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Postby Amelie » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:21 pm

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China.Org has reported of a potential Beast Wars movie as well as the (still rumored) Optimus Prime movie. Bumblebee movie producer, Lorenzo di Bonaventura was also careful to state that the chances of subsequent movies are riding on the success of Bumblebee at the Box Office.

He also mentioned the animated movie was in its writing stage, though with other titles already riding on Bumblebee's success – being in the writing stage doesn't exactly guarantee even the animated movie's release, either.

China.org wrote:"We have an animated movie in the writing stage right now. We are trying to figure out an Optimus Prime movie, while the Beast Wars franchise has the chance, too."

However, the producer stressed this could only happen under one condition: "Bumblebee" must be a success.”


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You can read the full report here, which also mulls over design choices for the Bumblebee movie and its more G1 centric aesthetic.

With the Bumblebee movie still being pushed at the cinema is it too early to be giving hints of Beast Wars and Optimus Prime to generate hype for more movies or is it a carrot to generate additional sales for the Bumblebee movie? If Beast Wars or Optimus Prime is going ahead – what are you hoping for? Share your thoughts on the Energon Pub right here on Seibertron.com!
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby Skritz » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:36 pm

But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP
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Postby Amelie » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:42 pm

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Its too early to say that [if its a flop] at the moment. Bumblebee only released in China yesterday, which is now a massive market for Hollywood movies.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby 1984forever » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:47 pm

So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.
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Postby Lore Keeper » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:00 pm

No guys, don't do this to me. I wont be able to handle the disappointment when it doesn't happen! :-(
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:25 pm

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A beast wars movie? Make it is own timeline and I'm in.

Also the China opening seems to be a good deal better then the American one. Fingers crossed bee makesyso much of its money back but its getting the marketing costs back that's the problem these days. Especially since they tend to keep that figure close to their chests.
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:09 pm

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Considering it has taken 11 years for a Live Action Transformers film with an overall positive consensus, leave Beast Wars alone.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

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Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:23 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

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Does that include marketing costs?
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby UnderYourCloset » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:24 pm

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Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP


You North American elitist. >:oP

Emerje wrote:
Skritz wrote:But isn't Bumblebee a flop? >:oP

Not really. Its success never rode entirely on the US release, it was within its opening weekend range so it at least met expectations there. It also came out of its second weekend at $20M maintaining its 3rd place spot. Worldwide it's already made $196,611,248 so its made back all of its costs and that's ahead of the Chinese release this weekend and the Japanese release in March plus home video so it seems to be doing fine. It isn't breaking records, but I doubt it'll prevent anything new from being made, probably just effect future budgets.

Emerje


For people to say it's failing, I really can't see how it is. The general consensus is that it's really good, so word of mouth would surely help it. I didn't expect a movie with this budget to outsell TLK, but I didn't expect it to flop either. And I still don't. TLK flopped because its budget was also very high and it couldn't make its money back despite its large advertising budget. Bumblebee is a low budget movie, so it just being a moderate success is in of itself pretty much a miracle.

Also with all the negative comments being half people saying they want something "new and woke like Bay" and the other half being geewhiners saying they want something "new and woke like G1", I find the movie to be literally the perfect balance of both. Now let's just hope future ones aren't afraid to stray away from Bay's continuity for creative purposes.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby dragons » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:01 pm

1984forever wrote:So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.


Not everything needs be g1 crap did people say armada , cybertron, animated, prime series sucks it’s not g1 not dam chance people like series have to much g1 **** it will make live action movie look like **** cartoon if you shallow minded old fans get your heads out of your butts and try something new talk to new transformer fans thanks to movies for making them fans you will dam know they hate cartoons and comics when they want to see transformers movie they want live action not transformers cartoon movie such as ultra magnus was in only people who will see transformers cartoon movie are people on this site and little kids if transformers live action movie looks to cartoony new fans will not see it but you old fans never ever talk to new fans to realize this ****.

My boss he likes marvel movies he saw every marvel movie there is but he will not see Spider-Man into spider verse cartoon movie why he does not like cartoons that is how new transformer fans feel make transformer movie look more cartoony and less live action of course new fans will not see it and it does not help bumblebee being released same day on aquaman was on aquaman is kicking bee ass that’s another reason for bumblebee not doing well get off stupid g1 **** you can accept change in cartoons but never movies as old fan you are what does that say for yourself it tells new fans you only like g1 nothing more if it’s not g1 you won’t like it and you won’t give it chance unless it’s cartoon series one sided thinking of course not surprised
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Postby SkyFire Prime » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:03 pm

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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby UnderYourCloset » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:22 pm

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Hot damn, hire me as a mod so I can clean up this crap, lmao

The reason some are complaining is not from being geewhiners, but people like myself feel Bayverse left too little room for much new. It's not that I hate Bayverse, I just want the writers and directors to have MORE creative liberty.

