Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review!
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This is the one we've all been waiting for, folks! Seibertron.com member Dannshinigami informed us that TonTon Reviews of YouTube has finally published their video review of Transformers: SIEGE Deluxe Class Ironhide! By now, you probably know what to expect from TonTon's videos of these upcoming figures. We're treated to a step by step conversion of Ironhide from Cybertronian armored truck to robot and back again, as well as an overview of sculpting and paint detailing on the figure, accessory demonstration, basic articulation in robot mode, and of course size comparisons in both vehicle and robot modes. Indeed, the size comparison is exciting as it shows that, despite being a Deluxe Class figure, SIEGE Ironhide is TALL in robot mode. He stands head and shoulders above SIEGE Deluxe Prowl and is just under a head shorter than Studio Series 14 Voyager Ironhide. To top it off, TonTon also shows off one possible configuration for combining Deluxe Weaponizer Sixgun with Ironhide. Enjoy the video below!
Is this the Classics/Generations G1 Ironhide figure you've been waiting for? How well are Hasbro and Takara Tomy doing with the scaling in the War for Cybertron: SIEGE line so far? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
Is this the Classics/Generations G1 Ironhide figure you've been waiting for? How well are Hasbro and Takara Tomy doing with the scaling in the War for Cybertron: SIEGE line so far? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
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Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005863)
Posted by william-james88 on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:25am CST
Oh you know me, i think all characters should get their own mold and their own transformation. But in terms of redecos, i didnt find Sentinel too bad. He has his own mold in the movie verse, and in IDW he wasnt that big a presence so i think its fair. Plus the IDW comics made him look like his TR toy when he returned so he is more accurate to his comic look than Astrotrain is.
Posted by william-james88 on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:25am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Does Sentinel Prime really count as having his own TR figure since it was just an Astrotrain repaint? ...asking for a friend.
For sure, i dont see why not
Sentinel feels like a character who deserves his own mold, you know?
Oh you know me, i think all characters should get their own mold and their own transformation. But in terms of redecos, i didnt find Sentinel too bad. He has his own mold in the movie verse, and in IDW he wasnt that big a presence so i think its fair. Plus the IDW comics made him look like his TR toy when he returned so he is more accurate to his comic look than Astrotrain is.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005865)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:37am CST
Something I bought at Hobbytown; beyond that I don't remember.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:37am CST
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Caelus wrote:I think the Decepticon Air Patrol look good attached to Shockwave's platform.
Caelus, what stand is that that Shockwave is on. I need to get one of those.
Something I bought at Hobbytown; beyond that I don't remember.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005867)
Posted by Evil Eye on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:48am CST
Yeah, I really like TR Sentinel (thanks by the way Will!), he's a really fun toy and I like the way he looks. Personally I'd rather we got a better Astrotrain that turned into a proper steam locomotive.
Posted by Evil Eye on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:48am CST
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Does Sentinel Prime really count as having his own TR figure since it was just an Astrotrain repaint? ...asking for a friend.
For sure, i dont see why not
Sentinel feels like a character who deserves his own mold, you know?
Oh you know me, i think all characters should get their own mold and their own transformation. But in terms of redecos, i didnt find Sentinel too bad. He has his own mold in the movie verse, and in IDW he wasnt that big a presence so i think its fair. Plus the IDW comics made him look like his TR toy when he returned so he is more accurate to his comic look than Astrotrain is.
Yeah, I really like TR Sentinel (thanks by the way Will!), he's a really fun toy and I like the way he looks. Personally I'd rather we got a better Astrotrain that turned into a proper steam locomotive.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005868)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
Love how you can attach sixgun to the hammer
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
Love how you can attach sixgun to the hammer
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005869)
Posted by Flashwave on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:00pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:00pm CST
Ironhide makes me excited for Ratchet as well. Guess its time to think about retiring the Botcon 06 guys.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005870)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:03pm CST
But how did he do that?
I guess with friction.
With those four 5 mm ports behind his head I'm sure I can make a four-armed Transformers
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:03pm CST
Dannshinigami wrote:
Love how you can attach sixgun to the hammer
But how did he do that?
