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On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
THAT I had no problem with because it's supposed to be a dumb name. Wembley and/or Joshua said it was a focus grouped name, which means it's meant to sound lame as a jab from the movie towards focus groups.JazZeke wrote:(Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
That really bugged me too. Are we really supposed to believe humans could build better Transformers than the Transformers themselves? (Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)
Regarding the headline, I'm downright shocked that this movie managed to beat out Guardians of the Galaxy. GotG was by no means a perfect movie, but it was miles smarter and more original than AoE. Plus Gunn proved that you can have a movie where CGI characters get just as much focus and character development as the human actors.
Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
They created the process and made it work with zero negative consequences. Sounds perfected to me.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
They didn't "perfect," anything. Them breaking down into their base particles in order to transform isn't perfected. That's primitive, at best. It may be more useful for combat purposes, but far from perfected.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
You kiddin'? Loopholes are what these filmmakers seem to love most (after excessive carnage and needless adult humor, that is).Lockdownhunter wrote:Let us hope that TF5 will be even better with almost no loopholes!![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.
Sabrblade wrote:Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.
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Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Sabrblade wrote:Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.
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bolding mineAutobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!
Amazon has released its lineup of movies and TV shows that will be available for streaming come June 2015. During those hot summer days, Amazon Prime members will be able to enjoy titles like "Transformers: Age of Extinction," "The Shining," "Lucky Number Slevin" and Season 5 of "Covert Affairs."
Amazon Prime titles
June 1
"The Shining"
"Roman Holiday"
"Apocalypse Now"
"Apocalypse Now Redux"
"Something Wild" (1986)
"Sid & Nancy"
"Sucker Punch"
"Troll"
"Troll 2"
"Rep: The Genetic Opera"
"The Island of Dr. Moreau"
"Seven Psychopaths"
"The Paper Chase"
"People Will Talk"
"Far From Home: The Adventures of Yellow Dog"
"Murder of a Cat"
"Nine Months"
"Word and Pictures"
June 12
"Life of Crime"
June 13
"Transformers: Age of Extinction"
June 15
"Leprechaun: Origins"
June 19
"A Most Wanted Man"
June 22
"Lucky Number Slevin"
June 24
"Covert Affairs," Season 5
June 26
"Katy Perry: The Prismatic World Tour"
June 27
"The Mist"
The main question is, Why Galvatron didn't do anything by himself during Hong Kong scene, he isn't easy to be damaged, and he showed already that he is strong enough to fight with Prime. Yet again he let his mindless drones get the job done, whey never learned that this can't work don't they.Insurgent wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.
That's because the drones weren't sentient. Or at least were just rudimentary intelligent. They didn't have the mental ability to use themselves in that way. However, Galvatron did, as seen during the motorway chase when Bee shot at him under the bridge. But Galvatron didn't do anything in the final fight.
I do agree though, I do not like the flying pixel transformation. Except for when Galvatron used it in combat. I admit, that was sweet.
TurboMMaster wrote:The main question is, Why Galvatron didn't do anything by himself during Hong Kong scene, he isn't easy to be damaged, and he showed already that he is strong enough to fight with Prime. Yet again he let his mindless drones get the job done, whey never learned that this can't work don't they.Insurgent wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.
That's because the drones weren't sentient. Or at least were just rudimentary intelligent. They didn't have the mental ability to use themselves in that way. However, Galvatron did, as seen during the motorway chase when Bee shot at him under the bridge. But Galvatron didn't do anything in the final fight.
I do agree though, I do not like the flying pixel transformation. Except for when Galvatron used it in combat. I admit, that was sweet.
Imagine how mucha Decepticons could be effective, without "Megatron/Galvatron is only sitting and giving order" rule
Optimum Supreme wrote:bolding mineAutobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!
Wow, it beat a movie that wasn't even in wide release at all in 2014 and only in limited released for a week? Impressive!
Beardy wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:bolding mineAutobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!
Wow, it beat a movie that wasn't even in wide release at all in 2014 and only in limited released for a week? Impressive!
1 - Transformers: Age of Extinction Paramount Pictures $1,091,404,499
2 - The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Warner Bros. / New Line Cinema / MGM $955,113,783
3 - Guardians of the Galaxy Marvel Studios $774,176,600
4 - Maleficent Walt Disney Pictures $758,654,942
5 - The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1 Lionsgate Films $752,100,229
6 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 20th Century Fox $748,121,534
7 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier Marvel Studios $714,766,572
8 - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Columbia Pictures $709,582,323
9 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 20th Century Fox $708,835,589
10 - Interstellar Paramount Pictures / Warner Bros. $672,974,414
Lego and Sniper don't feature on the list for obvious reasons...
Age of Extinction beat all of these movies which were on wide release last year. Clearly.
In comparison to most of those films in the list, I did not like AOE as much - but the figures speak for themselves.
It's also the 12th highest grossing film of all time. No other film from 2014 is even in the top 20 highest grossing films...
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