The Energon Pub

[psj333]

So far, we've only seen Shifters thrown in so the writer can use a stock shapeshifter-attack plot, and I'm doubtful we'll get more than that.

That might be true. But let's just hope that at least Pseudo returns for Season 2, as Steeljaw has already released many Decepticons from Season 1. Will he ever released more of them to come?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I think we are really overthinking those dreams. they were not real: just a realization of the worst nightmares they could have, and Strongarm's worst nightmare is being arrested and breaking the rules, so it made sense.

[Lunatic Prime]

I think we are really overthinking those dreams. they were not real: just a realization of the worst nightmares they could have, and Strongarm's worst nightmare is being arrested and breaking the rules, so it made sense.

I think so, too. Maybe psj333's phantasy is running a bit wild
And why a second shapeshifter? One is totally enough.

[Va'al]

The official YouTube channel for the Transformers has uploaded a new teaser clip aimed at Australian fans, focusing on returning Autobot leader Optimus Prime, in time for the new season starting this week (in the US at least) - check it out embedded below, as we find out some of the big bot's new abilities and toy potentialities!

[PeterPrime]

Return of Polar Claw maybe

[psj333]

https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/pho ... 98/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

[Madeus Prime]

https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

[psj333]

Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Finally, if Hasbro stated that if the Decepticons for this series are animals that can turn into vehicles, then why are some animals in this series can turn into humans? For example, why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicle form which is an F1 racer-type dragster, and the rest of them have human forms? I'm not saying that I'm not a fan of characters who are animals that can change into humans. I'm just not a fan of their designs, that's all, for I'm interested in animals that can turn into vehicles, as I myself a huge fan of animals and cars.

[Lunatic Prime]

https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

He looks like Groundpounder, just with different colors and a new head, so he's the same vehicle as him. And the head looks like a mandrill or baboon.

Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

So, the half track we sam in the first season 02 trailer is that polar bear?! Would make sense and yes, he could be a remold of Steeljaw.

No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Did you really carefully read what Madeus Prime wrote?
Or do you just not understand it?

[Whifflefire]

*Watches Optimus randomly drive through side of bridge*
Isn't he supposed to be preventing needless destruction?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

*Watches Optimus randomly drive through side of bridge*
Isn't he supposed to be preventing needless destruction?

I think that part is mirrored from his dramatic entrance to fight Megatronus in the Season 1 finale

[Autobot Roadburn]

https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

He looks like Groundpounder, just with different colors and a new head, so he's the same vehicle as him. And the head looks like a mandrill or baboon.

Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

So, the half track we sam in the first season 02 trailer is that polar bear?! Would make sense and yes, he could be a remold of Steeljaw.

No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Did you really carefully read what Madeus Prime wrote?
Or do you just not understand it?

If it helps anything, I'm pretty sure this new guy is an orangutan. It's the distinctive saggy cheeks that gave it away for me, along with the overall proportions (as far as we can see).

[psj333]

If it helps anything, I'm pretty sure this new guy is an orangutan. It's the distinctive saggy cheeks that gave it away for me, along with the overall proportions (as far as we can see).

Well, thank you. I really do appreciated. But we'll see what kind of animal that he really is, once the show airs this weekend.

[Madeus Prime]

No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck.

Did I-? I did! I said it was his mold and design!! I never ONCE said it was Groundpounder, all I said was "Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold" And have you been paying attention to Transformers these days? An extensive repaint and remold is more likely than a new design.

But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

Finally, if Hasbro stated that if the Decepticons for this series are animals that can turn into vehicles, then why are some animals in this series can turn into humans? For example, why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicle form which is an F1 racer-type dragster, and the rest of them have human forms? I'm not saying that I'm not a fan of characters who are animals that can change into humans. I'm just not a fan of their designs, that's all, for I'm interested in animals that can turn into vehicles, as I myself a huge fan of animals and cars

Doesn't matter, Hasbro doesn't give a damn about inconsistencies. Also, technically in this universe, the Insecticons are a very specific form of Cybertronian, specifically the ones from Prime. And just possibly this version of Kickback isn't an Insecticon, omitting the forgotten connection to the WFC/FOC Universe.

Well, thank you. I really do appreciated. But we'll see what kind of animal that he really is, once the show airs this weekend.

He is an ape, an orangutan or a gorilla, there is no question of what animal he really is, you just need to study some basic taxonomy to figure out what you constantly ask us.

