Video Review: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Swindle
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Until we see the instructions, we wont know what the proper way to transform it is. Maybe its this way. Looks better to me, I look forward to knowing if takara fixes it or if there is a fix or some way to make it more stable.
If this is true, then it is further evidence that we wont be getting any good technobots. Both Liokaiser and Computron share a very similar looking drill vehicle limb. They could have done a new drill mold and recoloured it for each combiner. I wouldnt have minded that since both are pretty much a very similar alt mode. But now its just all Tanks? So then there is even less reason for there to be a decent nosecone mold out there. Its all disappointing on many levels.
Comment by william-james88
Nov 20, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl![]()

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Oh for goodness sakes, before we even try to do a Liokaiser, can we at least get proper technobots? And why hasbro would release a japanese only show combiner I have no clue. If it looks good that'd be nice, but some of these choices just don't sound right, and all things considered, I'd hope they would not do him and instead wait.
If this is true, then it is further evidence that we wont be getting any good technobots. Both Liokaiser and Computron share a very similar looking drill vehicle limb. They could have done a new drill mold and recoloured it for each combiner. I wouldnt have minded that since both are pretty much a very similar alt mode. But now its just all Tanks? So then there is even less reason for there to be a decent nosecone mold out there. Its all disappointing on many levels.
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Comment by Shuttershock
Nov 20, 2015
Scrap, man! Swindle got swole!
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Sky Lynx looks nothing like Deathsaurus. And maybe the Griffin was a drone. So what? G1 Fort Max was basically a drone piloted by Cerebros, who himself was piloted by someone else. Inception!
Comment by Genericon #378
Nov 20, 2015
steals_your_goats wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:I really hope they don't do this to Liokaiser. Where's Jallguar from Swindle? A new Leozack mold? And the Sky Lynx mold only has one repaint possibility that will look at least a little good: Big Purple Griffen. For shame, Hasbro.
I addressed the Jallguar thing above so I won't talk about that again but honestly the Griffin never made sense to me. First of all skylynx looks NOTHING like the griffin, they would have to do quite a bit of remolding for that to work. Also he's not really a character. If I remember right he's just a drone with no name and was in 1 maybe 2 episodes of the show and that's it. At least Deathsaurus' dragon mode, while not perfect, looks a bit like skylynx. There's no perfect solution to this by any means.
Sky Lynx looks nothing like Deathsaurus. And maybe the Griffin was a drone. So what? G1 Fort Max was basically a drone piloted by Cerebros, who himself was piloted by someone else. Inception!
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If you watch optibotimus' second video, you'll see that the 'proper way' has paint on it, and the method in the photo will reveal copyright info - or something of the like - on the toy; don't get me wrong, I want this fixed more than you do, but I just don't really see that happening. I mean, how many variants of blitzwing did we get? 5 I think; None of them were fixed and that was as blatant an issue as brawls is.
Comment by Hellscream9999
Nov 20, 2015
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl![]()
Until we see the instructions, we wont know what the proper way to transform it is. Maybe its this way. Looks better to me, I look forward to knowing if takara fixes it or if there is a fix or some way to make it more stable.
If you watch optibotimus' second video, you'll see that the 'proper way' has paint on it, and the method in the photo will reveal copyright info - or something of the like - on the toy; don't get me wrong, I want this fixed more than you do, but I just don't really see that happening. I mean, how many variants of blitzwing did we get? 5 I think; None of them were fixed and that was as blatant an issue as brawls is.
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Still, both would make for a killer
torso and I cannot wait to hear if I can snag it seperately
Comment by Hellscream9999
Nov 20, 2015
Genericon #378 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:I really hope they don't do this to Liokaiser. Where's Jallguar from Swindle? A new Leozack mold? And the Sky Lynx mold only has one repaint possibility that will look at least a little good: Big Purple Griffen. For shame, Hasbro.
I addressed the Jallguar thing above so I won't talk about that again but honestly the Griffin never made sense to me. First of all skylynx looks NOTHING like the griffin, they would have to do quite a bit of remolding for that to work. Also he's not really a character. If I remember right he's just a drone with no name and was in 1 maybe 2 episodes of the show and that's it. At least Deathsaurus' dragon mode, while not perfect, looks a bit like skylynx. There's no perfect solution to this by any means.
Sky Lynx looks nothing like Deathsaurus. And maybe the Griffin was a drone. So what? G1 Fort Max was basically a drone piloted by Cerebros, who himself was piloted by someone else. Inception!
Still, both would make for a killer


