Two Different English Versions of Transformers: The Last Knight Out in Cinema Right Now

Not sure if this is one or not, but I remember the scene where Cogman breaks Crosshairs' finger, just before it Crosshairs says "What's with this little C-3PO knock-off?", which is different from his line in the trailers "I'll squash this little cockroach for you Cade." Did anyone hear the "squash this little cockroach" line when they saw the film? Or is it the "C-3PO knock-off" line for everyone?

Nexus Knight wrote:TFwiki has actually started making a list of differences.

Thanks! It super odd how they reffer to one as "finished" while it misses some lines that help the story, like explaining where Optimus is during the end battle.

Now I can't even know if my bitching about the movie makes sense to you guys since it turns out its the "unfinished" version I watched. I found it super odd and very amateurish of Michael Bay to have a shot of Sqweeks with his arm changing from that massive arm to his previous unbroken one from shot to shot. But now I am realizing that might be something none of you saw in the finished version.
This is super odd.

I head c3po line but didn't hear Mohawk variant line all I hear is I know where I live all I heard him say

I heard the C3PO line. Missed the Nitro line, I was too busy looking at him and his Shockwave head to fully understand what he said. But it explains why the guy gave him the finger after. Squeeks was also consistent with which arm he had, after it got replaced with the Decepticon one.


Looking at those differences, I was going to say I saw the finished one (Crosshairs tells Bee to grow up), but then I read about the missing line wondering where Prime was at the end. In my viewing, Lennox and Cade ask where Prime is and the other says "He didn't make it. He's gone down." or something to that affect. It was definetly addressed.




I have a question. If the TRF knew Cade had a thing we were looking for, why did they team up with the Decepticons to go after them? It's not like they had to go hunting for him, they knew where he was as they gave his position to Megatron. Surely it would have made more sense to send Lennox out there to talk to Cade, since Lennox has history with the AUtobots, he's met Cade and turning up with a couple of people just to talk would be a lot more reasonable to get what you want rather than turning up with a small squad of the guys who tried to destroy the planet a few times. And who would clearly just try to kill the lot of them. If it was Cemetery Wind, I could understand him hoping they would at least off a few of each other. But I don't understand why Lennox and Morshower went straight to the team up with Megatron idea.


I have many more questions, but I don't want to bombard the thread.


And does anyone else think Cogman being a headmaster was a twelth hour addition? He does nothing remotely like it in the film, and the only reference was a quick comment from Hopkins, off screen, while other dialogue was also going on. I get the impression Cogman was not meant to be a headmaster.

All I can say about Transformers: The Last Knight is that it was a LOT better than Age of Extinction and I can't emphasize that enough.

Although I wish the Dinobots had more screen time and a Grimlock that can talk. Well, at least Cade said his name.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Why do people still refer to Mark Wahlberg as "Marky Mark?" Do these people think it's still 1991?

Because thats what they first knew him as. Just like I still call Dwayne Johnson "The Rock".

But he still uses "The Rock" name, especially when he makes an appearance in WWE.

"Marky Mark" was a persona that Wahlberg put to bed full-time years ago. He's moved on. When people use it these days it comes across with a derogatory/insulting tone.

I would also like to point out certain people simply like saying things. I know that's why the two people whom spawned me say it.

Just got back from seeing the movie, and I loved it. One of my favorites of the series, I'd say certainly better than ROTF and AOE. Anyways, likes and dislikes!
Things I liked:
- Bumblebee's voice! He sounds younger than he did in the first movie, but it still sounds similar.
- Cogman (though interestingly not a headmaster. I thought for sure we would've seen it after Bee blasts Nitro's head off (like the toy), but nope. Probably in an earlier draft.)
- Romantic subplot takes up much less screen time than it has in previous films, thank goodness.
- WWII Scene. It didn't need to be there, but I liked it.
- Steve Jablonsky's score was great as always, loved the hints of older tracks like arrival to earth, and some others like when we first see Bee and when Optimus fights the combined infernocus.
- We didn't lose any Autobots in this one, so we'll get to see more from these characters in the future.
- A bunch of scenes in particular, including;
- Megatron and Starscream's head (even though there's a problem with it)
- Every scene with Bumblebee in it, especially the scenes towards the end of the movie, like when
he kills Nitro.)
- Optimus taking out Infernocus

Things I didn't like:
- We get no explanation for how Bumblebee can put himself back together. It's apparently a new ability, otherwise he should've been able to put his legs back on in TF1.
- How is Starscream's head in one piece? it got blasted to slag last I remember.
- Topspin has Leadfoot's head, which is either an error or an unexplained headmaster thing.
- The decepticons weren't really scary, they were just (with the exception of Barricade and Megs) obnoxious. I was totally ok with them getting killed off.
- No Bumblebee v. Barricade rematch

Like I said, a few problems, but overall I very much enjoyed it. Bring on the next one, Paramount!

william-james88 wrote:
About the leadfoot head, while it was odd, I didnt mind it and here is why: The Bayverse has made it clear that Transformers can have facial hair. We know some bots are older and some are younger and they share some similar traits to humans (usually for the sake of a joke) and I always felt the facial hair was one of those. So, since Topspin is in cuba, I thought they made the joke that he decided to relax and grow a beard. Either as a joke on castro, who is famous for a beard, or that of a guy who is in protection (like Denzel in Safe House), or just not needing to keep appearance anymore like David Letterman after retiring. Far fetched maybe, but it seems in line with the rest of the films.