I guess with friction. With those four 5 mm ports behind his head I'm sure I can make a four-armed Transformers
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005871)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:06pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:06pm CST
Where did that come from lunatic?
Looking at Ironhide, give him a generic head and he'd look like good army builder fodder, sort of like what I wanted to do with Quake back in TR
Looking at Ironhide, give him a generic head and he'd look like good army builder fodder, sort of like what I wanted to do with Quake back in TR
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005875)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:34pm CST
(I already told in another thread that) I really badly want a four-armed Transformer
Nope, SIEGE Shocky is not doing it for me.
This version here a bit more than the official one but still not really.
TR Deluxe Repugnus is the closest I got so far of what I'd like to have.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:34pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Where did that come from lunatic?
(I already told in another thread that) I really badly want a four-armed Transformer
Nope, SIEGE Shocky is not doing it for me.
This version here a bit more than the official one but still not really.
TR Deluxe Repugnus is the closest I got so far of what I'd like to have.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005876)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:42pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:42pm CST
I'm fine with the hollow parts of Ironhide, if it was to increase his apparent bulk and stature as a Deluxe Class figure, relative to the likes of Sideswipe, Prowl, etc. It's not anything we haven't seen before, either. The hollowness of the forearms is at least on the "bottom" and not on the "insides" like on many other figures. The hollowness in the chest makes perfect sense, as that's where the head goes in vehicle mode, and it looks fine in robot mode, especially with the nice silver painted detailing in the cockpit. The hollow parts on the back aren't nearly as bad as some early photos made them out to be. There can only be so many Voyager slots in a year, and swapping out someone for Ironhide so that he could have some more mass to fill in some trivial gaps would mean pushing other characters that NEED that Voyager slot to be in scale further out into 2020 or 2021. Being a large Deluxe works for Ironhide, and he seems to scale just right, being a little shorter than Optimus Prime, but more than a head taller than the Deluxe Autobot cars. I can't wait to see how the Walgreens exclusive Ratchet turns out. I hope his helmet is white with a dark gray crest, like the cartoon model. That's all I ask, Hasbro!
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005877)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:55pm CST
I'm hoping the Ratchet figure comes with three alternate heads (it'll never happen, but I can dream
) that represent his cartoon, comic, and the red crest that has been associated with Ratchet more recently. More than likely though, it'll be the gray crest
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 12:55pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm fine with the hollow parts of Ironhide, if it was to increase his apparent bulk and stature as a Deluxe Class figure, relative to the likes of Sideswipe, Prowl, etc. It's not anything we haven't seen before, either. The hollowness of the forearms is at least on the "bottom" and not on the "insides" like on many other figures. The hollowness in the chest makes perfect sense, as that's where the head goes in vehicle mode, and it looks fine in robot mode, especially with the nice silver painted detailing in the cockpit. The hollow parts on the back aren't nearly as bad as some early photos made them out to be. There can only be so many Voyager slots in a year, and swapping out someone for Ironhide so that he could have some more mass to fill in some trivial gaps would mean pushing other characters that NEED that Voyager slot to be in scale further out into 2020 or 2021. Being a large Deluxe works for Ironhide, and he seems to scale just right, being a little shorter than Optimus Prime, but more than a head taller than the Deluxe Autobot cars. I can't wait to see how the Walgreens exclusive Ratchet turns out. I hope his helmet is white with a dark gray crest, like the cartoon model. That's all I ask, Hasbro!
I'm hoping the Ratchet figure comes with three alternate heads (it'll never happen, but I can dream
) that represent his cartoon, comic, and the red crest that has been associated with Ratchet more recently. More than likely though, it'll be the gray crest
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005878)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CST
@Lunatic I meant that gif of the four armed robot 
Aside from the attempt with transmetal 2 in beast wars, have we ever had a four armed tf?
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CST
@Lunatic I meant that gif of the four armed robot Aside from the attempt with transmetal 2 in beast wars, have we ever had a four armed tf?
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005879)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:04pm CST
By design? We actually have:
Transformers Robots In Disguise Bruticus Gallery
Mind you, original Beast Machines mold, he even has 3 faces, poor guy.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:04pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote::lol: @Lunatic I meant that gif of the four armed robot
Aside from the attempt with transmetal 2 in beast wars, have we ever had a four armed tf?
