New Avengers / Transformers #2 Preview

This is real good artwork!

I just think it's funny how loose roster for The Avengers is, I'm suprized BatMan isn't a member too at this point!

I take it that the bot between Skywarp and Blitzwing is the new character that IDW's pushing with this book and a forthcoming Spotlight. Did he get introduced in #1 or will this be the first appearance? I'm not generally that enthused with crossover titles, but since Chris Ryall's said that this fits into the main IDW continuity I guess I'll be giving it a look at some point.

waaaaghlord wrote:I take it that the bot between Skywarp and Blitzwing is the new character that IDW's pushing with this book and a forthcoming Spotlight. Did he get introduced in #1 or will this be the first appearance? I'm not generally that enthused with crossover titles, but since Chris Ryall's said that this fits into the main IDW continuity I guess I'll be giving it a look at some point.

He was not in #1. Any guesses as to who he is? The only problem I see with #2 right now is the cover. Prowl looks good but Wolverine looks really, really bad.

From the IDW boards I gather that he's a totally new character and will be playing an ongoing role in the IDWverse, beyond that no idea.

Awful cover. Why is the Blob wearing Wolverine's costume?

1337W422102 wrote:Awful cover. Why is the Blob wearing Wolverine's costume?

The Blob wants to feel some love?

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

Nothing in these previews is inspiring me to even think about purchasing this series. The cover art alone is a great reason to skip it.

Nice to have a new bot thrown in here and there though.

The body of the robot looks like Double Dealer... but with IDWs trade mark tinkering to make him look original. Which for the most part, they pull of. But there's something about the art I just don't like.

It's funny. I looked at the preview before reading the thread and wondered who that Decepticon was between Blitzwing and Skywarp.

Everyone else wondered the same thing I see.

The new guy looks more Cybertronian than the others like he hasnt an Earth mode yet. That's just my impression. I cant tell what his alt mode may be.

IDW loves them some Runabout and Runamuck.

I guess Im one of the few Stunticons fans.

MYoung23 wrote:IDW loves them some Runabout and Runamuck.

I guess Im one of the few Stunticons fans.

I'm confused by this statement. Do you think that the mucks are Stunticons or are you just pronouncing your love of the Stunticons

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

That Blob/M-Day statement is the coolest thing I heard all day!

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

That Blob/M-Day statement is the coolest thing I heard all day!

I read it, saw a pic, in one of the recent recaps in X-Men, Endangered Species maybe..?

X-Men all just runs together for me.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

That Blob/M-Day statement is the coolest thing I heard all day!

I read it, saw a pic, in one of the recent recaps in X-Men, Endangered Species maybe..?

X-Men all just runs together for me.

Dam, call me stupid, but I tough M-Day was something from a (real) war.

But on the note of Marvel, growing up, I'd only buy Marvel, now it ALL runs together for me. All their stories have the implication of consiquence, but nothing ever lasts long enough for the meaning to hit.

And once they started letting the movies dictate the art (Spider-Man back in his black suit now, hmm wonder why) I was just out.

I have very recently(like this weekend) started buying some new TF TPBs and I have to say, although they seemed rushed, they are really good. The only thing I got and realy didn't like was the Galvatron Spotlight. I don't like the change they made to him by seperating him from Megatron, and I kinda thought the tie-ins to the other stories out there right now(although maybe meaningful) took away from the rampage I was hoping for.

But otherwise, real good stuff!

out of a cast of hundreds, there should never be any need for a completely new warrior. high council members i can understand being created for a comic but whoever this new blue guy is, i am sure an existing transformer toy could have been used instead and not seem out of place.

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

That Blob/M-Day statement is the coolest thing I heard all day!

I read it, saw a pic, in one of the recent recaps in X-Men, Endangered Species maybe..?

X-Men all just runs together for me.

Dam, call me stupid, but I tough M-Day was something from a (real) war.

But on the note of Marvel, growing up, I'd only buy Marvel, now it ALL runs together for me. All their stories have the implication of consiquence, but nothing ever lasts long enough for the meaning to hit.

And once they started letting the movies dictate the art (Spider-Man back in his black suit now, hmm wonder why) I was just out.

