Sabrblade wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Ultra Magnus wrote:#Star Saber
i was thinking that too
Sabrblade wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Ultra Magnus wrote:#Star Saber
i was thinking that too
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
YRQRM0 wrote:No one is mentioning how well guns were handled in TF Prime? I like how they did something, but they were so weak that the characters could take the hit and still run up and start fighting with melee. I also liked how they actually had to make some effort to dodge the blasts, unlike in TFTM where the Decepticons literally just walk away as the autobots fire.
Manterax Prime wrote:If there's one thing we don't need in the TF movies, it's another bloody star saber.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
It's not that there's too many (but there is indeed a bunch), it's that the "Magic god sword" concept of the bloody thing is so overrated and pretty much godmodes anyone who uses it (unless their opponent wields another magical MacGuffin weapon that similarly godmodes its wielder).PrymeStriker wrote:Manterax Prime wrote:If there's one thing we don't need in the TF movies, it's another bloody star saber.
Many people say the same thing about Bumblebee and humans in the movies (or in general). Guess what keeps coming back?
Besides, the only Star Sabers that appeared on a screen in the US were the ones in Armada and Prime (and by moniker, Animated). They're just a little more recurring in Transformers fiction than Scrounge.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Just noticed that the file name calls it "the Cyber Sword" (or "thecybersowrd" [sic]). Wonder if that'll be the final name.
Or, maybe it might have a name that reflects its dual sword-gun function.
Sabrblade wrote:it's that the "Magic god sword" concept of the bloody thing is so overrated and pretty much godmodes anyone who uses it (unless their opponent wields another magical MacGuffin weapon that similarly godmodes its wielder).
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Well, if it's not gonna be the almighty Star Saber, then what's the point in even using the name?PrymeStriker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:it's that the "Magic god sword" concept of the bloody thing is so overrated and pretty much godmodes anyone who uses it (unless their opponent wields another magical MacGuffin weapon that similarly godmodes its wielder).
Unless they intend to give it some sort of setback in the film.
Michael Bay's already made characters different from their source material, why not the Star Saber?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, if it's not gonna be the almighty Star Saber, then what's the point in even using the name?
I doubt Hasbro would want fans of the Prime cartoon watching this movie and thinking "Why is the Star Saber so puny and pitiful in this movie?"
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
The matter would be that it'd also take away from the suspense of the film, with it being obvious that the thing would resolve all conflicts at once sooner or later. It's the very nature of an anti-climatic deus ex machina.PrymeStriker wrote:So, what would the matter be if the Star Saber was used to resolve the conflict 10 minutes to the end of the movie?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The matter would be that it'd also take away from the suspense of the film, with it being obvious that the thing would resolve all conflicts at once sooner or later. It's the very nature of an anti-climatic deus ex machina.PrymeStriker wrote:So, what would the matter be if the Star Saber was used to resolve the conflict 10 minutes to the end of the movie?
I've no problem with powerful swords so long as they're not so far above average as to be "the most powerful sword in the universe" or some such levels of perfection.
Besides, we've seen both Wahlberg and Reynor using this kind of weapon, so there could be more than one (which would kind of destract from the special nature that the Star Saber tends to have).
Interesting idea.njb902 wrote:Isn't Wahlberg 's character supposed to be some kind of inventor? If that is the case this "gunblade" may not even be Cybertronain in origin.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Interesting idea.njb902 wrote:Isn't Wahlberg 's character supposed to be some kind of inventor? If that is the case this "gunblade" may not even be Cybertronain in origin.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Interesting idea.njb902 wrote:Isn't Wahlberg 's character supposed to be some kind of inventor? If that is the case this "gunblade" may not even be Cybertronain in origin.
Thing is, it has some Cybertronian makings on it. Why would he feel the need to carve those on his invention? Maybe it's something he replicated from the original in order to fool the Decepticons or evil humans?
Either way, there would still have to be an original Cybertonian "gunblade" thing.
Or perhaps something he modified from another Cybertonian artifact, hence the markings?
njb902 wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Interesting idea.njb902 wrote:Isn't Wahlberg 's character supposed to be some kind of inventor? If that is the case this "gunblade" may not even be Cybertronain in origin.
Thing is, it has some Cybertronian makings on it. Why would he feel the need to carve those on his invention? Maybe it's something he replicated from the original in order to fool the Decepticons or evil humans?
Either way, there would still have to be an original Cybertonian "gunblade" thing.
Or perhaps something he modified from another Cybertonian artifact, hence the markings?
Why would there need to be an original "gunblade"? Humans have had access to Cybertronain technology for decades. Is it hard to believe that an engineer couldn't adapt their tech into a weapon a human could use?
As for why it has Cybertronain markings there are any number of possibilities. He could have been honoring part of its origins, he could be ocd, the Autobots/Decepticons could have made him, I could be wrong, the materials he obtained could have already had the markings stamped into them. Ect ect.
I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just a theory, time will tell.
njb902 wrote: the materials he obtained could have already had the markings stamped into them
TurboMMaster wrote:I don't think it is main characterąs invention. After all, what is a point of human create a gunblade based on Cybertronian technology, I quess it is yet another Cybertronian relic... Star Saber perhaps?
TurboMMaster wrote:Did they need such kind of weapon in previous movies? Remember that humans are stronger part of Humans-Autobots aliance. They protect Autobots from certain death. All what the need is few well trained soldiers. Autobots have no chance against them.
njb902 wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Did they need such kind of weapon in previous movies? Remember that humans are stronger part of Humans-Autobots aliance. They protect Autobots from certain death. All what the need is few well trained soldiers. Autobots have no chance against them.
Yeah I'm sure all the people who lost loved ones in Chicago thought the military was just so prepared to deal with Cybertronains. I also know I'd just love to go up against walking tanks with conventional small arms.
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