Oh and another thing, psj, we won't know ANYTHING about ANYTHING until the episodes with said characters you have oh so many questions about comes out. So, Overloaded part 1 and 2 won't answer anything for you, as all it'll do is somehow weaken Prime and introduce Overload with his Cyclones.

[psj333]

All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

Sure, I can exactly where you're from, now. The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats. That is why both Polar Claw and Steeljaw are similar in build. So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen. And when Optimus whacks Polar with his own pole, as Polar Claw is sent flying through the air, there seems to be another Con besides him, whom I'm curious to know what kind of animal he really is, since it's hard to tell from the trailer. And I'm not talking about Razorpaw. And since Quillfire is a porcupine, which is indeed a rodent, I suppose that any rodent Cybertronian would share a similar bodytype of Quillfire. I would love you to explain that to me.

Doesn't matter, Hasbro doesn't give a damn about inconsistencies. Also, technically in this universe, the Insecticons are a very specific form of Cybertronian, specifically the ones from Prime. And just possibly this version of Kickback isn't an Insecticon, omitting the forgotten connection to the WFC/FOC Universe.

I am not doing this for characters, but only for the toys. First off, Prime is not the first series to introduce Insecticons. In fact, Insecticons, go way back to G1. Hasbro officially confirmed that Kickback for RID is indeed a Insecticon. He was a grasshopper back then on Cybertron, but became a F1 dragster on Earth. He did this, because he felt it allows him to run from his enemies a lot quicker. Perhaps, this might explain why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicles while others don't. A new female Con, whose name is yet to be determined is rumoured to be a mosquito. But according to her design, her body and looks strikingly resembles that from Elita-1 from Animated and that below her trunks are two circles that are believed to be wheels. Does this mean she has a vehicle mode of sorts?

[Lunatic Prime]

All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

Sure, I can exactly where you're from, now. The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats. That is why both Polar Claw and Steeljaw are similar in build. So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen. And when Optimus whacks Polar with his own pole, as Polar Claw is sent flying through the air, there seems to be another Con besides him, whom I'm curious to know what kind of animal he really is, since it's hard to tell from the trailer. And I'm not talking about Razorpaw. And since Quillfire is a porcupine, which is indeed a rodent, I suppose that any rodent Cybertronian would share a similar bodytype of Quillfire. I would love you to explain that to me.

Your arguements do absolutely make no sense. You're just talking b u l l s h i t!!!

And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.


From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

[o.supreme]

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.[/color][/b]

Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

[psj333]

And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.

According to Hasbro sources, Quillfire is a porcupine and not a lizard, which is why he earned his name. First of all, lizards don't have quills, only porcupines and some birds do.

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

If you really do hate me for anything, that's your business, and not mine! And to the people who are criticizing me, I do believe that it is now time to be proud of who you are. Because when this is all over, haters are only going to do whatever it takes to get something that you want. But until then, instead of hating me for what I have, what I say, what I believe in, and for what I do, just go out and get it. Remember, you can hate me all you want, but you can't hate me simply just by asking for or standing up for something.

[Lunatic Prime]

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.[/color][/b]

Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

I'm just wondering what kind of logic he has.

[Lunatic Prime]

And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.

According to Hasbro sources, Quillfire is a porcupine and not a lizard, which is why he earned his name. First of all, lizards don't have quills, only porcupines and some birds do.

For example, has Age of Extinction Slog declared to be an Apotosaur although he clearly looks like a brachiosaurus.

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

If you really do hate me for anything, that's your business, and not mine! And to the people who are criticizing me, I do believe that it is now time to be proud of who you are. Because when this is all over, haters are only going to do whatever it takes to get something that you want. But until then, instead of hating me for what I have, what I say, what I believe in, and for what I do, just go out and get it. Remember, you can hate me all you want, but you can't hate me simply just by asking for or standing up for something.

I don't hate you, I just can't endure that nonsense you are writing anymore. It just makes no sense. For example to say would give all bots with rodent alt modes the same mold. In Beast Wars that might make sense. But not here!

I just wanted to finally clarify that I do NOT hate you. Last answer.

[psj333]

I don't hate you, I just can't endure that nonsense you are writing anymore. It just makes no sense. For example to say would give all bots with rodent alt modes the same mold. In Beast Wars that might make sense. But not here!

I just wanted to finally clarify that I do NOT hate you. Last answer.

Good, that's fine! But here is my message to all of my supporters out there:

Don't give a crap of what anyone else thinks, but stay true to yourself and be who you are, and that's what impresses people!