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Maybe that's the mistake. They put the trademark info on the wrong side.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Nov 20, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl![]()
Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?
Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...
Maybe that's the mistake. They put the trademark info on the wrong side.
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I kind of want the Griffin, if only so the combiner can be called "Purple Reign".
Comment by Shuttershock
Nov 20, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:I really hope they don't do this to Liokaiser. Where's Jallguar from Swindle? A new Leozack mold? And the Sky Lynx mold only has one repaint possibility that will look at least a little good: Big Purple Griffen. For shame, Hasbro.
I addressed the Jallguar thing above so I won't talk about that again but honestly the Griffin never made sense to me. First of all skylynx looks NOTHING like the griffin, they would have to do quite a bit of remolding for that to work. Also he's not really a character. If I remember right he's just a drone with no name and was in 1 maybe 2 episodes of the show and that's it. At least Deathsaurus' dragon mode, while not perfect, looks a bit like skylynx. There's no perfect solution to this by any means.
Sky Lynx looks nothing like Deathsaurus. And maybe the Griffin was a drone. So what? G1 Fort Max was basically a drone piloted by Cerebros, who himself was piloted by someone else. Inception!
Still, both would make for a killertorso and I cannot wait to hear if I can snag it seperately
I kind of want the Griffin, if only so the combiner can be called "Purple Reign".

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All too many have dreamed of doing that
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Nov 20, 2015
Agamemnon wrote:I loved the review when he popped Swindle's head off. How many Transformers have wished to do exactly that?
All too many have dreamed of doing that


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The backpacks alone are worthy of praise. Both molds handled that amazingly
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Nov 20, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:munkimus prime wrote:Onslaught looks really nice. The Torso Transformation is pretty cool how it does the opposite of Hotspot where the back pack goes over the head instead.
Both backpacks were so incredibly involved, they may have put more effort into those two parts alone than all of motormaster
The backpacks alone are worthy of praise. Both molds handled that amazingly

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But they also put the painted detail on the other side though, indicating that should be the correct way. instead with this way the paint detail is tucked up under the body
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Nov 20, 2015
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl![]()
Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?
Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...
Maybe that's the mistake. They put the trademark info on the wrong side.
But they also put the painted detail on the other side though, indicating that should be the correct way. instead with this way the paint detail is tucked up under the body

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I did and all I saw was a guy repeating what he said the first time. This past week I have written not one but 2 articles which were about correcting an oversight from multiple reviewers. Hotspot's knees and Magnus' gun holding also had people claiming there was a flaw present when it wasnt as bad as they thought. I am not saying Optibotimus was wrong, but I wont fault anything until I have it in my hands and can see it for myself along with the instructions. I have been amazed at what the tf community as a collective could find in terms of fixes. And while Takara rarely makes this big a change to a mold, if it is indeed this bad, the jury is not yet out of how they will handle Brawl.
Comment by william-james88
Nov 20, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:
If you watch optibotimus' second video, you'll see that the 'proper way' has paint on it, and the method in the photo will reveal copyright info - or something of the like - on the toy; don't get me wrong, I want this fixed more than you do, but I just don't really see that happening. I mean, how many variants of blitzwing did we get? 5 I think; None of them were fixed and that was as blatant an issue as brawls is.
I did and all I saw was a guy repeating what he said the first time. This past week I have written not one but 2 articles which were about correcting an oversight from multiple reviewers. Hotspot's knees and Magnus' gun holding also had people claiming there was a flaw present when it wasnt as bad as they thought. I am not saying Optibotimus was wrong, but I wont fault anything until I have it in my hands and can see it for myself along with the instructions. I have been amazed at what the tf community as a collective could find in terms of fixes. And while Takara rarely makes this big a change to a mold, if it is indeed this bad, the jury is not yet out of how they will handle Brawl.
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Back on topic, dat Swindle shall be mine. I'll probably nab Brawl even with the back problems. Still not sure about the rest of the Combaticast though. Back off topic: I think the RID minicon invasion my have my pocket book held for ransom at this point.
Comment by no-one
Nov 20, 2015
I was wondering if someone was going to point this out. It seems just like yesterday when this thread hit 300 pages. I think the toy haul thread just hit 500 pages as well.Cobotron wrote:![]()
500 pages of Combiner Wars ramblings y'all!! Woot Woot!
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Back on topic, dat Swindle shall be mine. I'll probably nab Brawl even with the back problems. Still not sure about the rest of the Combaticast though. Back off topic: I think the RID minicon invasion my have my pocket book held for ransom at this point.
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Don't let them minis hold your wallet down! you know you want some of this! Especially Swindle. and Onslaught
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Nov 20, 2015
carytheone wrote:I was wondering if someone was going to point this out. It seems just like yesterday when this thread hit 300 pages. I think the toy haul thread just hit 500 pages as well.Cobotron wrote:![]()
500 pages of Combiner Wars ramblings y'all!! Woot Woot!
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Back on topic, dat Swindle shall be mine. I'll probably nab Brawl even with the back problems. Still not sure about the rest of the Combaticast though. Back off topic: I think the RID minicon invasion my have my pocket book held for ransom at this point.
Don't let them minis hold your wallet down! you know you want some of this! Especially Swindle. and Onslaught

