Transformers Power of the Primes Inferno found at US Retail

I'm still holding out hope for a G2 Defensor. Inferno doesn't look enough like G2 Hot Spot in any mode to work as a good stand-in.

Bounti76 wrote:I'm still holding out hope for a G2 Defensor. Inferno doesn't look enough like G2 Hot Spot in any mode to work as a good stand-in.

You still holding out hope for Takara's Liokaiser as well?

william-james88 wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I'm still holding out hope for a G2 Defensor. Inferno doesn't look enough like G2 Hot Spot in any mode to work as a good stand-in.

You still holding out hope for Takara's Liokaiser as well?

Actually, no. I've never been big at all into Japanese G1 (save for their having had Minerva), so I'm happy with Hasbro's.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We should keep an eye on Jazz and his subliminal messaging

Make Autobots Great Again? What's so wrong with that?

I'd take that over Decepticons Aren't Really Killers?

bacem wrote:i just hope all those money saved goes to the right direction.

I know all the money I've saved has been going in the right direction. Bought a completely new bed (mattress, frame, bedding, the works) and a carpet cleaner.

Emerje

bacem wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder how much takara are saving by going this route, this may have been initiated by hasbro (conspiracy to increase domestic sales) but this route may work out beneficial to Takara. Also if it means the west are getting the same masterpieces, that's good news isn't it?

i imagine a lot, really. in previous cases, they have different deco and boxes than hasbro, so they just imported the unpainted mold from hasbro, and then repaint it themself, and then print their own packaging. in this new case, not only does there's no need to repaint the figures, if you pay attention, the japanese name on the packaging is just stickers, that just slapped over hasbro's packaging to cover hasbro logo. means they literally just imported hasbro product as is and slapped stickers on the box. the cost of paints and packagings are now replaced by cost for small stickers only. that should save a lot, really. i just hope all those money saved goes to the right direction.

Bro' Same China/Vietnam factories Nothing imported from Hb. Just different job orders. . At least back then. Now we have the unified product roll out.(six month delay for the JP market)

As for the costs going down, the reports that Takara/Tomy having financial troubles might just be one of the reasons why they caved so fast and went for the unification business model.

The other reason is that the JPs aren't making too many kids for their kids toylines. Only manchildren are the ones buying

fenrir72 wrote:

bacem wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder how much takara are saving by going this route, this may have been initiated by hasbro (conspiracy to increase domestic sales) but this route may work out beneficial to Takara. Also if it means the west are getting the same masterpieces, that's good news isn't it?

i imagine a lot, really. in previous cases, they have different deco and boxes than hasbro, so they just imported the unpainted mold from hasbro, and then repaint it themself, and then print their own packaging. in this new case, not only does there's no need to repaint the figures, if you pay attention, the japanese name on the packaging is just stickers, that just slapped over hasbro's packaging to cover hasbro logo. means they literally just imported hasbro product as is and slapped stickers on the box. the cost of paints and packagings are now replaced by cost for small stickers only. that should save a lot, really. i just hope all those money saved goes to the right direction.

Bro' Same China/Vietnam factories Nothing imported from Hb. Just different job orders. . At least back then. Now we have the unified product roll out.(six month delay for the JP market)

As for the costs going down, the reports that Takara/Tomy having financial troubles might just be one of the reasons why they caved so fast and went for the unification business model.

The other reason is that the JPs aren't making too many kids for their kids toylines. Only manchildren are the ones buying

Well that's a problem only the Japanese can solve (maybe they should let a few more immigrants in if the locals aren't reproducing)

Anyways...I'm quite taken by this inferno, I do have fun with the hotspot mold. If he makes his way to the UK I may pick him up.

PSA: I just noticed my Power of the Primes Jazz is BROKEN. It's those pointy bits behind his shoulders, one is snapped off and the other has a crack and is clearly not going to hold up much longer. He's been in a box with other Transformers so maybe the weight was part of it, but the constant pegging and unpegging of transformation is clearly exerting a lot of stress on those parts as well... the side that's not already snapped bends worryingly when I transform him now.

Take care with yours! Maybe shave down those pegs so they don't lock in as securely; that way there'll be less stress and they hopefully won't be as likely to snap? (I knew it was never a good idea to make such vast expanses of the toy out of clear plastic...)

