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News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:58 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Still, the majority is new, and I own half of them. On the hunt for Survive, Bump and Crazybolt are a bonus, but Randy is a GPS-hazard if I ever saw one.
They should rerelease every GPS/BPS figure with gold/brown paint instead of plastic.

Which is what I plan with Randy. Get a spare Razorbeast and have him repainted.

Cool! I'll look forward to seeing the final results.

by **mysterybutt** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:20 pm

Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.

That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.

These are from 1998. There's no chance for a Blu-Ray release of this, nor even for G1. The only Transformers series that could possibly be put on Blu-Ray are Animated and Prime.

If they have the original film masters they can be remastered to an appropriate standard. The Transformers masters are missing, so there isn't a huge point. There are advantages to many titles, even pre-digital ones, that aren't just produced in HD.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:34 pm

mysterybutt wrote:
Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.

That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.

The only anime I watch are children's/preteen's anime, and I get a lot out of them.

Though, yes, watching with subs isn't that hard a skill to master.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:
mysterybutt wrote:
Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.

That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.
The only anime I watch are children's/preteen's anime, and I get a lot out of them.

Though, yes, watching with subs isn't that hard a skill to master.

We in the Netherlands do nothing but, everything foreign on TV (even Flemish!) is subtitled, except for children's shows and cartoons. May I add that our dubbing is lame with a capital L, especially when the shows dubbed are live-action?

Like Michael Alex Kawa on Facebook · by **Michael Alex Kawa** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:02 pm

@Sabrblade

michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much.

Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl? :???:

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly =P~

area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different .

.I am sorry about the confusion :KREMZEEK:

. I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny

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News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:58 pm

michael alex kawa wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much.
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl?

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different . .I am sorry about the confusion . I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny .

Oh, right. Her.

I guess I can see some rabbit influence in her design. Wonder if her look was inspired in any way by Usagi Tsukino.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:12 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much.
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl?

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different . .I am sorry about the confusion . I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny .
Oh, right. Her.

I guess I can see some rabbit influence in her design. Wonder if her look was inspired in any way by Usagi Tsukino.

They both share inspiration at least: a Japanese myth about a rabbit living on the moon with a maiden. This motif is very common in Japanese media, along with the 4 Guardian Beasts (Dragon, Bird, Tiger and Turtle), and Tanabata, the story about the weaver girl and the shepherd. Here's a page you should visit:

Moon Rabbit on Wikipedia

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:29 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much.
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl?

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different . .I am sorry about the confusion . I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny .
Oh, right. Her.

I guess I can see some rabbit influence in her design. Wonder if her look was inspired in any way by Usagi Tsukino.

They both share inspiration at least: a Japanese myth about a rabbit living on the moon with a maiden. This motif is very common in Japanese media, along with the 4 Guardian Beasts (Dragon, Bird, Tiger and Turtle), and Tanabata, the story about the weaver girl and the shepherd. Here's a page you should visit:

Moon Rabbit on Wikipedia

Been there done that.

Though, now you got me thinking why they've never done the four beasts in TF media before. Have four powerful ancient bots with dragon, tortoise, tiger and phoenix beast modes.

Like Michael Alex Kawa on Facebook · by **Michael Alex Kawa** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much.
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl?

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different . .I am sorry about the confusion . I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny .
Oh, right. Her.

I guess I can see some rabbit influence in her design. Wonder if her look was inspired in any way by Usagi Tsukino.

Considering i like both her and Sailor Moon ,i say yes . 8-}

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:15 pm

Nico Nico Chokuhan have posted a mock up of the package art for the upcoming Beast Wars II DVD Boxset. This will be the first time this series has ever made available on DVD format. The set will include all 43 episodes that aired 1998 on 8 discs and is scheduled for release October 20th for 29,400 yen. They note the final packaging is subject to change.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:49 pm

Man I have never understood why DVDs are so expensive in Japan. Even if the Yen and the dollar were the same value right now, this set would cost $294. With the current exchange rate, it's around $385 currently. At a one-to-one rate, that'd still be about $264 more than the $30 this should cost. Hopefully Shout Factory will release this in the future. I've got my fingers crossed!

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:48 am

El Duque wrote:Nico Nico Chokuhan have posted a mock up of the package art for the upcoming Beast Wars II DVD Boxset. This will be the first time this series has ever made available on DVD format. The set will include all 43 episodes that aired 1998 on 8 discs and is scheduled for release October 20th for 29,400 yen. They note the final packaging is subject to change.

Oh, SNAP! That artwork is GORGEOUS!!! :APPLAUSE:

DANCE: DANCE: DANCE: :DANCE:

News Credits: 9 · by **triKlops** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:34 am

Seibertron wrote:Man I have never understood why DVDs are so expensive in Japan. Even if the Yen and the dollar were the same value right now, this set would cost $294. With the current exchange rate, it's around $385 currently. At a one-to-one rate, that'd still be about $264 more than the $30 this should cost. Hopefully Shout Factory will release this in the future. I've got my fingers crossed!

I second the hope for shout factory to release this.
i thought my exchange rate was a little high until i read this post.
talk about costing an arm and a leg.

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:42 am

El Duque wrote:

That's weird, why put Megastorm there instead of Galvatron? :???:

And ersonally, I would have probably liked the art more had they gotten this guy to do it:

Just look at that! :HALUC:

by **Rated X** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:58 am

These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:07 am

triKlops wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Man I have never understood why DVDs are so expensive in Japan. Even if the Yen and the dollar were the same value right now, this set would cost $294. With the current exchange rate, it's around $385 currently. At a one-to-one rate, that'd still be about $264 more than the $30 this should cost. Hopefully Shout Factory will release this in the future. I've got my fingers crossed!

