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News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:46 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:

Is that an official figure?

Yes.

Where else would the "Fire Guts" thing come from?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:46 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:

Is that an official figure?

Sure is. Fire Guts God Ginrai, an e-Hobby release. In red and orange to represent his ultimate Fire Guts attack, enveloped in flames of BURNING JUSTICE.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:48 am

Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:48 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In red and orange to represent his ultimate Fire Guts attack

"God Fire Guts".

And the same with his "Final Fire Guts" attack.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:50 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.

But Ginrai was the lead character (once he was introduced, that is). He was always around (after his debut).

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:56 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.
But Ginrai was the lead character (once he was introduced, that is). He was always around (after his debut).

I think he was referring to the Fire Guts toy not being around much. No idea on the actual numbers but there aren't a ton of them out there.

News Credits: 1 · by **bluecatcinema** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:02 pm

The colors are a little gaudy, but I like the shield.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:05 pm

Ahh 2 outta 5 to buy or not to buy? hmm...

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:09 pm

I am very concerned about how well this mold might be holding up. Other than that it's an interesting toy and I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle him in the fiction (I'm going to guess that the Club will NOT be portraying him as a Japanese trucker with a brown leather jacket merged with a robot body and using spiritual energy to be on fire).

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:10 pm

So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:

1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction

Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:11 pm

So Scorponok looks pretty cool and it's nice to be getting Devcon ...

:HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:13 pm

He really needs a sword.

I kind of like it, but not for convention prices.
I feel the same about Cannonball and Devcon too.
If they were retail releases or store exclusives I'd get them.

Ferak is a skip in any case.

I'll be on the lookout for Scorponok, but if I can't find him for a price I like, I'm content enough with the Energon one.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:18 pm

...Alrighty then. Not really what I wanted. But the remainder of the set is totally killer for me, so I might end up skipping MP-11 Starscream (*sob*) and getting this instead.

The "shield" works, I guess. Didn't know the mold was capable of holding it like that.

Now, what will the pair of two-packs and the army builder set be, I wonder...? :-?

by **RiddlerJ** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:19 pm

The Classics Prime mold again?

Kinda disappointing, especially after such a long wait. You follow up Scorponok with this?

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:21 pm

I'm down for Ferak and Ginrai. I know a lot of people want Scorponok and Devcon. Split the cost?

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:

1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction

Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.

It's a "Classics" universe set to me (despite their labeling of this "Wings" universe thing). Not major characters outside of Scorponok, but everything can be justifiably put on a Classics shelf if desired, Cannonball maybe being tougher to justify. That makes me happy but also sad, because my shelf space for Classics is dwindling down to nothing.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:

1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction

Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.

Now that I think about it, weren't Ferak and Tornado among the very first comic-original characters ever created? I mean, Ferak was one of the first ones Marvel US made, and Tornado one of the first Marvel UK made, right?

So that kinda make the selection of those two for this set really make a lot of sense.

And was there any memorable cartoon-original TF character that appeared before Devcon did? If he was the first, then that further helps bring sense to this.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:27 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:

Is that an official figure?
Yes.

Where else would the "Fire Guts" thing come from?

Looks like it's time to finish up the Fire Guts Ginrai gallery that I've been putting off until an appropriate time.

by **shockblast2** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:32 pm

......Really? :roll:

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:33 pm

ScottyP wrote:It's a "Classics" universe set to me (despite their labeling of this "Wings" universe thing). Not major characters outside of Scorponok, but everything can be justifiably put on a Classics shelf if desired, Cannonball maybe being tougher to justify. That makes me happy but also sad, because my shelf space for Classics is dwindling down to nothing.

Essentially, the Wings Universe is an alternate version of the G1 cartoon universe, in which the two have mostly the same history, only with the Wings Universe having some additional events that the cartoon didn't have, and certain characters having different bodies from those seen in the cartoon (like, Optimus has his cartoon body, but Hot Rod has his Universe 2.0 Legends class body). In a way, this world acts as a substitute Classics universe, as the real Classicverse got destroyed, which was a splinter timeline for Marvel G1 comics that, like ReG1, ignored the G2 comics and UK G1 comics.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:40 pm

Either way, if I do end up getting these, Scorponok and Ginrai are heading for my post-movie Classics display (along with Universe (2008) Powerglide, who's been off to the side waiting for an Ultra-class Decepticon foe to join him on said shelf [don't patronize me on why Powerglide should be there; I just like to keep things even]), and the remainder going to my catch-all Classics shelf. It needs more Decepticons, anyway; they're vastly outnumbered by Autobots, and it absolutely breaks my heart.