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When I first saw this at Botcon, I got... umm... excited. When I found out it was a BBTS exclusive, I pre-ordered it without hesitation. I've had it for about a week now but haven't had time to really play with it. Now that it's Labor Day weekend and I finally at time to play with the Seacons reissue. Am I the only one who is disappointed with it? The QA is horrible! It is very loose! It is inferior compared to the original. Does anyone else feel the same?

I am lucky I have a God Neptune thats perfect and tight. I did get this reissue and truth be told... its pretty poor in quality.

Stickers applied poorly, joints super loose, pegs totally skinny in their holes. I'll most likely end up displaying all of them in weapon mode. They keep together in some configurations, but other ones it just flops apart.

For the price, it was really no question I had to buy it. But if it was the only copy of the mold I owned, I would be pretty annoyed. I suppose its fine for a shelf piece, but overall pretty MEH.

I haven't gotten to open mine yet(technically, it's my birthday present from the wife and that's not for another month), but no QC issues visibly, yet(no sticker issues I can see yet, no incorrect arms, etc.). Here's hoping I got a good one with all the parts...

mine came in a couple days ago and there arnt any missing parts or incorrectly assembled bits on him. the plastic feels rather weak tho, particularly in the connector bits in his fists. he displays nicely though, and i noticed that the shafts from the weapon stands can be used as alternate guns for either robot or weapon modes on the smaller figures.

Uh oh......i haven't received mine yet but these QC issues i'm reading about are unsettling!! WHY?? why could he not be perfect?!?!?. Dammit!
Hope mine is up to my rather high standards.....I don't want to get bummed out just yet though.

monstergrotusque wrote:Uh oh......i haven't received mine yet but these QC issues i'm reading about are unsettling!! WHY?? why could he not be perfect?!?!?. Dammit!
Hope mine is up to my rather high standards.....I don't want to get bummed out just yet though.

I wouldn't be too quick to judge every reissue harshly.

It's true that some of the QC is craptastic, such as pins missing.

On the other hand, the molds themselves have flaws that have been there from the beginning, all the way back in G1.

That's why some folks get great reissues, others end up getting gypped.

But it's not just the QC, it's definitely the molds.

I'm sorta wondering if my package has been lost. I live in canada and it's been well over 14 days since the order shipped.

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm sorta wondering if my package has been lost. I live in canada and it's been well over 14 days since the order shipped.

If you shipped USPS Air Mail, in my experience it can take up to a month for BBTS shipments to reach Canada. So much for Air Mail, right? It's probably partially due to Canada Customs delays.

If you shipped UPS, you should track your package and find out what's going on.

kirbenvost wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm sorta wondering if my package has been lost. I live in canada and it's been well over 14 days since the order shipped.

If you shipped USPS Air Mail, in my experience it can take up to a month for BBTS shipments to reach Canada. So much for Air Mail, right? It's probably partially due to Canada Customs delays.

If you shipped UPS, you should track your package and find out what's going on.

Thanx for the peace of mind. Your prolly right.

monstergrotusque wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm sorta wondering if my package has been lost. I live in canada and it's been well over 14 days since the order shipped.

If you shipped USPS Air Mail, in my experience it can take up to a month for BBTS shipments to reach Canada. So much for Air Mail, right? It's probably partially due to Canada Customs delays.

If you shipped UPS, you should track your package and find out what's going on.

Thanx for the peace of mind. Your prolly right.

You're welcome. Hopefully it shows up soon. If it reaches a month and there's still no sign of it, you might want to send them an email just to see what's up. Though I don't think they can track it with Air Mail. Maybe try checking your post office first, it's not entirely unheard of for them to forget to send a delivery notice.

Finally got to ope my Seacons. Everything is there, nothing is missing as far as can tell. Everything is tight, some things are too tight even. Tentakill's squid head was so tight I was afraid I was going to snap it when I tried to move it for beast mode.

I have to give credit to Hasbro they actually managed to deliver a nice collector friendly box for once.

The Chrome is fantastic. My only issue is the connections for gestalt mode, feel kind of loose. Specially the feet to head connections.