Yeah, I suppose so. He did lose his mullet from DOTM though, maybe he got the look as a tribute to Leadfoot. Also, TFWiki says Roadbuster showed up in cuba with Topspin. I don't remember seeing that, can anyone verify that he was there?

Deadput wrote:

Insurgent wrote:
And does anyone else think Cogman being a headmaster was a twelth hour addition? He does nothing remotely like it in the film, and the only reference was a quick comment from Hopkins, off screen, while other dialogue was also going on. I get the impression Cogman was not meant to be a headmaster.

Uhhh it wasn't a "late" edition at all it was cut from the movie first of all Bay's been talking about in his early interviews for the movie so it wasn't something made up at the last minute.

They filmed those scenes back in 2016 before the cgi stuff was finished they had plenty of time to put it in and it actually sounds like it was a last month change to not put his headmaster stuff in the film because Bay talked about how they couldn't finish it in time around a week before the movie came out.

Also both his and Nitro's toys were being designed presumably in 2016 because they don't engineer toys in a couple months.

I don't listen to interviews or features or anything before a movie comes out. I hate how esy it is to learn everything bout a movie before ut comes out these days. So first i knew he was a headmaster was the toy reveal a few weeks ago. I thought Hasbro did the toy to do some cross line play and the movie only found out late, hence the info is given off screen and under other dialogue. It seemed like it was put in last minute.there is precedent for toys doing something tht the show runners didn't know (lugnuts mace in animated not showing up until season 2 for example)


@will exactly. Sending random army guy i can understand not wanting to do, but Lennox knows them! They know how bad Megatron is. It seemed like they just wanted a suicide squad moment.


Oh, and unicrons spikes are floating on the earth surface. They can't go under the surface or they wouldn't have moved with pangea.

But it doesn't matter because earth is dead. A chunk of moon is missing. Some of the earth surface is missing. Our core cooled a bit. Oh, and there's a planet on our planet. No way humanity is surviving that fallout.

Well thanks to my wife, and some rearranging of my personal schedule we were able to see this late yesterday afternoon.…where do I begin? I’m just not sure even how to react to this film, is it the worst thing ever? I don’t think so…is it a good story? No, not at all. Some things I enjoyed…Dragonstorm looked cool for what little time he was onscreen, same with Infernocus. Cogman oddly enough was probably the most enjoyable new character in the whole film, although, as was referred to one time, he never showed off his ability as a Headmaster onscreen.

Now there are literally dozens of nitpicks, and some very big problems I could point out for this film, but this does not stem from any hatred of Michael Bay, or *lazy writers*, or poor acting, it stems from my enjoyment of Transformers in general. You see I have been a Transformers fan since day 1 (May 1984). The first film in 2007 I genuinely enjoyed, I saw it in the theater 4 times. Many people say each sequel has gotten worse, where I tend to see an up-and-down effect, but TLK is definitely on the downward side of things. Here we are five films in, and continuity has basically been thrown out the window. Some fans may feel that occurred long ago, but for me at least, I could, in my own head, make sense of all of it up until now. There were just too many things that happened in this film that made no sense. I’ll just try to list a few of them…

1. If Sir Edmund Burton (Anthony Hopkins) was the last of the last surviving member of the "Witwiccan" order, what happened to Sam and his father?
2. There was literally no explanation as to how Megatorn came to be in his present form (previously was reborn as Galvatron manufactured by KSI) * one fan online says there was a line of dialogue providing a vague reference but I did not hear it
3. This *may* have been the first Transformers film with no significant Autobot deaths (a couple of generics and knights die, but none of the main characters)
4. Unfortunately aside form Megatron and Barricade, the rest of the Decepticons have very little character development, a few have a funny little shtick, then are quickly dispensed with.
5. Quintessa looks nothing like the organic “creators” as seen at the beginning of AoE
6. In reality I know this is just a case of lack of forward thinking, but one wonders…If Quintessa had always been around why did she not prevent the destruction of Cybertron in the first place? What would be her relationship to characters such as The Fallen, Sentinel Prime etc… Also if, The Fallen was a worshipper of Unicron, it’s likely he would have known Earth was Unicron in dormant form, why would he have tried to destroy it?

I have many more questions, but basically my takeaway is…I see a lot of hate for the franchise in general at this point, from fans and non-fans alike. I’ll admit, I don’t really like where its headed, all the news we heard about a collaboration and a room full of writings outlining a whole “Hasbro” shared universe wasn’t really set up. I’m not sure if further Transformers sequels, or spin-offs as well as MASK, GI Joe, ROM, Action Man etc… will all translate well on film. Honestly, I don’t even like how it’s being handled in the IDW comics. I hear fans calling for a *reboot* to make it more like the original animated series, and I honestly don’t think that’s the answer. I think the franchise just needs to go away from the silver screen for a while. Jurassic park took a 15 year hiatus after the lukewarm reception of the 3rd film, And came back in a blaze of glory (if you don’t agree critically, you can’t argue financially). I think Transformers should do the same. The only part about this that saddens me is that staples of the characters such as Peter Cullen and Frank Welker aren’t getting any younger. I would rather continue to hear them lend their talents to the characters in animated form, but that’s just me. I still think that Hasbro should look to Warner /DC as an example. They have been producing 3 animated films per year for the past decade that for the most part are quite enjoyable. Transformers has a 30+ history from numerous comic book series, and animated series to draw from, investing in direct-to-home lower budget animated films would be a great direction to go in IMHO.

As it stands now my personal series ranking is:

1.TF
2.AoE
3.RotF
4.DotM
5.TLK