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News Credits: 2 · by **Hero Alpha** » Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:51 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:On top of that the best mold fit they already had at the time of release and it would have been PotP Jazz, which I'm actually surprised did not happen.
To be fair, that mold kinda sucked anyway.

Oh, big time, so I'm actually fine with them using the Mirage mold. It was just the absolute correct shape for the car for Crasher that is seemed like a no brainer.
Yeah, but, legally-speaking, that's probably a reason why they didn't ever use it for Crasher.

Also because the robot mode was bad, in general, for Jazz or Crasher. Correct on the alt mode though, it would have looked nice in car mode for her.

by **megatran** » Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:27 pm

DISCHARGE wrote:Does anyone else feel Crasher wasn't done justice?
I don't mind the mirage mold, I prefer the Siege version, but it might have looked better on the Cybertron Hot Shot/Excellion mold.
IMG_20250805_233008106~2.jpg

I'm not opening her. After looking at G2 Mirage, it's such a bad alt mode.
But in a box, in robot mode, behind a plastic window... Mm.

What are those 2 cars next to G2 Mirage? Thanks.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:44 pm

megatran wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:Does anyone else feel Crasher wasn't done justice?
I don't mind the mirage mold, I prefer the Siege version, but it might have looked better on the Cybertron Hot Shot/Excellion mold.
IMG_20250805_233008106~2.jpg

I'm not opening her. After looking at G2 Mirage, it's such a bad alt mode.
But in a box, in robot mode, behind a plastic window... Mm.

What are those 2 cars next to G2 Mirage? Thanks.

Tonka GoBots Crasher (second version) and Spychanger Wheeljack.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:On top of that the best mold fit they already had at the time of release and it would have been PotP Jazz, which I'm actually surprised did not happen.
To be fair, that mold kinda sucked anyway.

Oh, big time, so I'm actually fine with them using the Mirage mold. It was just the absolute correct shape for the car for Crasher that is seemed like a no brainer.
Yeah, but, legally-speaking, that's probably a reason why they didn't ever use it for Crasher.

That, and Fracture was also a Walmart exclusive so it isn't just a homage to the original figure but also a homage to how it was sold.

Emerje

by **Till-all-R1** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:03 am

Out of curiosity, what exactly are the "legal reasons"? Considering Hasbro bought Tonka in 1991. Since Tonka is no longer a separate entity it's not like they can make new GoBots toys. Yet for some reason neither can Hasbro. lol
Is there a third party involved as to why their original likeness cannot be recreated?
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more made.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:31 am

Till-all-R1 wrote:Out of curiosity, what exactly are the "legal reasons"? Considering Hasbro bought Tonka in 1991. Since Tonka is no longer a separate entity it's not like they can make new GoBots toys. Yet for some reason neither can Hasbro. lol
Is there a third party involved as to why their original likeness cannot be recreated?
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more made.

Hasbro buying Tonka didn't really get them GoBots as characters, just the names associated with it. Cartoon likenesses are owned by WB (or whoever, it traded hands a lot over the years) and the toy likenesses still belong to Bandai. Companies didn't always fully protect their IPs back in the day, it's why there's so many Transformers characters in the comics that are owned by Marvel. This stuff was basically considered disposable, nobody expected it to survive the 80s so they didn't put a lot of effort into protecting all of it. Hasbro had a little more foresight than most companies of the time, but a lot of toy companies abandoned IPs as quickly as they made them. Lately Nacelle has been snapping up a lot of abandoned IPs like Robo Force, Insectaurs, Cowboys of Moo Mesa, Biker Mice from Mars and most recently Power Lords.

Emerje

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:58 am

Emerje wrote:Companies didn't always fully protect their IPs back in the day, it's why there's so many Transformers characters in the comics that are owned by Marvel.

If you're referring to the likes of Circuit Breaker and Death's Head, those two are owned by Marvel because they made their first debuts in comics belonging to Marvel first and foremost before they first appeared in the Marvel Transformers comics. Any character who originally first debuted in the Transformers comics defaulted to Hasbro's ownership since the Marvel Transformers comics were a licensed series rather than a Marvel-original work. So it's just Circuit Breaker and Death's Head (and Spider-Man and all the cameos from Issue #3) whom Marvel own. Everyone else who first debuted in the Marvel Transformers comics are Hasbro's IP.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:21 pm

megatran wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:Does anyone else feel Crasher wasn't done justice?
I don't mind the mirage mold, I prefer the Siege version, but it might have looked better on the Cybertron Hot Shot/Excellion mold.
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I'm not opening her. After looking at G2 Mirage, it's such a bad alt mode.
But in a box, in robot mode, behind a plastic window... Mm.

What are those 2 cars next to G2 Mirage? Thanks.

