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Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.Optimizzy wrote:Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ugh. I could see that being the case.Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.
It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.
Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.
optibotimus wrote:Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.
I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion
Scottywan82 wrote:optibotimus wrote:Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.
I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion
Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.
Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.Optimizzy wrote:Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ugh. I could see that being the case.Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.
It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.
Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?
And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.Optimizzy wrote:Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ugh. I could see that being the case.Shuttershock wrote:Cobotron wrote:I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.
It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.
Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?
And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Edit to fix and say...
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.
If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?
And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Edit to fix and say...
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.
Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
carytheone wrote:I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.
carytheone wrote:It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.
If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?
And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Edit to fix and say...
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.
Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy
Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.
Shuttershock wrote:fenrir72 wrote:padfoo wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding
Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.
There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.
So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.
Well, there was that ONE time...
Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.
Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.
Nothing to see here, move along. Too many questions and the fiction falls apart. Just like scale only exists if you believe it does. You wouldn't want to be responsible for killing Tinkerbell would you?SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus???Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???
SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus???Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???
That Bot wrote:
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:That Bot wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Shuttershock wrote:fenrir72 wrote:padfoo wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding
Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.
There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.
So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.
Well, there was that ONE time...
Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.
Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.
If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus)![]()
william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
william-james88 wrote:I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.
One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.
steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.
I don't know, I feel like he wasn't doing something right in the transformation. That little clip on the waist should tab into SOMETHING I don't think they'd put it on there just for fun.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:That Bot wrote:
I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
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