Never managed to have complete a G1 scramble city gestalt when I was a kid so this is aweosme for e. Heck I connected my Protectobot limbs to Snap Trap, since I don't have a Hot Spot for them, just to see how they look combined.

I also connected my lone Nautilator that I've had since I was a kid to it. It was nice finally using that square peg. For years I wondered what it was for.

All in all I'm very happy with the purchase.
For 60 bucks is a great collector's item.

Overcracker wrote:Finally got to ope my Seacons. Everything is there, nothing is missing as far as can tell. Everything is tight, some things are too tight even. Tentakill's squid head was so tight I was afraid I was going to snap it when I tried to move it for beast mode.

I have to give credit to Hasbro they actually managed to deliver a nice collector friendly box for once.

The Chrome is fantastic. My only issue is the connections for gestalt mode, feel kind of loose. Specially the feet to head connections.

Never managed to have complete a G1 scramble city gestalt when I was a kid so this is aweosme for e. Heck I connected my Protectobot limbs to Snap Trap, since I don't have a Hot Spot for them, just to see how they look combined.

I also connected my lone Nautilator that I've had since I was a kid to it. It was nice finally using that square peg. For years I wondered what it was for.

All in all I'm very happy with the purchase.
For 60 bucks is a great collector's item.

I agree on the chrome part. It's excellent. One of the best examples I've ever seen. I will even give Hasbro credit for leaving the handle of the sword unchromed so it wouldn't wear down or chip. That was a very, very smart move.

And I have the same issue with things being too loose or too tight in spots. The legs are very wobbly and due to Nautilator's head being recessed and Tentakil's not, they're spaced a bit differently, and you have to shift everything to make Piranacon stand straight with no gaps and no off kilter look. I do worry that it's either stressing the port on his leg, or Nautilator's head. (The head would be worse, because if it snaps off, they're a pain in the ass to repair.)

I like the US G1 set up (same as how the reissue comes in box) but the legs being a bit off does worry me.

I see why they mixed and matched the limbs around, so it would break up the monotony of the color scheme, but I'm thinking that having them color coded (pink and pink as arms or legs, same with the gray and black) would make it more stable. I've tinkered with it countless times since opening it and I just haven't found a design to stick with, just yet.

I kinda like the God Neptune setup, but I don't care for Overbite as an arm. Way too skinny compared to the other limbs. I don't care for Nautilator as a weapon because he's too large with those beast legs and he doesn't work as an arm because of those legs.

The more I tinker with them, the more and more I see how non uniform they are and stuff like that bugs me. It doesn't ruin the set for me, but it does drive me nuts trying to find something that's stable and looks good at the same time.

Yeah, I'm still playing with it trying to find a stable combination. Nautilator proves to be difficult as an arm, and Overbite is just too thin.

Still I like the set a lot. I did come up with an uber-rifle mode for Nautilator, using one of the arms from the stands, and a bunch of the figures guns plugged in. Its quite heavy.

Overcracker wrote:Yeah, I'm still playing with it trying to find a stable combination. Nautilator proves to be difficult as an arm, and Overbite is just too thin.

Still I like the set a lot. I did come up with an uber-rifle mode for Nautilator, using one of the arms from the stands, and a bunch of the figures guns plugged in. Its quite heavy.

Making the superweapon seems like a great idea, but I must warn you, it's weighing him down towards the front, and it'll wear out the connector sockets or snap off one of the limb heads.

I used both Tentakil and Nautilator as the weapon, and they both had so much weight that they literally made Piranacon lean forward. I was really uneasy about it. I quickly switched it back to the packaged set up.

Tinkering with it gave me a good amount of time to study each of the figures in detail, and I've noticed something.

It's not just a matter of color coding as to why Piranacon is formed with Nautilator and Tentakil as the legs. It's because they're both larger and taller than the rest of the Seacons. Every other Seacon from Overbite to Skalor is at least a head shorter than Nautilator and Tentakil.

Now that I know this, I'm going to stick with the US G1/reissue setup. When you use them as arms, they really weigh down the top half and make him look like he's gonna topple over.

I'm not keeping him holding the uber-weapon.

Making Seawing a leg, and moving Tentakill to be an arm.