Qwan wrote:PSA: I just noticed my Power of the Primes Jazz is BROKEN. It's those pointy bits behind his shoulders, one is snapped off and the other has a crack and is clearly not going to hold up much longer. He's been in a box with other Transformers so maybe the weight was part of it, but the constant pegging and unpegging of transformation is clearly exerting a lot of stress on those parts as well... the side that's not already snapped bends worryingly when I transform him now.

Take care with yours! Maybe shave down those pegs so they don't lock in as securely; that way there'll be less stress and they hopefully won't be as likely to snap? (I knew it was never a good idea to make such vast expanses of the toy out of clear plastic...)

Owch, sorry to hear it.

william-james88 wrote:It seems like the gods answered the US fans' laments of not finding anything new at retail and dropped the very last wave of Power of the Primes Voyagers on us before half the year is over. This is great news to anyone looking for Power of the Primes Inferno. Though it means the wait for the next Generations voyagers will be longer (we don't even know what that will be yet). Inferno was found at Target in Modesto California (largest city of Stanislaus County) by TF fan Eddy.

If you find this toy please let the community know through our sightings forum and sightings page.

Modesto, CA has a much bigger claim to fame than being the largest city in Stanislaus County. It is the birthplace of George Lucas!

And yet the only wave 2 stuff ive found was the Voyagers at my local comic shop three months ago.

Seriously, what the frig is the problem getting them here?!

Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Same here, I've decided I'm not getting the Terrorcons, so at this point I'm just twiddling my thumbs until Optimal Optimus becomes available. The only things from wave 2 I still want are Snarl and Elita-1, though I may just hold on and get them at TFNation in August.

So where is "Disco" Inferno...?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

I already have Pyra Magna but I am tempted. Rescue Vehicles are my weakness (along with french fries!)

WreckerJack wrote:I already have Pyra Magna but I am tempted. Rescue Vehicles are my weakness (along with french fries!)

The saltier the better

I'm tempted too to be honest, because I have a soft spot for Hot Spot... That just sounds odd. Plus, I got a repurpose idea thanks to a Korean KO animation. You all know which one.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I already have Pyra Magna but I am tempted. Rescue Vehicles are my weakness (along with french fries!)

The saltier the better

I'm tempted too to be honest, because I have a soft spot for Hot Spot... That just sounds odd. Plus, I got a repurpose idea thanks to a Korean KO animation. You all know which one.

I am not farmiliar with him as a character, but he looks like a friendly sort. Looks like he was in the IDW comics breifly but also featured in some of the old Marvel comics. I know he was in G1 but I don't recall the episode too much. I'll re-watch it one of these days though, maybe once I am done catching up on the Wrecker's series. (Which I hope to finish this weekend so I can read Requiem as soon as possible.)

Emerje wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

That mold is dull ugly trash too. Looks like one of those cruddy KO toys found in cheap stores.

It reminds me of when classics first launched, what the goal was, to update the characters for the 21st century, keeping them recognisable.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

That mold is dull ugly trash too. Looks like one of those cruddy KO toys found in cheap stores.

Try the JP versions of those molds. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different. I guarantee it!

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

That mold is dull ugly trash too. Looks like one of those cruddy KO toys found in cheap stores.

I can understand someone not liking the mold (it is quite a departure from Inferno's usual look) but calling it on par with a KO is just silly. I'd argue with the partscount, paint apps and general care put into the figure it's less KOish than a lot of modern figures. Sure it's not MP-standards but it's still a good figure.

fenrir72 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

That mold is dull ugly trash too. Looks like one of those cruddy KO toys found in cheap stores.

Try the JP versions of those molds. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different. I guarantee it!

He might mean the shape, or design, or the physique of that mold, rather than the decos.

I think Universe Inferno looks awesome! Probably the most realistic firetruck we ever had. His robot mode looks good too. I don't see any flaws with it so I guess that the only issue would be maybe the plastic? I have never handled one so I can't say if the plastic feels thin/cheap or not.

I am actually thinking of tracking down one for myself. If anyone does own Inferno can you tell me what the plastic quality is like?

WreckerJack wrote:I am actually thinking of tracking down one for myself. If anyone does own Inferno can you tell me what the plastic quality is like?