OG go-bot Crasher and Spychangers Wheeljack

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:59 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:Does anyone else feel Crasher wasn't done justice?
I don't mind the mirage mold, I prefer the Siege version, but it might have looked better on the Cybertron Hot Shot/Excellion mold.
That mold didn't yet exist at the time the Velocitron subline was first released. Crasher is a reissue of that same release, rereleased due to how difficult to find she was the first time around.

Plus, she's inspired by the 2007 Movie Fracture figure that was likewise a Mirage redeco, as they can't make her look too much like the original GoBot/Machine Robo toy whose likeness is owned by rival company Bandai. She needs to look legally distinct enough in order to not infringe on Bandai's IP, especially when trying to market the toy in Japan where Bandai's competition with TakaraTomy is even greater than it is with Hasbro in the west.

I would have preferred a straight reissue of the older one if they "have to" do what's already been done. I woulda still wanted it in the aotp packaging.

The alt mode is just cleaner and I remember liking the robot mode. I like the mirage robot mode, and Crashers robot mode is nice.. but if they had time to wait to rebatch that mirage mold to fit it in aotp packaging.. they had time to wait for greener opportunities
Like, plans change.
It's like saying all the egghead's at hasbro are like "no man, we can't make changes." So I'm saying, they could a been like hey let's not pay to bring out another mold, they could have just used the hot shot mold after molding Excellion and just slap Crasher/Fracture color scheme in it.
It's just a cool figure/ property and I think they could have been more creative.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:10 am

The whole point of rereleasing Velocitron Crasher in AOTP was to give those who missed out on her the first time a second chance to get her, because of how difficult she was to find the first time around. People wanted her but couldn't find her, and now they can.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:The whole point of rereleasing Velocitron Crasher in AOTP was to give those who missed out on her the first time a second chance to get her, because of how difficult she was to find the first time around. People wanted her but couldn't find her, and now they can.

I had to wait for lucky eBay finds that happened to be at the normal price plus shipping... Twice.

The reissue of Crasher and Cosmos were certainly not a luxury.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:47 pm

So, regarding the supposed rumors of Walmart having cancelled the Cybertron capsule line and Sideways in particular, I think we can safely say that that isn't the case, because...

My Walmart had seven of them (six now, thanks to me).

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Aug 09, 2025 3:04 pm

For those that need, I have an extra Sideways. The right side of the box is crushed. All I ask is cost and shipping. All of which is negotiable.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:39 am

Sabrblade wrote:So, regarding the supposed rumors of Walmart having cancelled the Cybertron capsule line and Sideways in particular, I think we can safely say that that isn't the case, because...

My Walmart had seven of them (six now, thanks to me).

The rumor, started by Jtprime17, was that Excellion and Sideways were still being released (Sideways was still showing up in other countries when Walmart cancelled all those orders) but the rest of the capsule was cancelled. That still seems to be true, we've never seen Walmart just release only two figures from a full capsule like this before.

Emerje

by **Till-all-R1** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:25 am

I don't know who all was in the Capsule subline but if this character is any indication it won't be missed by me, I'm just not into the Cybertron show. And the design of Sideways doesn't do anything for me albeit a neat alt mode. After the frustration with Cosmos and Crasher being part of their Exclusive I don't ever want Walmart getting something similar that I'm after again.

I'm happy that these two are seemingly more plentiful and easy to acquire for those who want them, and at least Pulse offers an allotment whereas they didn't with the aforementioned two from Velocitron 500.

News Credits: 2 · by **Hero Alpha** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:42 pm

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know who all was in the Capsule subline but if this character is any indication it won't be missed by me, I'm just not into the Cybertron show. And the design of Sideways doesn't do anything for me albeit a neat alt mode. After the frustration with Cosmos and Crasher being part of their Exclusive I don't ever want Walmart getting something similar that I'm after again.

I'm happy that these two are seemingly more plentiful and easy to acquire for those who want them, and at least Pulse offers an allotment whereas they didn't with the aforementioned two from Velocitron 500.

I know Cosmos was on Pulse back then because I missed the pre-order. Learned my lesson that day. Luckily they put him out again.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:46 pm

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know who all was in the Capsule subline but if this character is any indication it won't be missed by me, I'm just not into the Cybertron show. And the design of Sideways doesn't do anything for me albeit a neat alt mode. After the frustration with Cosmos and Crasher being part of their Exclusive I don't ever want Walmart getting something similar that I'm after again.

I'm happy that these two are seemingly more plentiful and easy to acquire for those who want them, and at least Pulse offers an allotment whereas they didn't with the aforementioned two from Velocitron 500.

The only other figure for this capsule to have been leaked was Cybertron Skywarp, but it's never so much as been leaked which really just adds more evidence to the line being canceled. If it had gone as planned there would have been two more Deluxes and a Leader.

