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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:02 pm

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Different subject. Does anybody want to know why the CG in all 4 Transformers movies look terrible?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:39 pm

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OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Different subject. Does anybody want to know why the CG in all 4 Transformers movies look terrible?

Because they're not? I can only speak for the first three films but the CGI is pretty good in my opinion. I hope your not trying to start something either :x
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:55 pm

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I just noticed that we're at 55 pages and I've been contributing to this thread despite having still not yet given my full thoughts about the movie.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:02 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:I just noticed that we're at 55 pages and I've been contributing to this thread despite having still not yet given my full thoughts about the movie.


I find this post incredibly insightful. >:oP
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:10 pm

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just noticed that we're at 55 pages and I've been contributing to this thread despite having still not yet given my full thoughts about the movie.


I find this post incredibly insightful. >:oP
I still plan to, though. Blasted reality keeps getting in the way.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:17 pm

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just noticed that we're at 55 pages and I've been contributing to this thread despite having still not yet given my full thoughts about the movie.


I find this post incredibly insightful. >:oP
I still plan to, though. Blasted reality keeps getting in the way.

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:53 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Different subject. Does anybody want to know why the CG in all 4 Transformers movies look terrible?

Because they're not? I can only speak for the first three films but the CGI is pretty good in my opinion. I hope your not trying to start something either :x


If you have watched the four Transformers movies (Transformers [2007] may be an exception because it's not as noticeable) the Transformers, especially Optimus Prime and Bumblebee look like crumpled trash cans. In my opinion, the first movie had the best CGI because the Autobots' vehicle parts in their robot modes look like they are made of actual metal. But in the end of DOTM, Optimus appears as if he has been rendered poorly. Another problem is the fact that Bumblebee transforms into a damaged robot mode, but a shiny, spotless vehicle mode. And another problem is that the designs for the Transformers are too much. Basic robot mode designs should be used because technology has not advanced to the point where highly designed CGI looks realistic in a real environments. So if the Transformers had basic robot designs, less detail, more vehicle parts, realistic lighting, and metallic looking vehicle parts in robot mode, the movies would have won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects.

Just think about it. :-?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:59 pm

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OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Another problem is the fact that Bumblebee transforms into a damaged robot mode, but a shiny, spotless vehicle mode.
That was already addressed years ago.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:42 pm

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OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Different subject. Does anybody want to know why the CG in all 4 Transformers movies look terrible?

Because they're not? I can only speak for the first three films but the CGI is pretty good in my opinion. I hope your not trying to start something either :x


If you have watched the four Transformers movies (Transformers [2007] may be an exception because it's not as noticeable) the Transformers, especially Optimus Prime and Bumblebee look like crumpled trash cans. In my opinion, the first movie had the best CGI because the Autobots' vehicle parts in their robot modes look like they are made of actual metal. But in the end of DOTM, Optimus appears as if he has been rendered poorly. Another problem is the fact that Bumblebee transforms into a damaged robot mode, but a shiny, spotless vehicle mode. And another problem is that the designs for the Transformers are too much. Basic robot mode designs should be used because technology has not advanced to the point where highly designed CGI looks realistic in a real environments. So if the Transformers had basic robot designs, less detail, more vehicle parts, realistic lighting, and metallic looking vehicle parts in robot mode, the movies would have won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects.

Just think about it. :-?


Simple is boring. And they look realistic as all hell to me.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:07 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:Simple is boring. And they look realistic as hell to me.

Did you misread my post?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:37 am

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I'll just point out the things that may already have been said. So, allow me to do it 4chan style, without the trash talk.

>When there's too much action on screen, you cant tell who is who.
>The con's in AoE transformation is lazy as hell and a cheap cop-out.
>No vehicle parts on some bots in AoE. Really?


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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:51 am

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Did you misread my post?


He's a little simple himself. You'll have to excuse him.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:53 am

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OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Different subject. Does anybody want to know why the CG in all 4 Transformers movies look terrible?

Because they're not? I can only speak for the first three films but the CGI is pretty good in my opinion. I hope your not trying to start something either :x


If you have watched the four Transformers movies (Transformers [2007] may be an exception because it's not as noticeable) the Transformers, especially Optimus Prime and Bumblebee look like crumpled trash cans. In my opinion, the first movie had the best CGI because the Autobots' vehicle parts in their robot modes look like they are made of actual metal. But in the end of DOTM, Optimus appears as if he has been rendered poorly. Another problem is the fact that Bumblebee transforms into a damaged robot mode, but a shiny, spotless vehicle mode. And another problem is that the designs for the Transformers are too much. Basic robot mode designs should be used because technology has not advanced to the point where highly designed CGI looks realistic in a real environments. So if the Transformers had basic robot designs, less detail, more vehicle parts, realistic lighting, and metallic looking vehicle parts in robot mode, the movies would have won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects.