By design? We actually have:
Transformers Robots In Disguise Bruticus Gallery
Mind you, original Beast Machines mold, he even has 3 faces, poor guy.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005880)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CST
Thanks Jelze! I always forget about that toy for some reason...
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005882)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:14pm CST
Slightly off topic (move if in wrong post)
Cog flight mode
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:14pm CST
Slightly off topic (move if in wrong post)
Cog flight mode
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005884)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:20pm CST
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:20pm CST
Another angle
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005887)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CST
I like
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CST
I just wanted to post something with four arms and googled for itZeroWolf wrote::lol: @Lunatic I meant that gif of the four armed robot
You mean Optimus Minor?Aside from the attempt with transmetal 2 in beast wars, have we ever had a four armed tf?
Dannshinigami wrote:
I like
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005888)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:35pm CST
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:35pm CST
That is a flight mode I can dig. Lemme find a Cog now
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005890)
Posted by Cobotron on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:36pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:36pm CST
I'm just happy you can fold Ironhide's head down to get an approximation G1 derp mode!
I know. I'm the only one. Still happy about it.
@Dannshinigami - Flight mode is cool!
I know. I'm the only one. Still happy about it.
@Dannshinigami - Flight mode is cool!
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005892)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:38pm CST
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:38pm CST
Thanks 
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005895)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:48pm CST
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 20th, 2019 @ 1:48pm CST
Fortress minimus
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005905)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
But he'll be upside down.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm just happy you can fold Ironhide's head down to get an approximation G1 derp mode!
I know. I'm the only one. Still happy about it.
@Dannshinigami - Flight mode is cool!
But he'll be upside down.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005910)
Posted by Skritz on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CST
Posted by Skritz on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CST
Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005911)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST
I'm strongly reminded of a Thew quote from beatdown 4
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST
Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
I'm strongly reminded of a Thew quote from beatdown 4
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005913)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:30pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:30pm CST
Funny you should mention a Tank Optimus:
Transformers Robot Masters Reverse Convoy / Rebirth Megatron Gallery
Transformers Robot Masters Reverse Convoy / Rebirth Megatron Gallery
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005915)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:35pm CST
Hey, if it means we get Star Saber in a mainline, then count me in
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:35pm CST
Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
Hey, if it means we get Star Saber in a mainline, then count me in
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005917)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:39pm CST
The Prime fetish is pretty toxic to Transformers in general. It does make you wonder if anything like Beast Wars or the New Character World Building of the Unicron Trilogy could ever happen again?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 20th, 2019 @ 4:39pm CST
Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
The Prime fetish is pretty toxic to Transformers in general. It does make you wonder if anything like Beast Wars or the New Character World Building of the Unicron Trilogy could ever happen again?
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005921)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:01pm CST
Its a clear figure/display stand that's available on some sets (such as Gundam.)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:01pm CST
Caelus wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Caelus wrote:I think the Decepticon Air Patrol look good attached to Shockwave's platform.
Caelus, what stand is that that Shockwave is on. I need to get one of those.
Something I bought at Hobbytown; beyond that I don't remember.
Its a clear figure/display stand that's available on some sets (such as Gundam.)
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005923)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:02pm CST
And that is indeed a retooled Megatron.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:02pm CST
Skritz wrote:Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Funny you should mention a Tank Optimus:
Transformers Robot Masters Reverse Convoy / Rebirth Megatron Gallery
And that is indeed a retooled Megatron.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CST
OK. first thing first: that Cybertron Prime is exactly what I wanted from the Leader Prime! It looks amazing! And now I can comfortably pass on Magnus and the voyager Prime. Joy!
Second, I finally found the Micro and Battlemasters this weekend! Opened them up this afternoon after getting home from a wedding and I have to say, these are some fun little dudes. I somehow missed the fact that 3 of the 6 micros have waist swivels, which is cool! I've heard some bad things about both Bot teams, but they are both pretty good. I enjoy them! Battlemasters are good too, nice and chunky and the effects parts are a blast!