Emerje

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:00 pm

Uh yeah it was on the shelf with one other one that looked opened and fooled with so I wasn't asking questions about the good looking condition one and bolted to checkout....'nuff said! :DANCE:

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:30 pm

Got some of the new bots in lately.

Alchemist, Vortex, and Heatwave are all very mid. If it weren't for how cool skybyte is, the whole wave would be forgettable.

Sideways is great, and Excellion is pretty nice.

I really hope we get an Alpha Bravo selects repaint of Vortex, he looks good on superion

News Credits: 2 · by **Hero Alpha** » Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:26 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Got some of the new bots in lately.

Alchemist, Vortex, and Heatwave are all very mid. If it weren't for how cool skybyte is, the whole wave would be forgettable.

Sideways is great, and Excellion is pretty nice.

I really hope we get an Alpha Bravo selects repaint of Vortex, he looks good on superion

I never thought about an Alpha Bravo repaint ever existing, but you may be on to something.

EDIT: And Vortex actually fits on Superion.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:51 pm

Hero Alpha wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Got some of the new bots in lately.

Alchemist, Vortex, and Heatwave are all very mid. If it weren't for how cool skybyte is, the whole wave would be forgettable.

Sideways is great, and Excellion is pretty nice.

I really hope we get an Alpha Bravo selects repaint of Vortex, he looks good on superion

I never thought about an Alpha Bravo repaint ever existing, but you may be on to something.

EDIT: And Vortex actually fits on Superion.

I believe that's intentional, can't pass on a repaint!

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:21 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hero Alpha wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Got some of the new bots in lately.

Alchemist, Vortex, and Heatwave are all very mid. If it weren't for how cool skybyte is, the whole wave would be forgettable.

Sideways is great, and Excellion is pretty nice.

I really hope we get an Alpha Bravo selects repaint of Vortex, he looks good on superion

I never thought about an Alpha Bravo repaint ever existing, but you may be on to something.

EDIT: And Vortex actually fits on Superion.

I believe that's intentional, can't pass on a repaint!

Not only Alpha Bravo, but I'm also expecting a Blades retool/redeco out of the mold. I just can't see them making another different deluxe helicopter/combiner arm mold.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:47 am

Thu Mar 24, 2022

-Kanrabat- wrote:Good lord...

Why striving for CARTOON ACCURACY with a freaking GENERATIONS toy?
The beasts in Kingdom did it right by giving us a "cartoon accurate" bot mode but with a realistic altmode. Why not having Blitzwing having an accurate bot mode but with perfect altmodes? Without some mind-boggling EXTRA KIBBLE?

Mar 25, 2022

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:From all that I am reading Ryan, your opinion us majority rather than a minority. I am right there with you. I have found people that are fine with Blitzwing's tank being G1 to a fault but I found no one hoping that this is how it would look like.

I throw my vote in as well.

Having Legacy leader (LEADER) Blitzwing using faux-parts to achieve the crappy imperfect look of the G1 original is baffling and an insult.

With the leader budget, there's no excuses to not be able to make both a perfect tank and a perfect jet.
If 3P would design a "Blitzwing" in current Generations scale that would sell for less than 100$ it would be quite a flex on Hasbro/Takara.

With that said, I can now forgive Siege Astrotrain for having imperfect vehicle modes, but he's at least his own thing and the imperfect vehicles are still cohesive without using fake parts for uglyfication like Blitzwing.

Well well well. How's the turntables. :lol:

The mold is much, much more enjoyable than I anticipated. Plus, once you figure out how it works, it is surprisingly simple. Overcharge hide his thank kibble well in jet mode simply because the tank is in darker colors. I no longer hate the tank's "dick out" because it make me think about a knight in armor that have his package fully exposed and it's hilarious. And finally, thanks to the ridiculous mittens, I now have a

cheerleader team!
:APPLAUSE:

Oh, Gemini, you... :lol:

News Credits: 4850 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 02, 2025 11:09 pm

Venin is out and some fans, including myself, have made reviews. You can check them out below. Venin marks the last of the G1 deluxe Insecticons and Hasbro finished that set off with the only one to get a mold all to themselves. From the review below, you'll notice that it is a very odd toy though. The toy has come out in Canadian Walmarts along with the two remaining Aerialbots in the wave and Micronus Prime.

News Credits: 4850 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:37 am

Age of the Primes wave 3 is out and some fans, including myself, have made reviews of Micronus Prime, the latest Prime to be released. You can check out the videos below. From the review below, you'll notice that it is a very interesting deluxe as it is a minicon in a mech suit. The toy has come out in Canadian Walmarts along with the two remaining Aerialbots in the wave and Insecticon Venin.

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