Just think about it. :-?

We'll have to agree to disagree here, the first two films CGI was really good. DOTM I only saw once and never desire to see again. Plus some of your comments here sound like they should be directed at the designers rather then the people doing the effects. I also never found it hard to keep track of what was going on, but everyone is different with this.

Also I'm of the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked. Had they gone that route that the film would of looked like something on the sy-fy channel. Plus they wanted designs that would get every body interested, the movie was never made solely for fans.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:53 am

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I like most of the movie designs. I think they look very alien and advanced to me. I was able to tell who was who. I did miss some of the car parts on the Autobots in AOE,but I liked the human faces on Hound,Crosshairs,and Drift. Is there an explanation as to why Drift and Lockdown have green eyes? I had assumed lockdown's were green because he wasn't on either side,but I'm not sure about Drift.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:19 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Also I'm of the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked.

I wasn't thinking about boxy G1 designs, I meant the same amount of designs as the Transformers in Transformers: Prime, but live-action. Know what I'm saying or not?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby chivesbot20 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:48 am

RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:I like most of the movie designs. I think they look very alien and advanced to me. I was able to tell who was who. I did miss some of the car parts on the Autobots in AOE,but I liked the human faces on Hound,Crosshairs,and Drift. Is there an explanation as to why Drift and Lockdown have green eyes? I had assumed lockdown's were green because he wasn't on either side,but I'm not sure about Drift.


I like all of there designs regardless of what most say. But what got me about the toyline for AOE is that they could sell traces in fifteen different colors. I don't like how most of the toyline is for a 3 year old :sad: But the traces part am i right :lol: :lol:
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:10 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Also I'm They would alsoof the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked.

I wasn't thinking about boxy G1 designs, I meant the same amount of designs as the Transformers in Transformers: Prime, but live-action. Know what I'm saying or not?

They wouldn't have worked either not in live action. Remember the film had a target audience, it's a tricky thing to get right. Again, remember it's just your opinion that the designs and then their rendering was rubbish. Others are happy with things we got :)
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby chivesbot20 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:52 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Also I'm They would alsoof the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked.

I wasn't thinking about boxy G1 designs, I meant the same amount of designs as the Transformers in Transformers: Prime, but live-action. Know what I'm saying or not?

They wouldn't have worked either not in live action. Remember the film had a target audience, it's a tricky thing to get right. Again, remember it's just your opinion that the designs and then their rendering was rubbish. Others are happy with things we got :)


Its all about opinion :D and Zero wolf why don't you like DOTM
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby chivesbot20 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:04 pm

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/d ... ptimus.jpg

That render of Optimus to me looks horrible. That's I scene ( one of the only ones) that I thought was pretty fake looking. I thought that AOE had the best effects and graphic special effects work . Especially Optimus in the Yeager's shed thing.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:04 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Also I'm They would also of the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked.

I wasn't thinking about boxy G1 designs, I meant the same amount of designs as the Transformers in Transformers: Prime, but live-action. Know what I'm saying or not?

They wouldn't have worked either not in live action. Remember the film had a target audience, it's a tricky thing to get right. Again, remember it's just your opinion that the designs and then their rendering was rubbish. Others are happy with things we got :)

I can picture the designs and graphics in my head, but it's very hard to explain. To be more clear:

Something like this, but CGI and much more complex design. The best I can explain it.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby chivesbot20 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:09 pm

That's pretty cool but your point is still unclear
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:17 pm

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Also I'm They would also of the opinion that the simple boxy g1 designs would not of worked.

I wasn't thinking about boxy G1 designs, I meant the same amount of designs as the Transformers in Transformers: Prime, but live-action. Know what I'm saying or not?

They wouldn't have worked either not in live action. Remember the film had a target audience, it's a tricky thing to get right. Again, remember it's just your opinion that the designs and then their rendering was rubbish. Others are happy with things we got :)

I can picture the designs and graphics in my head, but it's very hard to explain. To be more clear:

Something like this, but CGI and much more complex design. The best I can explain it.


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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby chivesbot20 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:45 pm

Blast Cannon wrote:
chivesbot20 wrote:That's pretty cool but your point is still unclear


Welcome to my life when it comes to every single one of your posts.


All you do is criticize anyway. >:oP
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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chivesbot20 wrote:That's pretty cool but your point is still unclear


Welcome to my life when it comes to every single one of your posts.


All you do is criticize anyway. >:oP


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