Second, I finally found the Micro and Battlemasters this weekend! Opened them up this afternoon after getting home from a wedding and I have to say, these are some fun little dudes. I somehow missed the fact that 3 of the 6 micros have waist swivels, which is cool! I've heard some bad things about both Bot teams, but they are both pretty good. I enjoy them! Battlemasters are good too, nice and chunky and the effects parts are a blast!
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005944)
Posted by Flashwave on January 20th, 2019 @ 6:24pm CST
While I get your concern, and share it to a degree, this is no different than eny other major toy line keeping its main heroes at the forefront. The difference is that in 99% of them is a 5" action figure and a playset or a vehicle. We are the oddball because pur Playsets and Vehicles ARE the Action Figures.
But Prime has more room thsn ypu think. Next year we could get an "Earth Mode" Leader version of Car Robots Prime; the fire engine uses the same engineering style as Siege Magnus and the toylune in general with add on armor, boots, gauntlets, etc. So there is 2020.
Then ypu have Star Convoy, who cpuld backpedal as Armada Optimus,
then you have Energon Prime, and I think Combiner Wars missed out on an opportunity to make transformong Trailer Armor, or an Armada Wing Saber that utilized the CW engineering.
The Star Saber idea is a sound one, even though most pf us would laugh at the Jet Optimus part.
And they said almost every year. Nothing says Hasbro can't pull a fast one and give us a Leader figure who interacts with their Optimus Prime. Maybe a retool of Star Saber as Jetfire in such a way that a Voyager Prime could wear the armor, speaking of Jet Optimus. We don't know what Hasbro has in store, never in a million years did anyone think we would get an Orion Pax evolution figure, so Hasbro cpuld do anything. Its their own rules to break
Posted by Flashwave on January 20th, 2019 @ 6:24pm CST
Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
While I get your concern, and share it to a degree, this is no different than eny other major toy line keeping its main heroes at the forefront. The difference is that in 99% of them is a 5" action figure and a playset or a vehicle. We are the oddball because pur Playsets and Vehicles ARE the Action Figures.
But Prime has more room thsn ypu think. Next year we could get an "Earth Mode" Leader version of Car Robots Prime; the fire engine uses the same engineering style as Siege Magnus and the toylune in general with add on armor, boots, gauntlets, etc. So there is 2020.
Then ypu have Star Convoy, who cpuld backpedal as Armada Optimus,
then you have Energon Prime, and I think Combiner Wars missed out on an opportunity to make transformong Trailer Armor, or an Armada Wing Saber that utilized the CW engineering.
The Star Saber idea is a sound one, even though most pf us would laugh at the Jet Optimus part.
And they said almost every year. Nothing says Hasbro can't pull a fast one and give us a Leader figure who interacts with their Optimus Prime. Maybe a retool of Star Saber as Jetfire in such a way that a Voyager Prime could wear the armor, speaking of Jet Optimus. We don't know what Hasbro has in store, never in a million years did anyone think we would get an Orion Pax evolution figure, so Hasbro cpuld do anything. Its their own rules to break
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 20th, 2019 @ 9:03pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 20th, 2019 @ 9:03pm CST
A lot of us have been speculating about a possible "booster pack" of weapon effects for the SIEGE line. They're pretty neat for customizing a battle scene, but a bit scarce right now as they only come with the Battle Master figures. Getting a bunch of different colors for the various laser, explosion, muzzleflash, sword slashing, etc. effects seems like a great idea, but what if Hasbro combined that with an actual weapons pack? I'm thinking something similar to the original Masters of the Universe line and the more recent "MOTU Classics" line, where we can get a selection of accessories in different colors to customize our figures. It would be a great way for Hasbro to put out some "cartoon" colored accessories for the siege figures, like a white shoulder missile launcher for Sideswipe, or a light blue gun for Ultra Magnus, or an orange axe for Optimus Prime. I think the combination of weapons and special effects parts together would make such a booster pack a hot seller for both collectors and kids alike.
