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Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs

Posted by william-james88 Apr 24, 2023 at 11:12pm CDT 55,123 views
Well, we had warned everyone thinking the Rise of the Beasts film was a full on reboot to temper their expectations since we never had a public confirmation using those words. After all, Hasbro and Paramount are not throwing out their Billion dollar universe away. However, the info we had provided was just an analysis on what was shown, not an actual confirmation, but we have one now, coming from the main producer of the movie no less.

In a lengthy interview with Collider, we see what the themes of the film are, which includes ethnic minorities facing adversity in the 90s and a character arc for Optimus Prime. And it's when discussing Optimus Prime's character arc that we get the confirmation (if anyone needed one):

"But what’s interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of Bumblebee, Optimus comes to Earth. What he’s experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He’s had to retreat, he’s leaving the planet Cybertron. What’s happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he’s a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he’s not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we’ve had this experience because we’ve watched it with audiences and we’ve heard them talk about it – they’re like, “It’s definitely Optimus, but there’s something a little different…” At first, they’re like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you’ve recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.”

And speaking of character arcs, here is what was said about the humans characters and their growth in the film:

"It’s hard to say that about Shia [LaBeouf] in the first movie; you know, he goes from being a young man, essentially, to a man, right? In this case, Anthony Ramos and Dominique [Fishback’s] characters are both characters who are trying to find their way in a life, and in a cultural society, that’s not making it the easiest for them. And so, the experience of the movie for those characters is to come to terms, not exactly about who they are, but how to move forward in their lives. It’s an interesting character arc for both of them where they fulfill, to a certain extent, the desire that they were having for themselves."

You can read the full interview between Collider and Lorenzo di Bonaventura here.

Also, in some serendipitous fate, a new poster was recently found for Rise of the Beasts, which references the first Bay film. Here it is below.

Transformers ROTB Confirmed to not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs
Transformers ROTB Confirmed to not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs

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Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by Bounti76 Apr 24, 2023
Get diBonaventura and Bay to be mostly or completely hands-off Transformers movies, and they might be great. As is, my expectations for this movie just got lowered pretty hard.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by Silver Wind Apr 25, 2023
Disappointing news, but not surprising. (Pretty much sums up the development of RotB to be honest.)

"It’s hard to say that about Shia [LaBeouf] in the first movie; you know, he goes from being a young man, essentially, to a man, right? [...]"

Sorry-but-not-sorry... :))
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by Big Grim Apr 25, 2023
di Bonaventura wrote:"And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you’ve recognized from the Bay movies.”

Murderous?

di Bonaventura wrote:"Emotional.”

Oh! EMOTIONAL! Right. Right.

william-james88 wrote:Also, in some serendipitous fate, a new poster was recently found for Rise of the Beasts, which references the first Bay film. Here is is below.

Um, not seeing it Bud.

~ Grim
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Apr 25, 2023
So, if that movie is not a reboot, does that means that we will get a TLK sequel at some point that would wrap all the loose ends?
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 25, 2023
Big Grim wrote:
di Bonaventura wrote:"And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you’ve recognized from the Bay movies.”

Murderous?

di Bonaventura wrote:"Emotional.”

Oh! EMOTIONAL! Right. Right.

william-james88 wrote:Also, in some serendipitous fate, a new poster was recently found for Rise of the Beasts, which references the first Bay film. Here is is below.

Um, not seeing it Bud.

~ Grim


Thanks for the heads up, fixed it
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee Apr 25, 2023
I suspect that ROTB, like Bumblebee, will have references to the Bay movies (which we already see in some of the designs, Bee looks a bit more like his 07 design and Prime has swords similar to his Bayverse ones), but the movie doesn’t actually work with the Bayverse timeline. I’m curious if they’ll have the Autobots (minus Bee) leave Earth at the end of the movie since they need to be off-world by the start of 07.

The Bayverse references were some of the only bits I really enjoyed from BB (Simmons, scanning the Camaro), so I’d be glad if we saw some more of those!
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by Dr. Caelus Apr 25, 2023
What he’s experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right?


Ugh. Because obviously he became the hyper-competent badass leader of the Autobots by being effortlessly perfect from the moment he came online. And clearly he had that whole civil war thing under control until they had to abandon their planet.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by morganprime Apr 25, 2023
How hard is it to make a movie about transforming robots that fight each other? No one is here for humans and their problems.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 25, 2023
griftimus prime wrote:like it matters


Seems to matter to a lot of people within the fan community who have been debating the issue since TLK bombed.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Apr 25, 2023
william-james88 wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:like it matters


Seems to matter to a lot of people within the fan community who have been debating the issue since TLK bombed.


TLK ended en queue de poisson.
There's lots of questions that needs to be answered.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by First-Aid Apr 25, 2023
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:like it matters


Seems to matter to a lot of people within the fan community who have been debating the issue since TLK bombed.


TLK ended en queue de poisson.
There's lots of questions that needs to be answered.


It's interesting how this is shaping up. I remember English class, how the definition of an "epic" is starting in the middle of things- "in medias res"- before having a flashback, then finishing the story later. I doubt this was intentional, but maybe.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee Apr 25, 2023
New character posters for ROTB with Bumblebee, Wheeljack, and Arcee!

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Bumblebee’s head design changed a bit from BB, no silver trim on the helmet, the yellow pieces under the eyes, missing a piece on the mouth section, and his ear pieces now sit lower, by his cheeks.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Apr 25, 2023
At least Arcee looks less like a creepy doll now. Not really getting the rage for the producer comments here, he said almost the exact thing before Bumblebee premiered.

Also for all those who want humanless transformers, don't forget we have the prequel to the prequel coming out next year
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by alphatron10 Apr 25, 2023
-Kanrabat- wrote:So, if that movie is not a reboot, does that means that we will get a TLK sequel at some point that would wrap all the loose ends?

Man, I would love that. I wish they would do a sequel to wrap it all up and then we wouldn't have to worry about anything about that universe anymore.
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by nwr_levi Apr 25, 2023
The wording here seems a little vague. Perhaps the new movies a retelling of the Bayverse? That or they are waiting to fully confirm the reboot after the movie fails or succeeds.
Still hyped tho! :D
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by Quantum Surge Apr 25, 2023
I like how everyone thought the Cybertron scenes immediately meant reboot despite the way these robots changed forms rather frequently (and probably moreso than the Aligned continuity), plus Sector 7, the Camaro, and the lack of Megatron meant it wasn't really going to be a reboot despite people's wishful thinking. :KREMZEEK:
Re: Transformers ROTB Confirmed to Not be a Reboot by Lead Producer + Focus on Character Arcs (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 25, 2023
Was there any fan out there still thinking Paramount would change Wheeljack's look like they did with Sonic? Well, Hasbro has revealed new character posters today for the film and that includes our first official look at Wheeljack. The new character posters for ROTB also include Bumblebee and Arcee. We thank fellow Seibertronian EvasionModeBumblebee for letting us know of these.

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