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Dead Metal wrote:The stuff I was referring to was ridicules things like a dress for MP Grimlock, utterly obvious from the title and description that it was a joke. Especially seeing how the threads were pretty popular.

Ha! Remember when takara announced the apron edition was coming out, haha, what a laugh we all had, that would never happen... wait...

william-james88 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Here are the things Hasbro will never ever do: A reissue of G1 Jetfire, Shockwave, Whirl, Roadbuster, and the deluxe insecticons. Anything else is fair game as far as I am concerned, we just might have to wait a while.

Is that because they were made by different companies and then repainted and sold by Hasbro?


Would explain Whirl's non-human nature compared to other Autobots.

Yup, they werent made by Takara or Tomy and now the rights to those toys are no longer in their hands (they are mostly with Bandai, who also have all the rights to the gobot toys). I wrote a top 5 list about those, I will be releasing it in 3 weeks.

If you do, include that ToyCo the original creators of Shockwave wouldn't resurrecting him since they're kinda proud that one of their only robot toys (they specialized in toy cars at the time) had such a huge impact and actually helped shape such a major franchise. But they've licensed the thing out so many times, that they're not even sure if they even own the rights anymore, or who actually does today. Could be Hasbro, could be Takara, could be Bandai, could be Radioshack etc..
Apparently the rights to Shockwave have been making the rounds like a cheap hooker.

william-james88 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:The stuff I was referring to was ridicules things like a dress for MP Grimlock, utterly obvious from the title and description that it was a joke. Especially seeing how the threads were pretty popular.

Ha! Remember when takara announced the apron edition was coming out, haha, what a laugh we all had, that would never happen... wait...

Oh no, it was like after the toy had already came out. The apron was awesome, and it's actually show accurate, which is why it'S believable.

Honestly i think it would be siprising to get a combiner wars reflector because ge does combine in some shape in way

Dead Metal wrote:Oh no, it was like after the toy had already came out. The apron was awesome, and it's actually show accurate, which is why it'S believable.

I know what you meant, I was just having a bit of fun. As for the shockwave stuff, if you could pm me with a source for what you said, I would very much appreciate it. And it would surprise me if Radioshoack is the one with the rights. Although, the list, as it is, is more of a history lesson and not really a "where are they now" type of thing.

Dead Metal wrote:The site has changed it's April Fools policy? Awesome, that's an improvement!

God, if I think back at all the awesome April Fools stuff I wanted to post over the years XD

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. If we pulled stuff like this when we were still News Staff Ryan would have had our legs broken.

A real slave driver, he is.

william-james88 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Oh no, it was like after the toy had already came out. The apron was awesome, and it's actually show accurate, which is why it'S believable.

I know what you meant, I was just having a bit of fun. As for the shockwave stuff, if you could pm me with a source for what you said, I would very much appreciate it. And it would surprise me if Radioshoack is the one with the rights. Although, the list, as it is, is more of a history lesson and not really a "where are they now" type of thing.

Iirc it was in one of seibertron's news stories years back. The feedback actually came from Tomy when asked why no MP Shockwave yet. DM made the quote just more comedic.

Who doesn't want a decent upgraded 3 piece reflector? That would be SUPER AWESOME!!!

Antron wrote:Who doesn't want a decent upgraded 3 piece reflector? That would be SUPER AWESOME!!!

The real question is who really cares if we do or don't?




I don't remember Reflector being of any importance.

I hate to say it but I feel a CW Reflector would be better than anything fan built

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hate to say it but I feel a CW Reflector would be better than anything fan built

Anything?


Are you sure?



You have not even seen the fan bots and Windblade was a totally cool bot for being a fan made bot.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hate to say it but I feel a CW Reflector would be better than anything fan built

Anything?


Are you sure?



You have not even seen the fan bots and Windblade was a totally cool bot for being a fan made bot.

Depends on what you mean by fan made. Sure, fans chose Windblade's gender, alt mode, faction, etc., but IDW and Sarah Stone made the character cool. In a vacuum, without knowing the exact character concept IDW has planned for the "fan built" combiner, I would choose a classic character like Reflector over something fan built any day.

megatronus wrote:
Depends on what you mean by fan made. Sure, fans chose Windblade's gender, alt mode, faction, etc., but IDW and Sarah Stone made the character cool. In a vacuum, without knowing whether the character concept IDW has planned for the "fan built" combiner, I would choose a classic character like Reflector over something fan built any day.

But how can you decide when we haven't seen the combiner yet eh?