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CST
It'd certainly help arm up the legends figures from the Prime Wars Trilogy. Plus, it'd be nice for them to cover older figures' accessories too because then the parts could be applied to older displays by virtue of just changing weapons out with new versions with compatible muzzles/attachment points
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:A lot of us have been speculating about a possible "booster pack" of weapon effects for the SIEGE line. They're pretty neat for customizing a battle scene, but a bit scarce right now as they only come with the Battle Master figures. Getting a bunch of different colors for the various laser, explosion, muzzleflash, sword slashing, etc. effects seems like a great idea, but what if Hasbro combined that with an actual weapons pack? I'm thinking something similar to the original Masters of the Universe line and the more recent "MOTU Classics" line, where we can get a selection of accessories in different colors to customize our figures. It would be a great way for Hasbro to put out some "cartoon" colored accessories for the siege figures, like a white shoulder missile launcher for Sideswipe, or a light blue gun for Ultra Magnus, or an orange axe for Optimus Prime. I think the combination of weapons and special effects parts together would make such a booster pack a hot seller for both collectors and kids alike.
It'd certainly help arm up the legends figures from the Prime Wars Trilogy. Plus, it'd be nice for them to cover older figures' accessories too because then the parts could be applied to older displays by virtue of just changing weapons out with new versions with compatible muzzles/attachment points
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005969)
Posted by Shredd the Dinobot on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:50am CST
This is exactly the next line I want them to do!
You know after there War for Cybertron trilogy is done...
I only have one edit
The Titans for there line would be new molds of Primes and Unicron, they sorely need new figures that aren't bogged down by gimmicks. They need new figures almost as much as the Thirteen.
Posted by Shredd the Dinobot on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:50am CST
Caelus wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.
Power of the Primes as in the 13 Original Transformers, as in Titan Master-style figures that act as super-deluxe Energon Stars that channel the power of said 13 Original Transformers.
The Prime Masters were lame.
Sadly that was the only way they were going to handle the 13 as its far easier then working with some of the designs of the 13...plus how they would break down in class sizings, for marketing they would need to assign factions...Not to mention they would still need recognisable characters in said toyline, taking away available size slots...basically it wasn't going to happen in a years toyline. They compromised with the Prime masters which let them homage the pretenders to boot. I mean how many of us thought that the pretenders would ever see the light of day again (outside of bot mode references)
Best bet for the original 13 is if hasbro plan a whole trilogy around them and then release 4 a year in Voyager and leader Class (or deluxe and voyager... More space in those slots)
I'm possible now, maybe, but not necessarily if they'd been running on the scale of Titans Return,
Nexus Prime would be a combiner, so he markets as four deluxes, a voyager, and maybe a scout too, spreading out size-classes. Amalgamous would be a leader to allow maximum alt-modes. Prima, Megatronus, Onyx, and Optimus would be Voyager class, Solus, Quintus, Maximo would be deluxe class. Micronus would get packed in with Amalgamous. Alpha Trion and Vector Prime could have been rereleased or retooled as store exclusives since they already have good molds. And you can double-dip on molds. Nexus Prime would have a box-set rereleased in blue and red. Megatronus would have a repaint as the Fallen. Optimus as Nemesis Prime. Then fill out the line with minor Primes or Prime-adjacent characters like Nova, Zeta, Sentinel, Rodimus, Primal, Thunderwing, and maybe new takes on Cybertron Evac, Scourge, and Overdrive, or homages to characters like Lio Convoy. The $5 class would be filled with Minions that become parts of primal relics like the Requiem Blaster.
This is exactly the next line I want them to do!
You know after there War for Cybertron trilogy is done... I only have one edit
The Titans for there line would be new molds of Primes and Unicron, they sorely need new figures that aren't bogged down by gimmicks. They need new figures almost as much as the Thirteen.
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Posted by Albatross250 on January 21st, 2019 @ 4:24am CST
I'd be surprised if this was on Siege (hope it aint exclusive). ESPECIALLY THE INSIGNIA AND HEAD GIMMICK PART. 
Posted by Albatross250 on January 21st, 2019 @ 4:24am CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:Skritz wrote:Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Funny you should mention a Tank Optimus:
Transformers Robot Masters Reverse Convoy / Rebirth Megatron Gallery
I'd be surprised if this was on Siege (hope it aint exclusive). ESPECIALLY THE INSIGNIA AND HEAD GIMMICK PART.