I second the hope for shout factory to release this.
i thought my exchange rate was a little high until i read this post.
talk about costing an arm and a leg.

And hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes with the subbing of the Japanese G1 series. :roll:

cannonfodder4000 wrote:That's weird, why put Megastorm there instead of Galvatron?

Good question, actually. :-?

cannonfodder4000 wrote:And ersonally, I would have probably liked the art more had they gotten this guy to do it:

Just look at that!

B-E-A-Utiful! =P~

Like Cyberstrike on Facebook · by **Cyberstrike** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:14 am

Sabrblade wrote:
El Duque wrote:Nico Nico Chokuhan have posted a mock up of the package art for the upcoming Beast Wars II DVD Boxset. This will be the first time this series has ever made available on DVD format. The set will include all 43 episodes that aired 1998 on 8 discs and is scheduled for release October 20th for 29,400 yen. They note the final packaging is subject to change.

Reminds me of the Shout Factory's box art for Beast Wars: The Complet Series.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:25 am

Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!

You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic? >:oP

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:54 pm

Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!

Actually, the redubbing is done by separate studios (be them or be them not located in the US) who buy the rights to do so for such a series, not by the studios who originally created them. Why do you think we have studios like Funimation or 4Kids (blech)?

Besides, the "I scratch your back and you'll scratch mine" does not work in the business world.

by **Rated X** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic?

No I dont, but Im sure somewhere out there in Japan there is a group of fans with enough talent and time on their hands to take on the job. But hey if you like sub-tites, go for this version. Id rather create a onlize buzz calling for the real deal. I know Im just a drop in the bucket, but you never know who reads these posts.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Rated X wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic?

No I dont, but Im sure somewhere out there in Japan there is a group of fans with enough talent and time on their hands to take on the job.

I'll just restate what JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

"Actually, the redubbing is done by separate studios (be them or be them not located in the US) who buy the rights to do so for such a series, not by the studios who originally created them. Why do you think we have studios like Funimation or 4Kids (blech)?

Besides, the "I scratch your back and you'll scratch mine" does not work in the business world."

Rated X wrote:But hey if you like sub-tites, go for this version.

For the bazillionth time, this is the DOMESTIC Japanese DVD release. There are NO subtitles in this this set. NO ONE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN is intended to buy this set. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know the whole story. :BANG_HEAD:

Rated X wrote:Id rather create a onlize buzz calling for the real deal. I know Im just a drop in the bucket, but you never know who reads these posts.

There is NO PROFIT in producing an English dub for a show about toys that haven't been for sale in 13 years. Hasbro would have to spend more than they'd earn on a new dub in order to make one.

by **Rated X** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:20 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic?

No I dont, but Im sure somewhere out there in Japan there is a group of fans with enough talent and time on their hands to take on the job.
I'll just restate what JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

"Actually, the redubbing is done by separate studios (be them or be them not located in the US) who buy the rights to do so for such a series, not by the studios who originally created them. Why do you think we have studios like Funimation or 4Kids (blech)?

Besides, the "I scratch your back and you'll scratch mine" does not work in the business world."

Rated X wrote:But hey if you like sub-tites, go for this version.
For the bazillionth time, this is the DOMESTIC Japanese DVD release. There are NO subtitles in this this set. NO ONE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN is intended to buy this set. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know the whole story.

Rated X wrote:Id rather create a onlize buzz calling for the real deal. I know Im just a drop in the bucket, but you never know who reads these posts.
There is NO PROFIT in producing an English dub for a show about toys that haven't been for sale in 13 years. Hasbro would have to spend more than they'd earn on a new dub in order to make one.

No profit in english TF DVD's ??? I suppose all the Rhino releases were just made for charity...

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:31 pm

Rated X wrote:No profit in english TF DVD's ??? I suppose all the Rhino releases were just made for charity...

No profit for making a new DUB. There's profit for selling DVDs, that's an easy feat. Creating an entirely new ENGLISH DUB from the ground up (when one never existed) is a whole different story.

That's partly why they didn't create one for the Headmasters DVDs.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:No profit in english TF DVD's ??? I suppose all the Rhino releases were just made for charity...
No profit for making a new DUB. There's profit for selling DVDs, that's an easy feat. Creating an entirely new ENGLISH DUB from the ground up (when one never existed) is a whole different story.

That's partly why they didn't create one for the Headmasters DVDs.

Food for thought:

Any movie or series with an existing English soundtrack are easy to do. Just slap the series on a couple DVD's and you're done. However, when the soundtrack including the voice-overs is missing, one has to be made, so one must contract a studio to do so. That adds additional cost in shape of the studio fee, which among other thing pays the voice actors and the actual translation of the Japanese.
It's a rather big investment, and only worth if there's a large enough amount of potential customers. Some animes have a large knowledgeable fanbase to be worth it, but with Transformers it's bit trickier than that. In my opinion we're really lucky with Headmasters, Choujin Masterforce and Victory on DVD, even without redubbing, as those series can be obscure. Beast Wars II and Neo are worse in that, some have never even heard of them (seriously, go check comments on YouTube!) or confuse the two series (which still irks me to bits).

Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:53 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.

However, the release of these DVDs in Japan makes a better chance for one to happen in the West. As a subbed DVD release, that is, as a dub would be, realistically, next to impossible at this point.