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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:20 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
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Save for that limited gold-plated Primus redeco. Purdy-looking, that thing is. 8-)
Ha, well, I usually exclude Lucky Draws from my references to re-deco counts. It makes me feel better about the fact that I'll never own 99% of them :-(

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Seibertron » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:18 pm

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Just want to toss my hat in with the folks that think this sets are a big disappointment. Rereleases of toys that I already own an average of 10 each of isn't something special at this point. A new G1 styled Optimus and Megatron to replace the not-so great Classics Voyagers would be very welcomed at this point and would indeed be something special for the 30th anniversary of the movie.

This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:28 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Just want to toss my hat in with the folks that think this sets are a big disappointment. Rereleases of toys that I already own an average of 10 each of isn't something special at this point. A new G1 styled Optimus and Megatron to replace the not-so great Classics Voyagers would be very welcomed at this point and would indeed be something special for the 30th anniversary of the movie.

This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!


Extreme, what other re-uses has hasbro offered for these guys?
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

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Seibertron wrote:This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!


Yes, indeed. How many versions of Classic Oprimus ones need anyway? >:oP
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:10 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Just want to toss my hat in with the folks that think this sets are a big disappointment. Rereleases of toys that I already own an average of 10 each of isn't something special at this point. A new G1 styled Optimus and Megatron to replace the not-so great Classics Voyagers would be very welcomed at this point and would indeed be something special for the 30th anniversary of the movie.

This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!


Extreme, what other re-uses has hasbro offered for these guys?


He's looking at both Hasbro and Takara. And Hasbro has rereleased that classics Optimus a ton. Same with classics rodimus and Universe Cyclonus. Takara has a few of that Universe Galvatron as well. These are all molds we have seen a bunch of and that are readily available (that more my problem with these).
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:16 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Just want to toss my hat in with the folks that think this sets are a big disappointment. Rereleases of toys that I already own an average of 10 each of isn't something special at this point. A new G1 styled Optimus and Megatron to replace the not-so great Classics Voyagers would be very welcomed at this point and would indeed be something special for the 30th anniversary of the movie.

This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!


Extreme, what other re-uses has hasbro offered for these guys?

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:10 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Just want to toss my hat in with the folks that think this sets are a big disappointment. Rereleases of toys that I already own an average of 10 each of isn't something special at this point. A new G1 styled Optimus and Megatron to replace the not-so great Classics Voyagers would be very welcomed at this point and would indeed be something special for the 30th anniversary of the movie.

This extreme re-use of molds during the past couple of years is getting frustrating!


Extreme, what other re-uses has hasbro offered for these guys?

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Plus the AOE Evolution 2-Pack Prime.


Oh, coulda sworn he was referring to the rodimus/galvatron pack, well, it's still nice for those (like me) that haven't got either. Don't want them, you're not obligated to get them >:oP

At least the o/p megs set looks nice (for the most part *stares through Optimus' truckcab*)
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:well, it's still nice for those (like me) that haven't got either. Don't want them, you're not obligated to get them >:oP


But thats my point, you can get both of those right now for cheaper than its gonna cost you.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:42 pm

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Someone in Hb must have gone lazy mode. Didn't even think of a worthy 30th A collector piece.

If I'd been given the power I would release:

iPod Optimus Prime mold in G1 colors + the extra layer of paint

Keep the stacks

Keep the blue windshields

Keep gray Roller

Keep the fat ion rifle and the energon ax

Keep the springs

Make it an adult collector piece

Special box like the TFC or 6 shot release

A booklet detailing Optimus' history

Megs...if for Asia. a functional G1 with stockpiece like Encore with the morning star. special box, special booklet similar to the Takara Farewell Megatron set.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:45 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:well, it's still nice for those (like me) that haven't got either. Don't want them, you're not obligated to get them >:oP


But thats my point, you can get both of those right now for cheaper than its gonna cost you.


Nah, don't want the dumb hasbro nerfatron, 'sides this megs looks :michaelbay: with a little 8-)

Doubt I'll be able to snag this set if it's anywhere near as much as they're asking, but I'm able to wait the year to see if it goes on clearance somewhere >:oP
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:53 pm

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:56 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:A great 200$ set would be this:

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With this:

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Anyone agree?


200$ is a little steep. I would say 100$ tops. The molds arent that expensive to make.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:29 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:A great 200$ set would be this:

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With this:

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Anyone agree?


No >:oP
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:54 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:A great 200$ set would be this:

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With this:

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Anyone agree?


No >:oP


Personal preference mate.

Kid these days needs to have a bit of TF bricks in their diet :lol:

Seriously, we can never go forward without looking back to the past. Though the anime Galvatron was released over a decade a go (around 2005 iirc).