I stopped buying Marvel back around the early 90s when Chris Claremont and Jim Lee left X-Men. The books were focusing too much on the art, and less on the story. At least with DC, even if the art was crappy, you were usually getting some decent writing.

skeletal13 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:

Hotrod wrote:The Blob wants to feel some love?

There's so much wrong with that sentence that I don't even know where to begin. Then again 'blob' as a coloquialism is probably just a Brit thing.

The Blob was an M-day victim, rolls of skin, hanging off a skinny body basically.

The mysterious bot kind of looks like Dreadwind to me.

That Blob/M-Day statement is the coolest thing I heard all day!

I read it, saw a pic, in one of the recent recaps in X-Men, Endangered Species maybe..?

X-Men all just runs together for me.

Dam, call me stupid, but I tough M-Day was something from a (real) war.

But on the note of Marvel, growing up, I'd only buy Marvel, now it ALL runs together for me. All their stories have the implication of consiquence, but nothing ever lasts long enough for the meaning to hit.

And once they started letting the movies dictate the art (Spider-Man back in his black suit now, hmm wonder why) I was just out.

I stopped buying Marvel back around the early 90s when Chris Claremont and Jim Lee left X-Men. The books were focusing too much on the art, and less on the story. At least with DC, even if the art was crappy, you were usually getting some decent writing.

Yeah, right about then, maybe a year into the start of IMAGE is when I gave up.

I remember all the die-cut covers and polybaged editions that made you wanna get doubles just killed it for me.

As for DC, I can respect the characters, but outside of some one shots like "The Killing Joke" or "Kingdomcome" I just couldn't get into the continuities. DC characters always seemed to perfect to me.

Marvel at least had character flaws and things like that which made them seem more real.

But yeah, thats when I stopped. I had a brief revival when I worked in a Barnes & Nobels and was able to steal them, but that ended quick.

My friend Jing always kept me in te loop, and to this day I still write and draw my own(any backers out there?). But fanatical collecting is something I now reserve for TF toys.

I am looking to get as many TF TPBs as possible now though as the stories are good. I know they come out in monthly issues, but I'd rather just get the stories in one shot nowadays.

looks sweet. From the prev i guess some of the aveng dont know the bots are on their sides... Ms Marvel (or whatever) hit Prime... that bi***

I'd say the new Transformer turns into a car. I don't think it could be Doubledealer, but he is already a part of the IDW-verse in the Hot Rod spotlight. I doubt it'd be Dreadwind because more often than not, wherever he is there is also Darkwing.

I'm betting on him being Punch/Counterpunch.

looks great

waaaaghlord wrote:I take it that the bot between Skywarp and Blitzwing is the new character that IDW's pushing with this book and a forthcoming Spotlight. Did he get introduced in #1 or will this be the first appearance? I'm not generally that enthused with crossover titles, but since Chris Ryall's said that this fits into the main IDW continuity I guess I'll be giving it a look at some point.

That bot between Skywarp and Blitzwing sure looks and awful lot like Twin-Twist to me.

Hairball178 wrote:I'd say the new Transformer turns into a car. I don't think it could be Doubledealer, but he is already a part of the IDW-verse in the Hot Rod spotlight. I doubt it'd be Dreadwind because more often than not, wherever he is there is also Darkwing.

I'm betting on him being Punch/Counterpunch.

Yeah, I'd say it's a safe bet it's not Doubledealer since he looks nothing like he did in the Hot Rod Spotlight. But then again, they're using a (thankfully) different design for Bumblebee than EJ Su's redesign, so who knows. But still, I'm gonna say no.

My first gut instinct when I saw it was Darkwing, but then I noticed he didn't have the wings on his head. And he also looks completely different than his awesome DonFig design in Stormbringer, so unless that's some crappy Earth-mode they gave him, that's another no on that one.

Is it wrong that I don't like the idea of it being an all new character? I mean, we've got hundreds of G1 characters to choose from (not to mention G2 since the Galvatron spotlight seems to have opened up that door), so why not use a character who already exists rather than make a new one. Seriously, everytime I see an "all-new" character, all I can think is "cannon fodder."