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Posted by Skritz on January 21st, 2019 @ 6:52am CST
No, we won't because Hasbro's current mandate is for an 'evergreen' line which only feature the iconic and marketable (reed: GEEWUN!) characters. The era of Transformers doing new things has died off after Animated and Prime, since the latter was a bit of a transitional era where they tried to do an Ultimate Marvel but ultimately the Aligned continuity imploded on itself, leading them to focus more neo-G1 even more.
Except more Optimus, more Bumblebee and (yuck) more Windblade. Forever.
Posted by Skritz on January 21st, 2019 @ 6:52am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
The Prime fetish is pretty toxic to Transformers in general. It does make you wonder if anything like Beast Wars or the New Character World Building of the Unicron Trilogy could ever happen again?
No, we won't because Hasbro's current mandate is for an 'evergreen' line which only feature the iconic and marketable (reed: GEEWUN!) characters. The era of Transformers doing new things has died off after Animated and Prime, since the latter was a bit of a transitional era where they tried to do an Ultimate Marvel but ultimately the Aligned continuity imploded on itself, leading them to focus more neo-G1 even more.
Except more Optimus, more Bumblebee and (yuck) more Windblade. Forever.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005978)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:36am CST
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:36am CST
Yay shockwave turned up today. Thanks to kapowtoys
Its a beautiful figure, the size for the price point is a bit annoying but im in love. Just not a fan of the 'leader kibble' stuff so its going to be in hover drone mode when he isnt in cruiser mode
Its a beautiful figure, the size for the price point is a bit annoying but im in love. Just not a fan of the 'leader kibble' stuff so its going to be in hover drone mode when he isnt in cruiser mode
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:56am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:56am CST
Skritz wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Skritz wrote:Gotta make you wonder: since they seem intent on having a Leader-class Optimus Prime in (almost) every line how long until they run out of Optimus design to homage? And then what, will they just remake the same designs over and over with variations or will this unlock the era of 'bonkers Optimus' where they just invent new ways to engineer that cash cow of a character.
At this rate we'll see 'Starblast Optimus Prime' as a pretool to a Star Saber in the mid 2020. Or a Megatron retooled into a tank Optimus. Or...well, you get the joke. Slap that iconic head and color scheme on anybody big and intimidating looking and you got a toy to fill a wave.
The Prime fetish is pretty toxic to Transformers in general. It does make you wonder if anything like Beast Wars or the New Character World Building of the Unicron Trilogy could ever happen again?
No, we won't because Hasbro's current mandate is for an 'evergreen' line which only feature the iconic and marketable (reed: GEEWUN!) characters. The era of Transformers doing new things has died off after Animated and Prime, since the latter was a bit of a transitional era where they tried to do an Ultimate Marvel but ultimately the Aligned continuity imploded on itself, leading them to focus more neo-G1 even more.
Except more Optimus, more Bumblebee and (yuck) more Windblade. Forever.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2005987)
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 21st, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
Had to pose him like this its only logical
Posted by Dannshinigami on January 21st, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
Had to pose him like this its only logical
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 21st, 2019 @ 10:07am CST
Dunno if counts as arms since they have no hands on the ends and they're the same as the bug mode but eh it's sorta four arms. Fun toy. A lot of articulation for a smallish figure.
That Ironhide looks alright. He's always had a pretty dull design overall but that's certainly one of the better toys (even if he does borrow somewhat from Kup in the chest area) and while the vehicle mode is very blocky it still looks a bit more 'cybertronian' than most of the other attemps in Siege (though could have hid those shoulders better. Still not my thing but it beats the hell out of previous versions of that character (such as the Classics figure with the horribly segmented vehicle mode, and the forgetteble Offroad retool Combiner Wars figure oh and of course the infamous crummy headless G1 toy).
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 21st, 2019 @ 10:07am CST
ZeroWolf wrote::lol: @Lunatic I meant that gif of the four armed robot
Aside from the attempt with transmetal 2 in beast wars, have we ever had a four armed tf?
Dunno if counts as arms since they have no hands on the ends and they're the same as the bug mode but eh it's sorta four arms. Fun toy. A lot of articulation for a smallish figure.