[Sabrblade]

Episode 27 (season 2 episode 1), "Overloaded, Part 1" aired this morning on Cartoon Network.

Since KissCartoon still doesn't have the episode up, see if this Dailymotion link works - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3tc9a2

[Madeus Prime]

The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats.

No, it's because they appear to share cartoon animation models with a good heaping of recoloring and remolding. Such as Groundpounder and the unknown ape 'Con. They look similar because of their ANIMATION MODEL, not because they are both carnivores. BTW, just so you know, bears are actually omnivores.

So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen.

We've seen it! It's the snowcat that Windblade is fighting, and my reasoning for this, which is founded on logic and not assumptions, is that we see the unknown polar bear 'Con fighting Optimus under glacial ice flows, which matches the terrain we see the snow cat in. Now, that snow cat, aside from the halftracks and the plow, seems to resemble Steeljaw's alternate mode. Now, I offer this question to the masses: Is my reasoning for making that assumption sound? I'd think it is.

I would love you to explain that to me.

Sure, let me get out my doctorate on advanced Cybertronian biology and zoology...

First off, Prime is not the first series to introduce Insecticons. In fact, Insecticons, go way back to G1.

Whaaat? I didn't know that?!

He was a grasshopper back then on Cybertron, but became a F1 dragster on Earth. He did this, because he felt it allows him to run from his enemies a lot quicker. Perhaps, this might explain why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicles while others don't.

Or maybe it's because Hasbro and the cartoon writers don't care about plot consistencies. And where did you get the info that he adopted that vehicle mode for that purpose? It's never stated in the show or officially, he just appears to be a snitch and a coward, has zero difference with what he turns into. Also, if you ever played the FOC game, you'd know that the Kickback in FOC is NOWHERE near the same as the RID incarnation. Different characters, by all intents and purposes.

Does this mean she has a vehicle mode of sorts

Hrm, guess what? WE DO NOT KNOW.

Good, that's fine! But here is my message to all of my supporters out there:Don't give a crap of what anyone else thinks, but stay true to yourself and be who you are, and that's what impresses people!

Psj333, I'm going to be no longer helping you from now on, as you seem to think your opinion reflects that of any and all fans of whatever current cartoon is on the air. Also, your attitude towards people who disagree with you seems to reflect that of which I was taught in health class (a bunch of hippie drama and feel-good nonsense). You are a grandstander when you feel attacked, but you can't see that your commentary and constant barrage of questions makes you a target for attack. Just take this piece of advice, which you won't, don't ask questions when the answers don't exist yet, this is a board for facts and discussion, not theorizing and lecturing about Shifters, character continuity, or alternate modes.

So, goodbye

Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

I'm mostly responsible for that , you have my apologies, I'm going to block him as well, it's just not worth arguing with somebody who asks questions and never takes anything away from the answers.

[RevTibe]

Episode 27 (season 2 episode 1), "Overloaded, Part 1" aired this morning on Cartoon Network.

Since KissCartoon still doesn't have the episode up, see if this Dailymotion link works - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3tc9a2

Thanks! Decent enough ep, felt a bit rushed/"just because" in places, but my opinion of it's going to mostly be defined by the quality of the stories it's setting up.

The blue mini-con's "attack mode" is totally giving me an Armada Dead End (Unicron's mini-con) vibe;

...come to think of it, the Cyclones are described as "chaotic", and aren't normally associated with 'bots or 'cons... /tinfoilhat

[psj333]

Psj333, I'm going to be no longer helping you from now on, as you seem to think your opinion reflects that of any and all fans of whatever current cartoon is on the air. Also, your attitude towards people who disagree with you seems to reflect that of which I was taught in health class (a bunch of hippie drama and feel-good nonsense). You are a grandstander when you feel attacked, but you can't see that your commentary and constant barrage of questions makes you a target for attack. Just take this piece of advice, which you won't, don't ask questions when the answers don't exist yet, this is a board for facts and discussion, not theorizing and lecturing about Shifters, character continuity, or alternate modes.

Look, correct me if I'm wrong, but I wasn't actually referring to you, just to clear that up. I was only referring to those who supported my views. You have to understand this, if our views don't respect yours, what you're going to do, block us for good? Is it? No, you cannot do that! You have to accept that. You have to realize that in this world, nobody and nothing rules.

I'm mostly responsible for that , you have my apologies, I'm going to block him as well, it's just not worth arguing with somebody who asks questions and never takes anything away from the answers.

You can block me if you want, but you cannot block me simply just by asking or standing up for something.