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1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

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1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:00 pm

HMW1 will be around a little while longer. Let's give the cons a good fight until the end. In order to foster interest in the game for the Autobot cause, I have decided to host another competition. The prizes will be the same as round 1:

1st place: €200,000
2nd place: €150,000
3rd place: €100,000
4th place: €50,000

The remaining €500,000 will be divided equally between all who register with and participate in the competition.

We can use the same rules for round 1, or we can come up with a different set or rules. Regardless, the game should be:

* structured so that lower level bots have an equal chance at winning as the higher level bots
* easy to calculate the score.

Give me your thoughts! Only two people signed up last time and only one person submitted a score. That person received €450,000. Below were the rules for round 1:

revengeofstarscream wrote:OK, so the slingshot idea obviously has some momentum. So, I propose an idea which is an amalgam of what has been discussed.

1) Point system:
Although a point system can be a pain in the ass to calculate, I think it is necessary in order to establish criteria that gives bots of all levels the opportunity to compete and win.

2) Single mission performance:
The winner will be determined based on the best single mission performed by a player, rather than taking the aggregate of missions over time. I don't have time to compute a bunch of scores. The point system will simply take too long for the individual players to calculate for each and every mission. Since only the best mission will be counted, if your bot does not score many kills for a given mission, you don't have to calculate the points for it. If your bot scores several kills, then you probably want to go ahead and calculate the points for it.

3) Kill-shot points:
Points are only accrued for kill-shots. Only kill-shots count. Even if you damaged a con down to %1 of life, if you do not score the kill-shot, it does not count.

4) Slingshot bonus:
If you score a kill with a slingshot, then you will receive a slingshot bonus. This will help the lower level bots even more, since they don't have access to powerful weapons anyway. The slingshot bonus DOES NOT COUNT if you score a kill using a tactic. Strafe and ramming kill-shots will not receive the slingshot bonus even if your bot happens to be armed with a slingshot. This will make things fair between strafers and rammers.



The points per kill-shot will be calculated as follows:

1) add 5 points
2) subtract your level
3) add the level of your opponent
4) add 5 points if slingshot was used to score the kill (excluding tactics)

Examples:

L0 kills an L2 WITH slingshot:

1) + 5 points
2) - 0 points
3) + 2 points
4) + 5 points
Total: 12 points


L4 kills an L2 WITHOUT slingshot:

1) + 5 points
2) - 4 points
3) + 2 points
4) + 0 points
Total: 3 points


I think this should level the playing field between higher and lower level bots.
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:12 pm

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sounds good count me in, the maths seem a bit to complex though should just be 1 point for a kill in a 0-3 mission from a chosen range, but need some way of compensating for people who play alot
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:04 am

Zordon wrote:sounds good count me in, the maths seem a bit to complex though should just be 1 point for a kill in a 0-3 mission from a chosen range, but need some way of compensating for people who play alot

I agree. It is a lot to calculate. That is why I figured players should not bother computing their score unless they believe they have scored a lot of kills for a given mission. It also gives people the ability to compete who do not necessarily play a lot.

I am completely open to suggestions and other ideas.

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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Neo Crusader Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:31 am

revengeofstarscream wrote:
Zordon wrote:sounds good count me in, the maths seem a bit to complex though should just be 1 point for a kill in a 0-3 mission from a chosen range, but need some way of compensating for people who play alot

I agree. It is a lot to calculate. That is why I figured players should not bother computing their score unless they believe they have scored a lot of kills for a given mission. It also gives people the ability to compete who do not necessarily play a lot.

I am completely open to suggestions and other ideas.

-RoS


how about teams of two - one casual and one 'serious' player per team?
i agree with zordon about 1 point per kill, but to incorporate the 'bonus point' aspect a kill with a certain weapon/tactic could be used. possibly even a negative value for deaths (surviving would not give a bonus)? eg 1 point for the kill + 1 bonus point for an unarmed kill + survived mission = +2

thoughts?
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:02 pm

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why not change the whole kill listing /point etc etc. into a treasure hunt list ?
no need to track points and do maths just get a list of 10 treasures or so and you could do it in rounds and keep making it harder:
round one
10 treasures to find 2 weeks to do it top 10 go through
round 2
10 treasures to find 1 week top 3 go through
final round
10 to find 5 days
prizes paid out as per your prize chart
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:20 pm