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Yes
Comment by Hellscream9999
Nov 20, 2015
Shuttershock wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:I really hope they don't do this to Liokaiser. Where's Jallguar from Swindle? A new Leozack mold? And the Sky Lynx mold only has one repaint possibility that will look at least a little good: Big Purple Griffen. For shame, Hasbro.
I addressed the Jallguar thing above so I won't talk about that again but honestly the Griffin never made sense to me. First of all skylynx looks NOTHING like the griffin, they would have to do quite a bit of remolding for that to work. Also he's not really a character. If I remember right he's just a drone with no name and was in 1 maybe 2 episodes of the show and that's it. At least Deathsaurus' dragon mode, while not perfect, looks a bit like skylynx. There's no perfect solution to this by any means.
Sky Lynx looks nothing like Deathsaurus. And maybe the Griffin was a drone. So what? G1 Fort Max was basically a drone piloted by Cerebros, who himself was piloted by someone else. Inception!
Still, both would make for a killertorso and I cannot wait to hear if I can snag it seperately
I kind of want the Griffin, if only so the combiner can be called "Purple Reign".
Yes

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I'm on the fence about Onslaught. He was the only G1 Combaticon I had though. Something about him isn't doing it for me, but Bruticus looks totally boss. #thestruggle
Comment by no-one
Nov 20, 2015
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:! Especially Swindle. and Onslaught
I'm on the fence about Onslaught. He was the only G1 Combaticon I had though. Something about him isn't doing it for me, but Bruticus looks totally boss. #thestruggle
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Funny thing about Onslaught is: he (as Bruticus) has Visible head syndrome, but it is so cool! All you see of the head is the Bruticus mohawk, and it is an awesome feature sitting there in the middle of the turret. I think he would make a fine addition to the collection
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Nov 20, 2015
carytheone wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:! Especially Swindle. and Onslaught
I'm on the fence about Onslaught. He was the only G1 Combaticon I had though. Something about him isn't doing it for me, but Bruticus looks totally boss. #thestruggle
Funny thing about Onslaught is: he (as Bruticus) has Visible head syndrome, but it is so cool! All you see of the head is the Bruticus mohawk, and it is an awesome feature sitting there in the middle of the turret. I think he would make a fine addition to the collection

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No one's saying you have to ever un-combine them
Comment by Hellscream9999
Nov 20, 2015
carytheone wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:! Especially Swindle. and Onslaught
I'm on the fence about Onslaught. He was the only G1 Combaticon I had though. Something about him isn't doing it for me, but Bruticus looks totally boss. #thestruggle
No one's saying you have to ever un-combine them

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Comment by no-one
Nov 20, 2015
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Funny thing about Onslaught is: he (as Bruticus) has Visible head syndrome, but it is so cool! All you see of the head is the Bruticus mohawk, and it is an awesome feature sitting there in the middle of the turret. I think he would make a fine addition to the collection
I'm not convinced guys, try harderHellscream9999 wrote:No one's saying you have to ever un-combine them


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Because Defensor needs someone to fight, and since him and Bruticus were pretty much as close as you could get to mortal enemies and polar opposites. That's why.
Comment by Genericon #378
Nov 20, 2015
carytheone wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Funny thing about Onslaught is: he (as Bruticus) has Visible head syndrome, but it is so cool! All you see of the head is the Bruticus mohawk, and it is an awesome feature sitting there in the middle of the turret. I think he would make a fine addition to the collectionI'm not convinced guys, try harderHellscream9999 wrote:No one's saying you have to ever un-combine them.
Because Defensor needs someone to fight, and since him and Bruticus were pretty much as close as you could get to mortal enemies and polar opposites. That's why.
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Comment by padfoo
Nov 20, 2015
I love this Bruticus, just not in G2 colors.