Stop being abusive towards a general direction when you don't really even know what people are talking about. It's the Bayverse timeline that peeves a lot of people, not necessarily change and trying new things. Though there are those kind of nutjobs as well in any fandom. Believe me, my Facebook is flooded with them. X_X

Edit: Also, @a specific person above, please learn how to use punctuation. It puts a dampering on your credibility when your entire argument is a century long run-on sentence.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby S.o.L. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:22 pm

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Amelie wrote:a potential Beast Wars movie

Already done, but it was part of King Kong, they just didn't transform.
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Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:48 am

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i dont think it would be hard they already can do movies like skull island and rampage
this wouldnt be that much more difficult
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

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Please no, some things should be left untouched & unspoiled, easpecially by certain producers, directors and scriptwriters.

Maybe they can try doing an Animorphs movie (it can even have Rhianna in it), no way that can ruin anything for anyone :)
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:07 am

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Beast Wars lives on in the MP collection, it is better to leave it there, on a high note. "Modern" tastes would seek to tweak Beast Wars based on the ego of Script Writer/Director/Producer, be that film or new TV show.
If they really want to mess with something other than G1, just do a Go-Bots film and leave the rest of the Transformers legacy outside of Generation One in peace.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:01 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Beast Wars lives on in the MP collection, it is better to leave it there, on a high note. "Modern" tastes would seek to tweak Beast Wars based on the ego of Script Writer/Director/Producer, be that film or new TV show.
If they really want to mess with something other than G1, just do a Go-Bots film and leave the rest of the Transformers legacy outside of Generation One in peace.

A go-bots vs Transformers vs GI Joe movie :-? Could work...

Also if we can get King Ghidora in an American Godzilla movie that incorporates King Kong into its expanded universe then we can get a beast wars movie.
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:08 am

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So as long as they can do the Beast Modes visually in Live Action (let alone the fact they would butcher the Bot Modes) that equals Beast Wars Movie??

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Postby Burn » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:08 am

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dragons wrote:
1984forever wrote:So what’s the game plan here? For Transformers fans to see Bumblebee over and over until it’s a success? Bee is far from my favorite character. I didn’t originally intend to see Bumblebee, but I decided to go to the theater anyway because of the G1 sequences (which I suspect were tossed in at the last minute to draw fans like me in). I actually hoped the BB movie would fail and the Transformers movie franchise would be rebooted closer to it’s G1 roots sometime in the future. It’s sad that everything is contingent upon BB doing well because I’m not shelling out any more dollars to see it (I’m actually thinking about taking the family out to see Aquaman tonight). Hopefully Paramount or whoever will be satisfied with the 350 or so million Bumblebee MIGHT make.


Not everything needs be g1 crap did people say armada , cybertron, animated, prime series sucks it’s not g1 not dam chance people like series have to much g1 **** it will make live action movie look like **** cartoon if you shallow minded old fans get your heads out of your butts and try something new talk to new transformer fans thanks to movies for making them fans you will dam know they hate cartoons and comics when they want to see transformers movie they want live action not transformers cartoon movie such as ultra magnus was in only people who will see transformers cartoon movie are people on this site and little kids if transformers live action movie looks to cartoony new fans will not see it but you old fans never ever talk to new fans to realize this ****.

My boss he likes marvel movies he saw every marvel movie there is but he will not see Spider-Man into spider verse cartoon movie why he does not like cartoons that is how new transformer fans feel make transformer movie look more cartoony and less live action of course new fans will not see it and it does not help bumblebee being released same day on aquaman was on aquaman is kicking bee ass that’s another reason for bumblebee not doing well get off stupid g1 **** you can accept change in cartoons but never movies as old fan you are what does that say for yourself it tells new fans you only like g1 nothing more if it’s not g1 you won’t like it and you won’t give it chance unless it’s cartoon series one sided thinking of course not surprised


Hey dragons! You've sprouted off like this before, and I pulled you up then, and I'm doing it now. You don't speak for the majority, just because your circle of friends feel that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

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Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:35 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So as long as they can do the Beast Modes visually in Live Action (let alone the fact they would butcher the Bot Modes) that equals Beast Wars Movie??

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There's no proof yet they would destroy the bot modes as so far we've now got two different ways that bot modes have been translated to the big screen. I'd give it the benefit of the doubt till we saw renders. Plus at the very least it wouldn't do anything to the beast wars product out there already.
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Name one Live Action design that is superior to it's contemporaries. That is, by agreed consensus.
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Re: Hints at a potential Beast Wars movie from Bumblebee producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:56 am

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Are we talking strictly transformers? As I think the majority love the G1 designs from the Cybertron scenes of Bumblebee. If we're talking non-tf then I submit Thanos and Deadpool.

I said I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and I will if this project goes anywhere.
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ZeroWolf wrote:Are we talking strictly transformers? As I think the majority love the G1 designs from the Cybertron scenes of Bumblebee. If we're talking non-tf then I submit Thanos and Deadpool.

I said I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and I will if this project goes anywhere.


Just Transformers. As for Deadpool, he is as close to comic book [design] verbatim onscreen as Sin City.

Beast Wars story is done. It had a beginning, middle and end. G1 died out and left potential unfulfilled, with room for expansion. Beast Wars didn't.
As I said, given how cool Scioli's new mini series is at the moment, I'd rather they do a Go-Bots Movie instead. Or even give one of the other Transformers offshoots some Live Action attention.
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with this guy as a producer do not expect a good movie but i have been wanting another great beast line of toys for a while now.
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