That Ironhide looks alright. He's always had a pretty dull design overall but that's certainly one of the better toys (even if he does borrow somewhat from Kup in the chest area) and while the vehicle mode is very blocky it still looks a bit more 'cybertronian' than most of the other attemps in Siege (though could have hid those shoulders better. Still not my thing but it beats the hell out of previous versions of that character (such as the Classics figure with the horribly segmented vehicle mode, and the forgetteble Offroad retool Combiner Wars figure oh and of course the infamous crummy headless G1 toy).
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Posted by Wheeljack84 on January 21st, 2019 @ 11:08am CST
Posted by Wheeljack84 on January 21st, 2019 @ 11:08am CST
I don't mind getting new Primes so often, but getting some brand new molds for someone like Wheeljack or Sunstreaker would be nice.
The Amazon Counterpunch/Punch was pretty cool at least.
If I have an issue with Siege, I wish they would've changed it up a little bit with the Decepticons a little more.
The Amazon Counterpunch/Punch was pretty cool at least.
If I have an issue with Siege, I wish they would've changed it up a little bit with the Decepticons a little more.
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Posted by EnergonStew on January 21st, 2019 @ 11:13am CST
Posted by EnergonStew on January 21st, 2019 @ 11:13am CST
I confused on what to get. Standard voyager or this crazy cybertron esque figure. Any thoughts?
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Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 12:05pm CST
This is something we have been advocating for since at least Energon had those Stars and weapons.
I dont see that being something the mainline retailers will want to support though, honestly.
After stuffing the FireDrive flames into the back of Shockwave's armor I really want a ton of those, so maybe Hasbro could do ot as an HTS or Web/Amazon exclusive.
Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 12:05pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:A lot of us have been speculating about a possible "booster pack" of weapon effects for the SIEGE line. They're pretty neat for customizing a battle scene, but a bit scarce right now as they only come with the Battle Master figures. Getting a bunch of different colors for the various laser, explosion, muzzleflash, sword slashing, etc. effects seems like a great idea, but what if Hasbro combined that with an actual weapons pack? I'm thinking something similar to the original Masters of the Universe line and the more recent "MOTU Classics" line, where we can get a selection of accessories in different colors to customize our figures. It would be a great way for Hasbro to put out some "cartoon" colored accessories for the siege figures, like a white shoulder missile launcher for Sideswipe, or a light blue gun for Ultra Magnus, or an orange axe for Optimus Prime. I think the combination of weapons and special effects parts together would make such a booster pack a hot seller for both collectors and kids alike.
This is something we have been advocating for since at least Energon had those Stars and weapons.
I dont see that being something the mainline retailers will want to support though, honestly.
After stuffing the FireDrive flames into the back of Shockwave's armor I really want a ton of those, so maybe Hasbro could do ot as an HTS or Web/Amazon exclusive.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2006022)
Posted by Patrickab7 on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:47pm CST
Posted by Patrickab7 on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:47pm CST
Have seen Sideswipe in the store a few times but have thus far delclined to buy one. Reason: Waiting for Red Alert since it'll basically be the same mold, plus I have a Sideswipe(RID version).
(notes that he has 6-7 different Starscreams)
(notes that he has 6-7 different Starscreams)
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Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
Same. L9oks like a very cool mold but I want my Sunstreaker or nada, so for now I stick with the Classics.
Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
Patrickab7 wrote:Have seen Sideswipe in the store a few times but have thus far delclined to buy one. Reason: Waiting for Red Alert since it'll basically be the same mold, plus I have a Sideswipe(RID version).
(notes that he has 6-7 different Starscreams)
Same. L9oks like a very cool mold but I want my Sunstreaker or nada, so for now I stick with the Classics.
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Posted by joevill on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:51pm CST
Posted by joevill on January 21st, 2019 @ 1:51pm CST
Neat! I really liked the original toy let's see how much more fun they can make it!
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Posted by william-james88 on January 21st, 2019 @ 2:16pm CST
I really hope thye dont give us a sunstreaker from this since they are supposed to be different molds. Sunstreaker from Siege sideswipe would be a real cheap move and simply another temporary solution to having a new Sunstreaker in a classics collection.
Posted by william-james88 on January 21st, 2019 @ 2:16pm CST
Flashwave wrote:Patrickab7 wrote:Have seen Sideswipe in the store a few times but have thus far delclined to buy one. Reason: Waiting for Red Alert since it'll basically be the same mold, plus I have a Sideswipe(RID version).
