-Kanrabat- wrote:
Final gripe: This movie IS NOT a Batman movie. Take out batman and put ANY action hero that do the exact same things and the movie would have remained inchanged. This "Batman" is a very awesome action movie. It just dont feel AT ALL like a Batman movie.
SlyTF1 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
Final gripe: This movie IS NOT a Batman movie. Take out batman and put ANY action hero that do the exact same things and the movie would have remained inchanged. This "Batman" is a very awesome action movie. It just dont feel AT ALL like a Batman movie.
TDK was the same way...
-Kanrabat- wrote:First, I hated that Batman got all "Spiderman 2" here. I just hate it when the superhero just give up and quit. ****, I want the hero to be heroic, not being human and depressed.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Next gripe. Catwoman IS NOT Catwoman. She's just a random catburglar but she's nothing like the iconic character.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Final gripe: This movie IS NOT a Batman movie. Take out batman and put ANY action hero that do the exact same things and the movie would have remained inchanged. This "Batman" is a very awesome action movie. It just dont feel AT ALL like a Batman movie.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Bonus gripe. Bane dont have his chemical that transform him into a big-ass mutant. Still that would not have worked in this world and Bane is awesome enough as he is.
-Kanrabat- wrote:One surprise. Everybody figure out that Batman is Bruce Wane. At last, some logic.
-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, the first two Batman of this series were TRUE Batman movies. It was ABOUT Batman being Batman doing Batman things.
Sigh... Do you know about Garfield Minus Garfield? This is what this movie felt for me. Batman Rise is Batman Minus Batman...
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Next gripe. Catwoman IS NOT Catwoman. She's just a random catburglar but she's nothing like the iconic character.
Hot badass chick in a skin-tight suit, special skill with sarcasm, and a reluctant tendency to sometimes do the right thing. What exactly did they miss?
RhA wrote:Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Next gripe. Catwoman IS NOT Catwoman. She's just a random catburglar but she's nothing like the iconic character.
Hot badass chick in a skin-tight suit, special skill with sarcasm, and a reluctant tendency to sometimes do the right thing. What exactly did they miss?
The stupid cat-ears? I hate the stupid cat-ears and this movie was better for not actually having them.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:First, I hated that Batman got all "Spiderman 2" here. I just hate it when the superhero just give up and quit. ****, I want the hero to be heroic, not being human and depressed.
You clearly do not know Batman as well as you think. Maybe the Adam West variation, but not The Dark Knight. Being dark and brooding is half the character.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Next gripe. Catwoman IS NOT Catwoman. She's just a random catburglar but she's nothing like the iconic character.
Hot badass chick in a skin-tight suit, special skill with sarcasm, and a reluctant tendency to sometimes do the right thing. What exactly did they miss?
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Final gripe: This movie IS NOT a Batman movie. Take out batman and put ANY action hero that do the exact same things and the movie would have remained inchanged. This "Batman" is a very awesome action movie. It just dont feel AT ALL like a Batman movie.
You can do that with just about any piece of Batman fiction. It's having Batman there that makes it good.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Bonus gripe. Bane dont have his chemical that transform him into a big-ass mutant. Still that would not have worked in this world and Bane is awesome enough as he is.
It's called Venom and no, it would not have made sense. They replaced it with an anesthetic that dramatically increases his tolerance to pain, thus allowing himself to push himself even harder, at least, and Batman disables him just like he would disable Bane in the comics.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:One surprise. Everybody figure out that Batman is Bruce Wane. At last, some logic.
I felt it was the opposite of logic, Blake figuring it out came right out of left field and they never fully explain it. Bane had the intel from the League of Shadows, Catwoman learned from Bane most likely, and Gordon was basically told by Batman up-front, so that at least made sense. But Blake knowing because he could tell Bruce was faking a smile is just silly.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, the first two Batman of this series were TRUE Batman movies. It was ABOUT Batman being Batman doing Batman things.
Sigh... Do you know about Garfield Minus Garfield? This is what this movie felt for me. Batman Rise is Batman Minus Batman...
While I understand your gripe about Batman being absent from a large portion of the movie, the rest of it was vintage Batman, much moreso than The Dark Knight which could very well have been Joker The Movie. Outside of the portion where Bruce was stuck in the Pit, they focused way more on Batman in this, and the idea of needing Batman, and Batman as a symbol rather than a vigilante is discussed here much more than it is in the last movies.
Burn wrote:(...)
so Catwoman was stripped back to the basics, a cat burgular.
-Kanrabat- wrote:The joke going around is that it's incredible that no one in Gotham put 2&2 together and figure out that the mysterious masked vigilante that have an infinite bujet with his hyper pricey gatjets is that billionaire that may have a grudge against criminals. At least, someone could have figured out that Bruce Wayne was at least Batman's sponsor.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't have much to say against that, appart "WHERE IS BATMAN IN MY BATMAN MOVIE?!" :crying:
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:The joke going around is that it's incredible that no one in Gotham put 2&2 together and figure out that the mysterious masked vigilante that have an infinite bujet with his hyper pricey gatjets is that billionaire that may have a grudge against criminals. At least, someone could have figured out that Bruce Wayne was at least Batman's sponsor.
Never heard that one before. I've heard it about Superman countless times, but never once about Batman.
And Bruce takes great care is making both personalities seem so vastly different that no one could tell they're the same. Batman is angry, vicious, and brooding, while Bruce Wayne is an aloof, eccentric billionaire who spends more time spending his trust fund on cars and awesome penthouses and supermodels then he does on taking care of his parents company. In the comics, at least one villain (Either Joker or the Riddler, I can't remember which) found out Bruce Wayne was Batman...only to immediately disregard it because of how outlandish it seems.
-Kanrabat- wrote:The one that DID find out was that computer program Doctor Strange created. It went rogue, found a body, and proceed to hunt down Batman. By simple deductions, the robot foud Batman at Bruce's manor. The robot eventually self-destructed or something after Batman made some mind-games with it. The other is the Riddler, who came really close by playing "Akinator" with a captured Batman. Both are episodes from "The Batman".
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
-Kanrabat- wrote:In the other movies, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face survived the more realistic transition.
Burn wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:In the other movies, Scarecrow, Joker, and Two Face survived the more realistic transition.
Remind me again of The Joker's origins in DKR compared to his comic book origins ...
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