The Energon Pub

by **alternator77** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:14 pm

Kibble wrote:Regarding the competition bringing prices down...I'd hate to see Hercules and Giants prices if they are supposedly lower because of each other!

The only way I legitimately see a price benefit is if one or both didn't sell well and they reach clearance. Problem there is 1) if you're that interested you can't really rely on that method working out for you, or 2) the lack of interest could cause the rest of the project for staggered release combiners or future cool projects to fail/not see release. In the end, I just don't see all this so called competition as a great thing. If these guys would put out one great product you don't really need two or a choice, and all putting out two very good ones does is cause you to want both. I could easily live with either Hercules or Giant...and I'd like both, but I don't think I can responsibly purchase both. Hell, it's probably irresponsible to be buying one at those prices, but that's beside the point.

id also like to add that with the irregular sometimes(always delayed) releases of 3rd parties if you pass on something when its available for another version there is no telling if youll get either. the different releases alone will coupled with production numbers make competition unlikely. >:oP

and for the record i now have third party fatigue. if your a third party be original thats what got my interest in the first place sheesh :roll:

by **thunderjacker** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:51 pm

WHERE IS BLITZWING!!!!!!!?????????....MINIBOTS?...HEARTMASTERS?....A SHOCKWAVE THAT TURNS INTO A BOAT?....AND NOW TWO COMPANIES PRODUCING THE SAME BOT WITH SIX DIFFERENT MODES???...WHY CAN'T ONE OF THESE COMPANIES PRODUCE A SIMPLER CHARACTER THAT EVERYONE WANTS AND NEEDS IN THEIR COLLECTION?....BLITZWING!!!!!!!!!!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:00 pm

I dunno, this one seems to have less quality than Hexatron. >:oP

by **ShadowGinrai** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:36 pm

That looks like a custom G1 Sixshot to me. Or a very early (very poor) hand-sculpted prototype. I will definitely be getting the other one.

by **dinogeist** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:28 pm

Forgotten wrote:
deathy wrote:I've had this awful 3rd party sixsot toy for a year or TWO. it's not new,it's been a ebay exclusive for a year or two+ now. I think the seller who sold me my version was called "CollectorKB". He's a ebay seller that is based in Hong Kong. he often sells about 6 of these per year on ebay for the past few years. the toy is about 6.8 inches tall in robot mode from head to toe.

This same ebay seller named "CollectorKB". Sells another sixshot custom toy on ebay. this one is a bit bigger & has less joints. I think he used the 1987 sixshot toy & gave it poseable joints. the 2nd one,has limited hip joints range of motion. the seller created a sixshot & great shot versions. the ebay auctions ending bids wanted over $500 for the 2nd bigger version this one is a bit more higher quality than the one being discussed in this thread.

The toy being discussed is a pure piece of garbage. some of the joints the guy literally used rubber or some type of silicon white chalk inside the moving parts. it literally fell apart in my hands while transforming it. I think the seller even went as far as to sell me a repaired version. as their's some repair patch work seen on the toy.

I had to spend a lenghty time repairing the figure & painting it a bit.

I even went as far as to do six U-tube videos showing off the toy.
here are the six u-tube videoes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KncIUM3o2t8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C5XjUcqXJY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C5XjUcqXJY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5fQO3Vrue4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHiHd8ZCAEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEcTIe-_9t4

I was gonna give the toy away to a few internet TF fans. but I didn't want to see this thing mass produced. I wanted it to stay a ebay exclusive. because it's a awful & horrible toy that should never see mass production.

I checked out your videos. I have to say the thing looks pretty decent. It appears to have a nice finish(thanks to yourself). May I ask how much it was or would that be "a collecting no-no"?

I paid over $350 for it. the toy is very loose in the joints. stuff is literally glued on with elmers glue & falls off extremly easily. the guy who did this,painted it by hand & he didn't do a professional job.

the articulated jointed look like the guy took Q-Tips & turned then into pegged joints. the guy even went as far as to use some weird silicone based chalk for some of the moving joints. needless to say the silicone/chalk wears off very easy,breaks down & the toy falls apart into dozens of pieces like peanut brittle.

Personally this guy who created this thing did a awful job. I'm writting this EXTREMLY NEGATIVE REVIEW because I don't want to see any internet TF fans lose money. this thing isn't worth anything over $20.
I certainly don't want to see anyone paying over $70 for this thing.

HEXATRON,Is the superior toy. I plan on buying a few of this mold. the guys who created hexatron used superior joints,superior plastic,strong engineering & awesome design.

by **dinogeist** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:39 pm

Mykltron wrote:I can't see anything good about it. Poor proportions, limited articulation. It looks as though it will be small.

It is small,it's voyager sized. the toy does have decent articulation. the toys biggest failure is cheaps parts that make it fall apart in dozens of pieces.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The toy in the picture is different than the ones in your videos. Just look at the head.

The guy who creates these things & sells them on ebay. has been known to do slight modifications & remolds on the toy.

the toy pictured in this thread is the same exact one i've got. maybe with a few fixed/remolded parts. but generally it's the same awful inferior mold that breaks apart in your hands like peanut brittle.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:20 pm

deathy wrote:
Mykltron wrote:I can't see anything good about it. Poor proportions, limited articulation. It looks as though it will be small.

It is small,it's voyager sized. the toy does have decent articulation. the toys biggest failure is cheaps parts that make it fall apart in dozens of pieces.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The toy in the picture is different than the ones in your videos. Just look at the head.

The guy who creates these things & sells them on ebay. has been known to do slight modifications & remolds on the toy.

the toy pictured in this thread is the same exact one i've got. maybe with a few fixed/remolded parts. but generally it's the same awful inferior mold that breaks apart in your hands like peanut brittle.

Well mabey being a new? 3party there not going to have the cheap ko parts yours did if they want to be competition in 3p game. >:oP

Sixshot is sixshot he looks like he does, being the same size dosent mean its the same as yours with a few mods. >:oP

i dont know much about this stuff but if it was yours would they not have a more perfect mould already than this to show off as this looks like a scratch built model meaning their creation. >:oP

by **dinogeist** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:58 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:
deathy wrote:
Mykltron wrote:I can't see anything good about it. Poor proportions, limited articulation. It looks as though it will be small.

It is small,it's voyager sized. the toy does have decent articulation. the toys biggest failure is cheaps parts that make it fall apart in dozens of pieces.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The toy in the picture is different than the ones in your videos. Just look at the head.

The guy who creates these things & sells them on ebay. has been known to do slight modifications & remolds on the toy.

the toy pictured in this thread is the same exact one i've got. maybe with a few fixed/remolded parts. but generally it's the same awful inferior mold that breaks apart in your hands like peanut brittle.

Well mabey being a new? 3party there not going to have the cheap ko parts yours did if they want to be competition in 3p game.

Sixshot is sixshot he looks like he does, being the same size dosent mean its the same as yours with a few mods.

i dont know much about this stuff but if it was yours would they not have a more perfect mould already than this to show off as this looks like a scratch built model meaning their creation.

I've examined the pics on the first page & compared them against my copy. they both appear to be equally inferior & the same size scale.

I'm not here to argue with anyone. I just wanted to WARN everyone this thing is garbage & don't waste your money on this. it will fall apart in your hands.

As noted everywhere "some" 3rd party companies that make TF'S,Don't take pride in their work,use cheaps stuff to get more profits.

get Hexatron instead,because these guys take pride in their work & are using superior stuff to make their toys.