Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".wigglez323 wrote:I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Only the "good parts", as he called them. Remember, he ignored the other stuff in it that didn't glorify himself (or rather, didn't glorify the Megatron of myth).wigglez323 wrote:I get the fact thet they have their religions. What I'm saying is that megatron reading out of the autobot bible was too religious.
So what if the kids wouldn't get a deeper stuff? To them, they'd just see it as some fancy talk and would focus more the robots fighting each other with giant spaceships. The kids don't have to get, but that doesn't mean they can't leave it in for the older audiences who watched it to get.wigglez323 wrote:Especially for a kids show that not all the watchers are going to follow the first testimate (or however it's spelled. sorry towards who follow it.) Because that seemed pretty close to it.
Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio were the story consultants for "Dawn of Future's Past".wigglez323 wrote:And I know BW went into BM, but I think they should do a prequal series. There is the Timelines comic and that Botcon special "Theft of the Golden Disk," But I'm talking about before that, writen by the show writers. IMO, that'd be sweet.
I don't follow. 52 episodes is too short? It "just ends"? The ending came at its appropriate time. All episodes leading up to it foreshadowed its approach. Line from Optimus indicated that the Beast Wars had to be won. And soon. Megatron's actions got so intense with the fabric of time that he had to be stopped once and for all. They couldn't drag it out any longer, unless you squeeze in some unimportant fillers like what season 1 had.wigglez323 wrote:I just feel BW was a bit too short for how seasons 2 and 3 got way better than season 1 and then it just ends.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Even then, the Vok have some religious context to themselves, due to their connection to The One.wigglez323 wrote:I don't know. IMO, what made season 1 good and got me hooked was the "alien" stuff. I know they involved that one ship that transported Tigertron and Air Razor and then came back to bring in Tigerhawk. I think episodes battling the aliens would of been cool. And what I mean by "just ending" was that season 1 was good. Season 2 was way better and then season 3 was crazy awesome. I'm aware that they reached the end by capturing Megatron before he tried to kill Optimus Prime a second time. But the way the show was getting better and better, reached and ending when it was so good. I just feel that it should've been longer based on how good the show was. And BM had different writers so it's kind of "blah/what ever."
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".wigglez323 wrote:I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.
One of, at least. I like it too.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".wigglez323 wrote:I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.
That's the best damn part of the entire TF universe IMO.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".wigglez323 wrote:I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.
That's the best damn part of the entire TF universe IMO.
Let's see, there has been:wigglez323 wrote:To go along with how I said BW was too short in my opinion, There aren't enough BW comics out there either. Like there so any G1 and G2 comics out there, but very few of BW. I guess not alot would be happining in a little time amout that the BW lasted but still. There can't be a story where they landed on an alien planet or a different point of time on Earth?
The "Cybertron story"?wigglez323 wrote:BW is my favorite part of the Cybertron story, and it seems like it was just brushed aside.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Like TulioDude said, I looked them all up on TFWiki.wigglez323 wrote:Where'd you get all that from? I have the gathering, the ascending 2 of 4, timelines and seen the source book. And trust me. I've been looking
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:Since we're on TF religion. Who would be the Jim Jones of the TF Universe? (Yes, I realize some of you are too young to get this. Google "Jonestown.") And don't drink the tainted Energon!
People wrote:zombybunnie: N_V scares me...I no longer wish that my pants transformed
Burn:Anyone notice how much of a boring party pooper N_V is? He doesn't join in the fun, he's spent the last few years with dodgy builds feeding XP to the Autobots, and he sure as heck doesn't spam.
disruptor96: I forgot how insane you were.
Beast Machines was more mature (and arguably more complex).Mechanurgist wrote:Beast Wars had arguably the most integrated, complex, continuous and mature storyline of all the TF series.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
What show were you watching? Some Robot Chicken spoof or something? Cuz Beast Wars was devoid of feces.cotss2012 wrote:Beast Wars season 1: Not just horrible, but literally painful to watch. Seeing a monkey smear its own feces all over my TV screen would have been higher-quality entertainment than this.
Still better than Prime, man.cotss2012 wrote:Beast Machines: Positively orgasmic! Dark, spiritual, great story, great characters... best TF series of all time up until TF Prime came along.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was devoid of feces.
cotss2012 wrote:Still better than Prime, man.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Stop watching Japanese Beast Wars. Watch the English version.cotss2012 wrote:Megatron's camp gayness,
They stopped this in season 2.cotss2012 wrote:and the 10,000 times when I have to listen to someone say "I am transformed",
So?cotss2012 wrote:a Megatron who is once again voiced by Frank Welker,
Right, because they totally had the 2011 level CGI technology back in 2000-2001, but chose not to use it.cotss2012 wrote:plus, everything on Beast Machines looks like a screenshot from Quake III Arena, whereas Prime looks like proper television-worthy CGI, with shadows and particle effects and stuff.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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