TurboMMaster wrote:Well, you know, it is really hard to find any movie that don't copy themes from other movie. X-Men itself is just changed idea of Heroes from Ancient Greece...
One of the things that a lot of people are excited about is we’re finally going to get to see Sentinels doing battle with the X-Men, and not in some poopy way, like full on Sentinel stuff and we’ve seen a picture that you’ve released, so what can you tease people about the Sentinels in the movie?
SINGER: Well the Sentinels of the past, it’s not, I mean, I have to say, there are movies like Transformers, and Iron Man, and Pacific Rim, that have already explored robots of all different sizes and shapes and scope and caliber, I knew that to make another robot attacks people or hero movie is not- yet they are an element in the picture.
Va'al wrote:I read an interview with Bryan Singer just the other day about his ´inspiration´ from previous robot films, with Transformers being explicitly mentioned.
Aha, here it is! http://collider.com/bryan-singer-x-men- ... interview/One of the things that a lot of people are excited about is we’re finally going to get to see Sentinels doing battle with the X-Men, and not in some poopy way, like full on Sentinel stuff and we’ve seen a picture that you’ve released, so what can you tease people about the Sentinels in the movie?
SINGER: Well the Sentinels of the past, it’s not, I mean, I have to say, there are movies like Transformers, and Iron Man, and Pacific Rim, that have already explored robots of all different sizes and shapes and scope and caliber, I knew that to make another robot attacks people or hero movie is not- yet they are an element in the picture.
Blast Cannon wrote:I honestly don't see your point then?
I also challenge the premise that there is no originality in the Transformers. No other movie franchise could come up and then get away with such an obvious racial stereotype as those two annoying brothers in ROTF.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
TurboMMaster wrote:Like I said before, RotF is essentialy a Kung Fu Panda with Giant Alien robots insteaf of humanoid animals.
The Chosen One? Humiliating Downfall? Took a Level in Badass? Very Old Mentor Guy?SlyTF1 wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Like I said before, RotF is essentialy a Kung Fu Panda with Giant Alien robots insteaf of humanoid animals.
The hell are you talking about? The only similarity is that some evil guy escapes an inescapable prison. The similarities end there.
TurboMMaster wrote:The Chosen One? Humiliating Downfall? Took a Level in Badass? Very Old Mentor Guy?SlyTF1 wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Like I said before, RotF is essentialy a Kung Fu Panda with Giant Alien robots insteaf of humanoid animals.
The hell are you talking about? The only similarity is that some evil guy escapes an inescapable prison. The similarities end there.
Main plot of RotF is exactly the same, there is just to much unimportant addons in Movie.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:I honestly don't see your point then?
I also challenge the premise that there is no originality in the Transformers. No other movie franchise could come up and then get away with such an obvious racial stereotype as those two annoying brothers in ROTF.
Hmm.... I saw two orange and green robots. If you or anyone else associated their, or any other robots behavior with any "ethnicity" then I'd say they were the ones who are racially stereotyping.
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Evil_the_Nub wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:I honestly don't see your point then?
I also challenge the premise that there is no originality in the Transformers. No other movie franchise could come up and then get away with such an obvious racial stereotype as those two annoying brothers in ROTF.
Hmm.... I saw two orange and green robots. If you or anyone else associated their, or any other robots behavior with any "ethnicity" then I'd say they were the ones who are racially stereotyping.
Exactly, I don't know why people keep crying "that's racist!" against characters who aren't even human.
Blast Cannon wrote:
Oh, I hadn't seen this. So from your point of view I'm the racist for associating two characters displaying negative cultural stereotypes, typically of African-Americans, and identifying them as such?...
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:
Oh, I hadn't seen this. So from your point of view I'm the racist for associating two characters displaying negative cultural stereotypes, typically of African-Americans, and identifying them as such?...
Yes.
Details, details, only details... There is no reason why transforming Robots couldn't be changed into antropomorhpic animals, or Angels&Demons.Blast Cannon wrote:Except one is about a panda who learns kung fu and the other is about an intergalactic civil war between transforming robots. Other than that you're completely right.
Blast Cannon wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:
Oh, I hadn't seen this. So from your point of view I'm the racist for associating two characters displaying negative cultural stereotypes, typically of African-Americans, and identifying them as such?...
Yes.
In which case you are an ill-informed moron.
You take two robots and you give them personalities that reflect 'hip-hop' and wannabe gangster characteristics, which are typically associated with African-Americans then you identify them as such. The reason why people do this is because it's ingrained in people by the media, of which Revenge of the Fallen was just the latest film to do. The fact that I have done this does not make me racist; there is a huge difference between acknowledging a stereotype and being approving of it. Unless you're a moron.
OptiMagnus wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:
Oh, I hadn't seen this. So from your point of view I'm the racist for associating two characters displaying negative cultural stereotypes, typically of African-Americans, and identifying them as such?...
Yes.
In which case you are an ill-informed moron.
You take two robots and you give them personalities that reflect 'hip-hop' and wannabe gangster characteristics, which are typically associated with African-Americans then you identify them as such. The reason why people do this is because it's ingrained in people by the media, of which Revenge of the Fallen was just the latest film to do. The fact that I have done this does not make me racist; there is a huge difference between acknowledging a stereotype and being approving of it. Unless you're a moron.
There is also a huge difference between giving those same personalities to African-American humans in a movie and giving them to green and orange alien robots that do not resemble humans whatsoever. Unless wearing green and orange is also a black stereotype that I'm not aware of. So basically, you're watching those two funny-looking robots and thinking "they're obviously supposed to be black because they're acting like this," when people like Justin Bieber pretty much act the same way.
Blast Cannon wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:
Oh, I hadn't seen this. So from your point of view I'm the racist for associating two characters displaying negative cultural stereotypes, typically of African-Americans, and identifying them as such?...
Yes.
In which case you are an ill-informed moron.
You take two robots and you give them personalities that reflect 'hip-hop' and wannabe gangster characteristics, which are typically associated with African-Americans then you identify them as such. The reason why people do this is because it's ingrained in people by the media, of which Revenge of the Fallen was just the latest film to do. The fact that I have done this does not make me racist; there is a huge difference between acknowledging a stereotype and being approving of it. Unless you're a moron.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
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