Takara back then did a bit some retooling the face, changed the battery type and added Japanese voice clips aside from the sound effects.

I own this and use the Matrix that came with him on my iPod Optimus Prime G1 colors.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

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This is another reason I wouldn't be terribly interested:

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The size is really varied... Don't get me wrong. I have both G1 Galvy and Rodimus Prime. But, Rodimus is puny next to G1 Galvy. (Plus, G1 Roddy is really not that great a toy, in my opinion. Certainly nothing next to G1 Hot Rod!)
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:04 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:A great 200$ set would be this:

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With this:

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Anyone agree?


No >:oP


Personal preference mate.

Kid these days needs to have a bit of TF bricks in their diet :lol:

Seriously, we can never go forward without looking back to the past. Though the anime Galvatron was released over a decade a go (around 2005 iirc).

Takara back then did a bit some retooling the face, changed the battery type and added Japanese voice clips aside from the sound effects.

I own this and use the Matrix that came with him on my iPod Optimus Prime G1 colors.


Are you kidding? I F%$KING grew up through Armada, they were plenty brick for me, even back then I despised them all :-x
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Seibertron » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:57 am

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G1 reissue sets would be most appropriate since we're celebrating the 30th anniversary of the G1 cartoon movie. Regardless of what side of the argument you're on about G1 toys, the fact is that these sets are supposed to be anniversary sets for that cartoon, which was made originally to sell G1 toys. And none of the light purple lilac crap on G1 Galvatron please!!!

If, for whatever reason, the G1 toys are off the table (regardless of gun toy safety laws, mold unavailability, costs, etc), then doing some really nice slavish "Classics"/Universe/Generations "reissues" would be really nice. Do something special like make a new trailer for Classics Optimus, or do something that would set these re-releases apart from the originals. Make them truly Platinum Editions and not lazy re-releases of toys many of us own many multiples of already.

In a perfect world, these sets should be celebrating the 30th anniversary by giving us new molds of Rodimus, Galvatron, Optimus Prime, and Megatron. 3 of those molds are TEN years old already and I really don't think they're that great of toys now that I have something like Cyclonus, Wreck-Gar and Combiner Wars Superion in my collection. As for that Galvatron toy, while it would have been an awesome Voyager figure just plain isn't-all-that-great as a deluxe.

With all of that said, my basic point is this: if sets like these Platinum sets that are supposed to be celebrating the 30th anniversary aren't appealing to the very people that these sets are designed for, what's the point of them? As it stands, these sets are extremely disappointing, especially with the absurd pricing that just strikes me as an extreme slap in the face as a collector and as a Transformers fan. I am looking forward to getting to talk to the brand team about these sets at Toy Fair in 12 days.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:07 am

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The Platinum Edition line overall strikes me as being like a return of the Universe (2003) line that was nothing but crazy redecos, but now with the added bonus of some occasional remolds, some occasional newly-included accessories from other preexisting figures, and consistently outrageous prices. I really get the feeling that whoever is the brains behind this line clearly has no real idea as to what this line is trying to do besides being absolutely unpredictable and at times downright nuts. There is little to no real coherence or logic with this line (at least, not since the AOE-based sets met their end), as though the line now exists only to make us scratch our heads while also eating at our wallets.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:11 am

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Honestly, if they could have waited, they could've done the best of both by using TR Galvy and any hot rod/rodimus figure that may come of that line, or maybe package tr galvy with the matrix necklace and classics hot rod and did a 'Belly of the Beast Showdown' pack, that would've been really great 8-)
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:12 am

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Seibertron wrote:G1 reissue sets would be most appropriate since we're celebrating the 30th anniversary of the G1 cartoon movie. Regardless of what side of the argument you're on about G1 toys, the fact is that these sets are supposed to be anniversary sets for that cartoon, which was made originally to sell G1 toys. And none of the light purple lilac crap on G1 Galvatron please!!!

If, for whatever reason, the G1 toys are off the table (regardless of gun toy safety laws, mold unavailability, costs, etc), then doing some really nice slavish "Classics"/Universe/Generations "reissues" would be really nice. Do something special like make a new trailer for Classics Optimus, or do something that would set these re-releases apart from the originals. Make them truly Platinum Editions and not lazy re-releases of toys many of us own many multiples of already.

In a perfect world, these sets should be celebrating the 30th anniversary by giving us new molds of Rodimus, Galvatron, Optimus Prime, and Megatron. 3 of those molds are TEN years old already and I really don't think they're that great of toys now that I have something like Cyclonus, Wreck-Gar and Combiner Wars Superion in my collection. As for that Galvatron toy, while it would have been an awesome Voyager figure just plain isn't-all-that-great as a deluxe.