Zordon wrote:why not change the whole kill listing /point etc etc. into a treasure hunt list ?
no need to track points and do maths just get a list of 10 treasures or so and you could do it in rounds and keep making it harder:
round one
10 treasures to find 2 weeks to do it top 10 go through
round 2
10 treasures to find 1 week top 3 go through
final round
10 to find 5 days
prizes paid out as per your prize chart

That also sounds good. What would the treasures be? If we can even get 10 people to sign up I will consider this a success!
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:49 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:That also sounds good. What would the treasures be? If we can even get 10 people to sign up I will consider this a success!

you heard the man, fellow autobots and maximals sign in below with some ideas for a treasure to hunt
to start you off:
get the killing ram on a flying alt,
last man standing (must be at least 3 on 3)
beat the odds (must be more 2 cons than bots in the mission and still survive)
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Electron Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:12 pm

i'm up for a treasure hunt, but i will keep my suggestions for another time

count me in if its on

you got to make sure targets are accessible e.g:

- lower level teams can get at them
- the target plays there team quite often, no point in looking for an no show-er
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Neo Crusader Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:16 am

Zordon wrote:
revengeofstarscream wrote:That also sounds good. What would the treasures be? If we can even get 10 people to sign up I will consider this a success!

you heard the man, fellow autobots and maximals sign in below with some ideas for a treasure to hunt
to start you off:
get the killing ram on a flying alt,
last man standing (must be at least 3 on 3)
beat the odds (must be more 2 cons than bots in the mission and still survive)


i'm also in.

how about :
double kill (2 kills in 1 mission)
unarmed kill
kill an ex-beast faction character
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Psychout Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:37 am

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revengeofstarscream wrote:I am completely open to suggestions and other ideas.
Hope you don't mind me intruding, this is a great idea RoS, but if you want to keep it fair for those who all play different amounts, I suggest dividing the points earned by the number of missions posted. i.e. if 'bot A posts 9 battles to score 18 points, and 'bot B posts 7 battles scoring 17 points, bot B would have the higher average and win.
Think the averaging method used in the SPL.

Anyway its just a suggestion. Good luck in your tourney whatever you decide guys. :D
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:19 pm

Psychout wrote:
revengeofstarscream wrote:I am completely open to suggestions and other ideas.
Hope you don't mind me intruding, this is a great idea RoS, but if you want to keep it fair for those who all play different amounts...

Yep, that was the premise behind the first set of rules for the first competition, but unfortunately the calculations required to compute the score dissuaded people from playing.

Guys, I am absolutely getting swamped at work and I don't want to be a bottle neck for this tournament. Would one of you mind volunteering to finalize the rules? It sounds like there is momentum behind the treasure hunt idea.

Basically, I need someone to finalize the rules by summarizing what has been agreed upon thus far and post here on a semi regular basis to keep the momentum going. I would be willing to give this person some extra energon (say 100K?) to help with this process.

I am completely buried at work. It does not take any mental effort for me to play HMW, but posting something semi intelligent requires my brain to perform a context switch from my software development tasks. After I read the boards and make some posts, it takes some time for my brain to mentally switch gears back into coding the project I am working on. I have some pretty serious deadlines coming up that I absolutely cannot afford to miss.

Any volunteers?

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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:36 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
Psychout wrote:
revengeofstarscream wrote:I am completely open to suggestions and other ideas.
Hope you don't mind me intruding, this is a great idea RoS, but if you want to keep it fair for those who all play different amounts...

Yep, that was the premise behind the first set of rules for the first competition, but unfortunately the calculations required to compute the score dissuaded people from playing.

Guys, I am absolutely getting swamped at work and I don't want to be a bottle neck for this tournament. Would one of you mind volunteering to finalize the rules? It sounds like there is momentum behind the treasure hunt idea.

Basically, I need someone to finalize the rules by summarizing what has been agreed upon thus far and post here on a semi regular basis to keep the momentum going. I would be willing to give this person some extra energon (say 100K?) to help with this process.

I am completely buried at work. It does not take any mental effort for me to play HMW, but posting something semi intelligent requires my brain to perform a context switch from my software development tasks. After I read the boards and make some posts, it takes some time for my brain to mentally switch gears back into coding the project I am working on. I have some pretty serious deadlines coming up that I absolutely cannot afford to miss.

