Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SlyTF1 wrote:Devastator is his own separate being in the movie universe. Nothing in the movie ever implies that the other Constructicons are connected to Devastator at all. Other than the fact that they transform into construction vehicles.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Evil_the_Nub wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Devastator is his own separate being in the movie universe. Nothing in the movie ever implies that the other Constructicons are connected to Devastator at all. Other than the fact that they transform into construction vehicles.
This makes the most sense to me. Devastator was formed from I think 9 construction vehicles that are never shown to have individual robot modes. Plus the Green dump truck is totally different from the one Long Haul transforms into. The whole interchangeable thing was, I believe, made up by Hasbro as an excuse to make the variety of inaccurate Devastator toys plausibly accurate. "Sure one has 6 vehicles and another has 7 with robot modes. Devastator can combine however the hell he wants to so buy them both!"
Sabrblade wrote:There probably wasn't enough of the extra Constructicons who fought individually in that battle to form a second Devastator. Of those who did fight on their own in that fight, we saw Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage, and Scrapper. Just those four might not have been enough.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Noideaforaname wrote:The way they focused in on the concrete mixer's Decepti-dog hood ornament (and the similar way they established the bunch of construction vehicles) before both Megatron's revival and Devastator's combination (the two big COnstructicon scenes) strongly implies that those are the same bots in both instances. Not to mention all the concept art and toys and every other shred of media outright states that's supposed to be the case as well, and the fact that Devy is traditionally made up of the Constructicons (and before you say anything, not that Optimus is still a truck and Autobot leader, and that Starscream is still a jet and Decepticon #2). I really doubt Devastator was designed as anything but a gestalt of a specific group of Cons.
I assume the writer's strike and perhaps budget completely borked up the intent. Either the script got reworked and nobody caught the plot hole of the Constructicons being in two places at once -or- somebody decided to use the Constructicons as "extras" (as they did with Blackout and Bonecrusher) without thinking anyone would catch on.
Sabrblade wrote:There probably wasn't enough of the extra Constructicons who fought individually in that battle to form a second Devastator. Of those who did fight on their own in that fight, we saw Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage, and Scrapper. Just those four might not have been enough.
Noideaforaname wrote:The way they focused in on the concrete mixer's Decepti-dog hood ornament (and the similar way they established the bunch of construction vehicles) before both Megatron's revival and Devastator's combination (the two big COnstructicon scenes) strongly implies that those are the same bots in both instances. Not to mention all the concept art and toys and every other shred of media outright states that's supposed to be the case as well, and the fact that Devy is traditionally made up of the Constructicons (and before you say anything, not that Optimus is still a truck and Autobot leader, and that Starscream is still a jet and Decepticon #2). I really doubt Devastator was designed as anything but a gestalt of a specific group of Cons.
I assume the writer's strike and perhaps budget completely borked up the intent. Either the script got reworked and nobody caught the plot hole of the Constructicons being in two places at once -or- somebody decided to use the Constructicons as "extras" (as they did with Blackout and Bonecrusher) without thinking anyone would catch on.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There probably wasn't enough of the extra Constructicons who fought individually in that battle to form a second Devastator. Of those who did fight on their own in that fight, we saw Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage, and Scrapper. Just those four might not have been enough.
How about fewer Constructicons forming a smaller Devastator, like in RiD it took only 4 members of the Build Team to form Landfill. So if they pick the right combination of alt modes it would be possible to form a "Devastator Jr."
And Dagon, I know everyone has his/her own opinion on anything Transformers, and I also know RoTF didn't have any positives other than the fight scenes and the CG visuals, but Devastator being the best part of the film...?
Already addressed that in the third paragraph of my post.Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There probably wasn't enough of the extra Constructicons who fought individually in that battle to form a second Devastator. Of those who did fight on their own in that fight, we saw Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage, and Scrapper. Just those four might not have been enough.
How about fewer Constructicons forming a smaller Devastator, like in RiD it took only 4 members of the Build Team to form Landfill. So if they pick the right combination of alt modes it would be possible to form a "Devastator Jr."
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SlyTF1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:And Dagon, I know everyone has his/her own opinion on anything Transformers, and I also know RoTF didn't have any positives other than the fight scenes and the CG visuals, but Devastator being the best part of the film...?
You know that for a fact, do you? I can think of plenty of other positives.
Sabrblade wrote:Already addressed that in the third paragraph of my post.Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There probably wasn't enough of the extra Constructicons who fought individually in that battle to form a second Devastator. Of those who did fight on their own in that fight, we saw Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage, and Scrapper. Just those four might not have been enough.
How about fewer Constructicons forming a smaller Devastator, like in RiD it took only 4 members of the Build Team to form Landfill. So if they pick the right combination of alt modes it would be possible to form a "Devastator Jr."
Dagon wrote:But, my question initially was, IF several construction vehicle Decepticons are all that's needed to form Devastator, and there are, as established in the wake of the movie, multiple construction vehicle Decepticons, why wouldn't there be two or three Devastators instead of just one? If it took a few Autobots and a naval rail gun to stop one, two or three Devastators would be near impossible to stop, I'd think.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
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