(notes that he has 6-7 different Starscreams)
Same. L9oks like a very cool mold but I want my Sunstreaker or nada, so for now I stick with the Classics.
I really hope thye dont give us a sunstreaker from this since they are supposed to be different molds. Sunstreaker from Siege sideswipe would be a real cheap move and simply another temporary solution to having a new Sunstreaker in a classics collection.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 21st, 2019 @ 2:48pm CST
They offer very different things so its all about what you want. If you want a G1 themed Prime in scale with a generations/classics collection, then the standard voyager is an excellent option.
Posted by william-james88 on January 21st, 2019 @ 2:48pm CST
EnergonStew wrote:I confused on what to get. Standard voyager or this crazy cybertron esque figure. Any thoughts?
They offer very different things so its all about what you want. If you want a G1 themed Prime in scale with a generations/classics collection, then the standard voyager is an excellent option.
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Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
Tough choice if you are only gettung one, and probably best to see more pocs of the CYB version before saying. That said, the Voyager is a fantastic toy all around that does neat Transforming tricks and has lots of playable 5mm ports, and even his own jetpack. So think very hard about turning this down. The Cybertron version will be a stockier Optimus Prime with a much more straight up, simpler Transformation and lots of add ons.
Posted by Flashwave on January 21st, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
I probably should be clearer when I say that. I would be fine with a different mold Siege SunStreaker, though we pretty much onow all the molds coming, I more mean that I want a comperable Sunstreaker in the same design style to go with this. Throwing Siwge Sideswipe with CW Sunstreaker just aint gonna cut it, and Siege Sideswipe with the Classics Streaker defeats the purpose.william-james88 wrote:Flashwave wrote:Patrickab7 wrote:Have seen Sideswipe in the store a few times but have thus far delclined to buy one. Reason: Waiting for Red Alert since it'll basically be the same mold, plus I have a Sideswipe(RID version).
(notes that he has 6-7 different Starscreams)
Same. L9oks like a very cool mold but I want my Sunstreaker or nada, so for now I stick with the Classics.
I really hope thye dont give us a sunstreaker from this since they are supposed to be different molds. Sunstreaker from Siege sideswipe would be a real cheap move and simply another temporary solution to having a new Sunstreaker in a classics collection.
EnergonStew wrote:I confused on what to get. Standard voyager or this crazy cybertron esque figure. Any thoughts?
Tough choice if you are only gettung one, and probably best to see more pocs of the CYB version before saying. That said, the Voyager is a fantastic toy all around that does neat Transforming tricks and has lots of playable 5mm ports, and even his own jetpack. So think very hard about turning this down. The Cybertron version will be a stockier Optimus Prime with a much more straight up, simpler Transformation and lots of add ons.
Re: Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Autobot Ironhide Video Review! (2006083)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:24pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:24pm CST
Does anybody remember way back in Combiner Wars when Hasbro put out a few special edition sticker sheets for the Aerialbots and Stunticons (I think)? If I recall, it was limited to the Asian market only. I'd like to see Hasbro do the same thing with SIEGE, but make it more available worldwide. Optional extra stickers would be fun, but I'd also like to see some made specifically to fill out missing paint apps on the figures. It would be helpful to add the silver/white and red details to Prowl's pelvis over the less than accurate yellow paint apps. Sideswipe could use a white triangle for his pelvis and white squares for his kneecaps. Most figures in the line could use a little touching up to add more (optional) G1 details, be they from the original toy or cartoon character models. Characters like Prowl and Red Alert also get saddled with Cybertronian writing on their alt modes as opposed to the traditional "Police" or "Fire Chief, respectively. A set of new stickers could give us the option to cover up the Cybertronian glyphs with Roman letters to make more "Earth-based" looks for them.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:40pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 21st, 2019 @ 7:40pm CST
But wouldn't that go against the theme of the line, which is pre-Earth, the beginning of the war? It wouldn't make sense for them to have English in them if they have yet to go to Earth. I'm saying this just about the writing, stickers for the knees and crotches would be fine. They're much needed, actually, as I think both Sideswipe and Prowl are kinda bland.
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