Without non toy characters in TF comics we wouldn't have had Emirate Xaaron, Lord Straxus, Impactor, The Fallen or the legions of redshirt bots that Furman just loves to send screaming to the Pit in droves. New comic characters are a long standing tradition and have the bonus of not coming with any baggage associated with them from previous continuities. So long as it's not overdone I don't see too much of a problem with IDW bringing some new bots into the mix. Spotlight Hotrod was full of redshirts.

At the time Emirate Xaaron, Straxus and the like were created, there were no existing Transformers with toys that could fit the persona. Now there are hundreds to pick from especially if you consider the Japanese only toys.

There's no reason for 'redshirt' generics to exist any more - just do what Spotlight Galvatron did and use G2 characters - they may as well be completely new characters to some people but those who know who they are will appreciate it more.

Down_Shift wrote:

MYoung23 wrote:IDW loves them some Runabout and Runamuck.

I guess Im one of the few Stunticons fans.

I'm confused by this statement. Do you think that the mucks are Stunticons or are you just pronouncing your love of the Stunticons

Im just pronouncing my like of the Stuntacons. They keep recycling Runabout and Runamuck while they 5 perfectly good crazy Stuntacons in storage.

my intial thought was double dealer as well, albeit with an earth mode, but i could see how it kinda looks like dreadwind too. i find it hard to beleive they introduce a new charcacter in a crossoover series, even though it fits in continuity wise.... actually exactly what point in the idwverse does this take place? if captain america is there its clearly way before civil war in the marvel universe. i guess maybe its post stormbringer/ pre-escalation?

MYoung23 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

MYoung23 wrote:IDW loves them some Runabout and Runamuck.

I guess Im one of the few Stunticons fans.

I'm confused by this statement. Do you think that the mucks are Stunticons or are you just pronouncing your love of the Stunticons

Im just pronouncing my like of the Stuntacons. They keep recycling Runabout and Runamuck while they 5 perfectly good crazy Stuntacons in storage.

Since this is supposed to fit into the main continuity they're keeping it pretty much to the bots that have already been established as being on Earth. Runabout and Runamuck were in Starscream's infiltration unit in Infiltration so it makes perfect sense that they're still around. It's a shame that there's not as much continuity in the art, to my mind now that EJ's redesigns have been established they should be consistant with them. I'm sure that the Stunticons will show up somewhere down the line.

Then why are they introducing a new character?

We've seen the entire Starscream Infiltration Unit

i really hate to wait for the trade papeback but thats just what im going to do main reason for me is getting is how the characters corespond with each other wolvie, spidery and his bad jokes mainly, doom, and others more like them.

I guess the reason for picking the two Runs over the Stunticons is that it's easier to fit two characters in than five.

well im certainly going to buy it, i bought the first one, and was happy with my purchase, i mean come onnnn, its like 4 issues that cost $2.99

I got it in the uk for like £4 inc. delivery, hardly a bank breaker.

haha, Fast food costs more in a average meal.

Jazz-935 wrote:I got it in the uk for like £4 inc. delivery, hardly a bank breaker.

£4, are you mad? You're in London, there's hardly a shortage of comic shops in the area and you've paid more than twice the going rate for a current comic that every comic shop in the country's stocking. If we were talking about a title from one of the smaller comic houses like Avatar or an incentive cover that was in something like a 1 in 25 ratio then I could understand. Even if it was a fairly common comic that had been out for a while and you'd missed at the time that would be understandable. End of the day this is a current Marvel book and not worth anything like four quid.

well fair enough buddy, but i had it delivered... So no biggy, whats £4 today anyway?

Its was actually more like £3.49

You're right, I may have come across a bit too strongly there. I was just a little taken by surprise that anyone would attatch more than market value to a poorly written, not very well illustrated and to be quite honest badly advised crossover title that only has any real interest since it's supposed to fit into the ongoing IDW continuity. With luck whatever IDW have managed to get out of the deal in terms of rights to use Marvel characters somewhere down the line will be a superior offering.

i dunno.... i enjoyed it tbh. then agan i dont buy comics... this is like the first series i intend to complete... because its short and transformers related.

Fair enough. That's the beauty of these forums really. So long as people don't let themselves take their points too seriously and get their noses bent out of shape when they disagree with somebody else's view then we've all got our own imput to add and people can take from that what they want. If I've been coming across as a bit overbearing then I'm sorry, not what I intended to do. Just adding my thoughts to the mix.