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

megatronus wrote:
Depends on what you mean by fan made. Sure, fans chose Windblade's gender, alt mode, faction, etc., but IDW and Sarah Stone made the character cool. In a vacuum, without knowing whether the character concept IDW has planned for the "fan built" combiner, I would choose a classic character like Reflector over something fan built any day.

But how can you decide when we haven't seen the combiner yet eh?

Because Reflector = awesome. Always.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Would explain Whirl's non-human nature compared to other Autobots.

Kinda. Whirl (as the Ovalon Gazette) originally came from the (now Bandai owned) Dorvack anime and toy line along side wave mate Roadbuster (called the Mugen Calibur there). Roadbuster basically looks like any other Transformer so Whirl was just an aesthetic choice of the designer's and not something common among Dorvack designs. The backwards legs is something I think IDW started to make him look even more tortured as the original Ovalon Gazette had normal knees (as did the G1 figure box art). The claws and optic face are explained heavily as part of the IDW comics (empurata). Incidentally the third changeable bot from Dorvack, the Bonaparte Tulcas, appeared in Convertors as Tanker along side Whirl and Roadbuster as Chopper and Wheels respectively. Bonaparte/Tanker is very non-human looking and has a bit in common with Tankor.

Dead Metal wrote:If you do, include that ToyCo the original creators of Shockwave wouldn't resurrecting him since they're kinda proud that one of their only robot toys (they specialized in toy cars at the time) had such a huge impact and actually helped shape such a major franchise. But they've licensed the thing out so many times, that they're not even sure if they even own the rights anymore, or who actually does today. Could be Hasbro, could be Takara, could be Bandai, could be Radioshack etc..
Apparently the rights to Shockwave have been making the rounds like a cheap hooker.

Isn't it also believed that ToyCo didn't even make the original Astro Magnum themselves, but did it on commission just like everything else they do and couldn't even begin to figure out who really owns the rights to the design? Safe to say it isn't Hasbro or Takara Tomy that own the rights and there's no reason for Bandai to. RadioShack licensed their Galactic Man figure which even has a ToyCo stamp on the inner left leg.



I think the theory that ToyCo lost track of who really owns the rights therefore nobody can remake the figure legally is the most likely correct one.

On topic: I would love Voyager priced Reflector set, but somehow I feel like Hasbro would rather give us a Deluxe Mini-Con three pack of the trio instead.

Emerje

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Antron wrote:Who doesn't want a decent upgraded 3 piece reflector? That would be SUPER AWESOME!!!

The real question is who really cares if we do or don't?




I don't remember Reflector being of any importance.

I care, Reflector is awesome! He was such a good spy he completely disappeared by season two.

Not to mention, he had such a weird mystique when he was on the cartoon. He was so different than the others and he had no toy. You were left wondering "Who is this guy? How did he sneak onto the show?"

RiddlerJ wrote:Not to mention, he had such a weird mystique when he was on the cartoon. He was so different than the others and he had no toy. You were left wondering "Who is this guy? How did he sneak onto the show?"

Yeah, that must have been weird. He only came out in 86, when he was no longer on the show, and the colors were all wrong.

william-james88 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Not to mention, he had such a weird mystique when he was on the cartoon. He was so different than the others and he had no toy. You were left wondering "Who is this guy? How did he sneak onto the show?"

Yeah, that must have been weird. He only came out in 86, when he was no longer on the show, and the colors were all wrong.

I remember trying to convince my parents to let me order for the mail-away. They didn't go for it though. I got a Kup that was crowding the shelves instead. I wasn’t to mad considering Kup has much more screen time than Reflector did.

I would love to get a three-figure Reflector. The gun/camera that came with the Insecticon just doesn't cut it.

william-james88 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Not to mention, he had such a weird mystique when he was on the cartoon. He was so different than the others and he had no toy. You were left wondering "Who is this guy? How did he sneak onto the show?"

Yeah, that must have been weird. He only came out in 86, when he was no longer on the show, and the colors were all wrong.

The colors were strange for us back in the day, but they were still airing repeats of the pre-movie episodes so it's not like new kids didn't know who Reflector was.

Emerje

As with last year on this first of April, the Facebook Transformers page has a new product anouncement post: the Stapletron.

The war for Cybertron is getting professional. New from Transformers, the OFFICE BOTS series lets you bring the battle to the workplace with the MEMOBOTS and DESKCEPTICONS.

I approve of this new, bold direction. All Hail Hasbro.

Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler...

Frieza is reincarnated as a stapler?

Man, Dragon Ball Super is AMAZING.