Any volunteers?

-RoS


i will volunteer to be the "admin" for this treasure hunt, (i had post 3 get 3 take over and issue 3 one going in the GD last year) and can iron out some of the rule etc from that, unless anyone has objections ??

i will come back with a list of rules/sign up start date and a set of 10 treasures for the first round tomorrow (tuesday)
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:41 pm

Zordon wrote:i will volunteer to be the "admin" for this treasure hunt, (i had post 3 get 3 take over and issue 3 one going in the GD last year) and can iron out some of the rule etc from that, unless anyone has objections ??

i will come back with a list of rules/sign up start date and a set of 10 treasures for the first round tomorrow (tuesday)

Great! Unless there is a deluge of objections, the job is yours!
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:31 am

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
Zordon wrote:i will volunteer to be the "admin" for this treasure hunt, (i had post 3 get 3 take over and issue 3 one going in the GD last year) and can iron out some of the rule etc from that, unless anyone has objections ??

i will come back with a list of rules/sign up start date and a set of 10 treasures for the first round tomorrow (tuesday)

Great! Unless there is a deluge of objections, the job is yours!


great but might be delayed on the rules and treasures side till later in the week, real life getting in the way, if anyone else wants to join up that is not above please let us know your interested. im posting a link in the GD back to here
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:41 pm

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so far i think we have the following thats signed up:

Electron
Neo Crusader
Absolute Zero
Zordon (im doing it for fun but mine wont count)
EDIT:
+ Raphael Prime

i will be keeping the sign up open until 12 midnight (gmt) on sunday so if anyone else wants to pop there entry in below just click on the ol'post reply button.

i will list the hunt on monday morning and choose a mission and arena number that will land around 12 midday on monday. the first round will finish 1 week later and provided we get more parcipitants the first 3 to PM me when there list is done will go through to round 2.

i will make another post later in week with the full rules, post below with any questions/sign ups
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Raphael Prime Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:35 pm

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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:04 pm

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Raphael Prime wrote:I'm in.

:) added above
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:55 pm

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just a heads up guys,
the mods have offered an any alt prize for the first place team for one of there team members, as well as RoS's energon.
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:48 pm

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ok guys this will start about 12 noon GMT tomorrow (monday) in a fresh thread i will list the rules and treasures then.

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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by DCybertron Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:01 pm

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What, 1,000,000 Energon?! I need to play this more.
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:31 am

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DCybertron wrote:What, 1,000,000 Energon?! I need to play this more.

you in ?? the door will be closed once the treasures go up
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by DCybertron Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:56 pm

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Zordon wrote:
DCybertron wrote:What, 1,000,000 Energon?! I need to play this more.

you in ?? the door will be closed once the treasures go up

Nah. Schools such a pain that i cant participate.
EDIT: Maybe. I just read that it will be divided equally.
EDIT 2.0: Wheres my stats?! I need them!
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Zordon Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:57 pm

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DCybertron wrote:
Zordon wrote:
DCybertron wrote:What, 1,000,000 Energon?! I need to play this more.

you in ?? the door will be closed once the treasures go up

Nah. Schools such a pain that i cant participate.
EDIT: Maybe. I just read that it will be divided equally.
EDIT 2.0: Wheres my stats?! I need them!


the treasures have been posted so you cant enter for any of the prize money, however if you do take part i maybe able to get a little energon for you just list you takedowns in the claim thread
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by Naked Magnus Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:18 pm

Zordon wrote:
DCybertron wrote:
Zordon wrote:
DCybertron wrote:What, 1,000,000 Energon?! I need to play this more.

you in ?? the door will be closed once the treasures go up

Nah. Schools such a pain that i cant participate.
EDIT: Maybe. I just read that it will be divided equally.
EDIT 2.0: Wheres my stats?! I need them!


the treasures have been posted so you cant enter for any of the prize money, however if you do take part i maybe able to get a little energon for you just list you takedowns in the claim thread

Since you expressed interest in the game almost in time to play, I am OK with giving you part of the 500K that will be divided among the players who signed up, so long as you post your results. That is, of course, if Zordon does not object. It will be his call. Even though it is my energon, it will be his decision who gets it since he is managing this tournament.
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Re: 1,000,000 Energon Giveaway Round 2!!!

Posted by DCybertron Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:45 pm

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So,wheres the claim thread?
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