Plastic quality is standard and the clear parts aren't structural so he's pretty solid. Plus he doesn't have massive open gaps in his arms and legs. He also has a pretty fun transformation. Plus, to Hasbro's credit, Grapple has a bunch of new molded parts in his arms, hands, feet, various panels, the crane, and of course the head. Sure, a ladder on Inferno would have looked better in truck mode, but it's obvious in bot mode why they couldn't.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kind of a boring repaint figure. Inferno/Grapple had such a unique look in G1 that it seems only the MP figures even bothered to do them justice.

Not a fan of the Universe mold? It's the best CHUG interpretation we'll probably ever get.



Emerje

That mold is dull ugly trash too. Looks like one of those cruddy KO toys found in cheap stores.

Try the JP versions of those molds. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different. I guarantee it!

He might mean the shape, or design, or the physique of that mold, rather than the decos.

The basic blue print that Takara invested in them years ago. When hollow was the exception and not the norm. When paint apps rarely melted off. When box packaging were sturdier stuff,

Times change as does the economy, though I don't understand what your point has to do with Carni possibly not liking how the mold looks (proportions, shape, not looking like G1 inferno)

I managed to find that Grapple last month in a little Geek shop and am super happy with him, he's lots of fun.

but I'm also glad I will have Inferno in a different mold than Grapple, make him a bit more unique. And he looks very IDW with that robot mode, so I'm fine with it. He may even get a team and combine some, but I'm not sure yet. I could give him Lost Lightatron's limbs, or the autobot limbs from the line and keep Elita her own person (and she is really good to me as her own person, she looks good with PotP Prime, TR Laser Prime, and Alpha Trion).

But I swear, if I find Inferno before the wave 2 deluxes or prime masters, I will celebrate and flip the flip out.

I've found Inferno at 2 Wal-Marts today, but I've yet to see wave 2 of the prime masters. Its frustrating and confusing.

DISCHARGE wrote:I've found Inferno at 2 Wal-Marts today, but I've yet to see wave 2 of the prime masters. Its frustrating and confusing.

Any pics? And did you get him?

I look forward to finding Inferno in stores only because that means I might actually find Grimlock, too. I've seen a whole two of them in stores since the line launched and the online prices are so stupid high.

Emerje

Went to Walmart tonight.







Please note, combiner feet are different than those on the box.

There is no longer a slot for the leg tab to slide through before it locks in for alt mode. You know have to bend the plastic out and over to get the tab in the hole.

Can't think of a good combo of limbs.
Not too many unused..

And finally a use for Wreck-Gar!

I want to use Groove..but that means harvesting Prime. And I.. can't... do that

kurthy wrote:

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There is no longer a slot for the leg tab to slide through before it locks in for alt mode. You know have to bend the plastic out and over to get the tab in the hole.

Interesting slight remold. hmm, maybe the alt mode will finally sit with all the wheels on the ground

Is Inferno being shipped with Grimlock? I just found 3 each of Grimlock and Inferno. Dated 80941 and 80951. I assume from the same cases.

hushed wrote:Is Inferno being shipped with Grimlock? I just found 3 each of Grimlock and Inferno. Dated 80941 and 80951. I assume from the same cases.

Yes, Grimlock is getting a second run in wave 3.

Emerje

Adam Pawlus, from Entertainment Earth has posted on twitter that Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz has a running change. Some Jazz figures coming out will no longer have MAGA written in Cybertronian letters. Instead, as can be seen in the photo below, also linked on Twitter, that part has simply been blackend to remove the writing. It will be hard for anyone to see this in the package and we by no means encourage tampering in the store to find out. This will probably be seen on the Jazz figures coming out in Wave 3 of Power of the Primes.

An easy fix it seems though I wonder if they ever dealt with it internally. Though let's keep the toys away from politics. The designer can do that on their own time.

william-james88 wrote:This will probably be seen on the Jazz figures coming out in Wave 3 of Power of the Primes.

Worth repeating. If you see a Jazz among the Terrorcons, it's likely the running change.

ZeroWolf wrote:An easy fix it seems though I wonder if they ever dealt with it internally. Though let's keep the toys away from politics. The designer can do that on their own time.

Yes, the designer responsible was freelance and his contract was terminated.

Really glad I got my Jazz from wave 1 with the MAGA tampo. Sad that its such a big deal it even needed to be changed. Now wheres my Optimus Primal?

"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Black Hat wrote:"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Trust me, someone will complain. It's inevitable even with the most obscure, thanks to the internet.