With all of that said, my basic point is this: if sets like these Platinum sets that are supposed to be celebrating the 30th anniversary aren't appealing to the very people that these sets are designed for, what's the point of them? As it stands, these sets are extremely disappointing, especially with the absurd pricing that just strikes me as an extreme slap in the face as a collector and as a Transformers fan. I am looking forward to getting to talk to the brand team about these sets at Toy Fair in 12 days.


This x infinity. It's like a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery lazy effort in Hb's part. Also tarnishes the category of "Platinum". As for the purple.....Galvatron G of Superlink purple would be BOSS. :-D

Back to Ryan's points. It's the 30th. Who the f#ck cares? Us! The 30 yr loyal fans of the original show. Not the whiny kids but us the whiny "kids at heart" who has some disposable cash to spend. At least give us a collectible piece similar to those release by Disney or the Disney in the opposite side of the Pacific (i.e. Japan)
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby RhA » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:33 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:G1 reissue sets would be most appropriate since we're celebrating the 30th anniversary of the G1 cartoon movie. Regardless of what side of the argument you're on about G1 toys, the fact is that these sets are supposed to be anniversary sets for that cartoon, which was made originally to sell G1 toys. And none of the light purple lilac crap on G1 Galvatron please!!!

If, for whatever reason, the G1 toys are off the table (regardless of gun toy safety laws, mold unavailability, costs, etc), then doing some really nice slavish "Classics"/Universe/Generations "reissues" would be really nice. Do something special like make a new trailer for Classics Optimus, or do something that would set these re-releases apart from the originals. Make them truly Platinum Editions and not lazy re-releases of toys many of us own many multiples of already.

In a perfect world, these sets should be celebrating the 30th anniversary by giving us new molds of Rodimus, Galvatron, Optimus Prime, and Megatron. 3 of those molds are TEN years old already and I really don't think they're that great of toys now that I have something like Cyclonus, Wreck-Gar and Combiner Wars Superion in my collection. As for that Galvatron toy, while it would have been an awesome Voyager figure just plain isn't-all-that-great as a deluxe.

With all of that said, my basic point is this: if sets like these Platinum sets that are supposed to be celebrating the 30th anniversary aren't appealing to the very people that these sets are designed for, what's the point of them? As it stands, these sets are extremely disappointing, especially with the absurd pricing that just strikes me as an extreme slap in the face as a collector and as a Transformers fan. I am looking forward to getting to talk to the brand team about these sets at Toy Fair in 12 days.


This x infinity. It's like a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery lazy effort in Hb's part. Also tarnishes the category of "Platinum". As for the purple.....Galvatron G of Superlink purple would be BOSS. :-D

Back to Ryan's points. It's the 30th. Who the f#ck cares? Us! The 30 yr loyal fans of the original show. Not the whiny kids but us the whiny "kids at heart" who has some disposable cash to spend. At least give us a collectible piece similar to those release by Disney or the Disney in the opposite side of the Pacific (i.e. Japan)


Remember thrilling 30? Not so thrilling. A very bad year for TF's even. This year we're seeing the 30th anniversery of the movie and the 20th for Beast Wars, neither of which will be anything more than a sticker on a box.

Also, I love my lilac Galvatron. He looks like he smells pretty and that's all Galvatron wants.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:37 am

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RhA wrote:Remember thrilling 30? Not so thrilling. A very bad year for TF's even. This year we're seeing the 30th anniversery of the movie and the 20th for Beast Wars, neither of which will be anything more than a sticker on a box.


Well, if you only went by the thrilling 30's list of exclusive figures, then yes, otherwise I thought it was a great year for tf's one of the best even, based on the variety of the figures offered >:oP
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Seibertron wrote:With all of that said, my basic point is this: if sets like these Platinum sets that are supposed to be celebrating the 30th anniversary aren't appealing to the very people that these sets are designed for, what's the point of them? As it stands, these sets are extremely disappointing, especially with the absurd pricing that just strikes me as an extreme slap in the face as a collector and as a Transformers fan. I am looking forward to getting to talk to the brand team about these sets at Toy Fair in 12 days.


I completely agree with this.

We had a chance here for an anime-accurate set of Rodimus Prime and Galvatron. Or possibly even Hot Rod and Galvatron. Either way - I want my magenta Rodimus and deep purple Galvatron.

Rodimus Prime might be a bit of a naff figure (blame the fact he was downsized from being the same height as Galvatron at the prototype phase), but Galvatron is, imo, easily one of the best post-diaclone era figures they made in G1.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

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Seibertron wrote:I am looking forward to getting to talk to the brand team about these sets at Toy Fair in 12 days.


Oh man, I am so looking forward to that interview!

Also, while these sets arent doing it, you will be getting a new Voyager Galvatron toy this year as well as a new Hot Rod MP from Takara. So half of your wish list for this 30th anniversary :)
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