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by **gothsaurus** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:54 pm

I know it's a coincidence that the first figures have been blue. You guys DO know that they usually release some odd 15 figures each year for Botcon, right? :grin:

But on that note, I DO like to see a nice color scheme among the boxed set and/or teams. That's never a bad thing.

News Credits: 1 · by **Tranzilla** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:27 pm

I was thinking of something...

What if we got Onyx (pre bat) outta THIS GUY...

Onyx the Transtector. The ship DOES have bat-like nuances.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:36 pm

Battletrap isn't for me, but Packrat is. Since they do so many figures a year between the convention, club, and subscription service, I have definitely decided to only get the figures I really enjoy, especially since they're more on the expensive side...
I would love a new Onyx Primal!!!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:04 pm

Keep in mind Onyx Primal is just a founded guess based on his code, nothing else

We have Oilmaster and Onyx Primal for the Bounty Hunter, any real guesses for the rest of the gang?

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:17 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keep in mind Onyx Primal is just a founded guess based on his code, nothing else

We have Oilmaster and Onyx Primal for the Bounty Hunter, any real guesses for the rest of the gang?

The Loose Cannon ???: 426-2912S, well it could be Botcon 2012 SG Ricochet. 2012 could refer to the year when War Breakdown and Silas Breakdown were released. Nothing happened on February 9nth 2012. But you could interpret it as just the first two aspects of the date, day and month. Only thing that happened then were; Crispin Freeman (voice of Breakdown in War for Cybertron) was born in 72. Any characters with the Japanese ID number of 426?

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:18 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keep in mind Onyx Primal is just a founded guess based on his code, nothing else

We have Oilmaster and Onyx Primal for the Bounty Hunter, any real guesses for the rest of the gang?

The Loose Cannon ???: 426-2912S, well it could be Botcon 2012 SG Ricochet. 2012 could refer to the year when War Breakdown and Silas Breakdown were released. Nothing happened on February 9nth 2012. But you could interpret it as just the first two aspects of the date, day and month. Only thing that happened then were; Crispin Freeman (voice of Breakdown in War for Cybertron) was born in 72. Any characters with the Japanese ID number of 426?

BotCon in 2012 was from April 26th to 29th.

I'm putting it out there right now, as I do every year, if someone wants to split a set with me because you don't like all the figures, PM me and we'll see if we can do something, depending on what the rest of the figures are.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:09 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I know it's a coincidence that the first figures have been blue. You guys DO know that they usually release some odd 15 figures each year for Botcon, right?

I know, but maybe I demand that this year's set be all blue?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:07 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keep in mind Onyx Primal is just a founded guess based on his code, nothing else

We have Oilmaster and Onyx Primal for the Bounty Hunter, any real guesses for the rest of the gang?

The Loose Cannon ???: 426-2912S, well it could be Botcon 2012 SG Ricochet. 2012 could refer to the year when War Breakdown and Silas Breakdown were released. Nothing happened on February 9nth 2012. But you could interpret it as just the first two aspects of the date, day and month. Only thing that happened then were; Crispin Freeman (voice of Breakdown in War for Cybertron) was born in 72. Any characters with the Japanese ID number of 426?
BotCon in 2012 was from April 26th to 29th.

I'm putting it out there right now, as I do every year, if someone wants to split a set with me because you don't like all the figures, PM me and we'll see if we can do something, depending on what the rest of the figures are.

The Loose Cannon could very well be SG Ricochet from the RtS Jazz mold, as we saw a red Jazz redeco on Pete's desk in that one interview pic. The Loose Cannon's ID numbers match up for BotCon 2012 and contain "SG" at the end, so that could very well be it (despite SG Ricochet not actually appearing in the Invasion comic).

The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

The Bounty Hunter's ID numbers match up with BotCon 1996, at which Oilmaster's prototype was first revealed, and Oilmaster as a character was later made into a bounty hunter character. On Pete's desk was a redeco of the Generations Swerve/Gears mold in colors similar enough to Oilmaster's, and Oilmaster getting a big gorilla pretender shell of some kind could be the big thing that was previously hinted by the Club as being the mysterious "Better than BotCon 2014 Scorponok" exclusive.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:19 am

Sabrblade wrote:The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

If it's supposed to be a pseudo classics and/or prime movie megatron, then they wouldn't need a retooled the head of silas breakdown for the asymmetrical scarring

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:25 am

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

If it's supposed to be a pseudo classics and/or prime movie megatron, then they wouldn't need a retooled the head of silas breakdown for the asymmetrical scarring

Additionally, Breakdown's head was already kinda Movieverse Megatron head shaped, so it could work two-fold.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:31 am

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

If it's supposed to be a pseudo classics and/or prime movie megatron, then they wouldn't need a retooled the head of silas breakdown for the asymmetrical scarring
Additionally, Breakdown's head was already kinda Movieverse Megatron head shaped, so it could work two-fold.

This feels weird, when was the last time we figured out at least 5 potential club figures? I think never.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:39 am

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

If it's supposed to be a pseudo classics and/or prime movie megatron, then they wouldn't need a retooled the head of silas breakdown for the asymmetrical scarring
Additionally, Breakdown's head was already kinda Movieverse Megatron head shaped, so it could work two-fold.

This feels weird, when was the last time we figured out at least 5 potential club figures? I think never.

To be fair, that leaked pic from Pete's desk did help.

Though, SG Ricochet still has me feeling skeptical since the guy didn't really appear in "Invasion", but there's really no one else who could work as a red Jazz and has anything to do with BotCon 2012. A red Jazz to me would be more like Zoom-Zoom (which would be awesome, IMHO), but he's unrelated to BotCon 2012.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:49 am

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Boss's ID numbers point to the release date of the DOTM movie and possibly the December 4, 1984 release date of Issue #4 of the Marvel G1 comics. On Pete desk, we saw what looked like a redeco of the Silas Breakdown mold in DOTM Megatron colors.

If it's supposed to be a pseudo classics and/or prime movie megatron, then they wouldn't need a retooled the head of silas breakdown for the asymmetrical scarring
Additionally, Breakdown's head was already kinda Movieverse Megatron head shaped, so it could work two-fold.

This feels weird, when was the last time we figured out at least 5 potential club figures? I think never.
To be fair, that leaked pic from Pete's desk did help.

Though, SG Ricochet still has me feeling skeptical since the guy didn't really appear in "Invasion", but there's really no one else who could work as a red Jazz and has anything to do with BotCon 2012. A red Jazz to me would be more like Zoom-Zoom (which would be awesome, IMHO), but he's unrelated to BotCon 2012.

I don't know, the problem is outside of Packrat, and battletrap, and the fact there is a token SG character, this dosen't feel like a botcon set, it feels like one of the botcon digibash sets like

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:15 am

Sabrblade wrote:Though, SG Ricochet still has me feeling skeptical since the guy didn't really appear in "Invasion".

Is he official canon character? If so, I think it's acceptable, regardless of his inactivity.

News Credits: 86 · by **Powered Convoy** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:18 am

Maybe they're making Ricochet and the gold and white Jazz from the 2012 comic into two different guys.

Randy

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:54 am

Sabrblade wrote:The Bounty Hunter's ID numbers match up with BotCon 1996, at which Oilmaster's prototype was first revealed, and Oilmaster as a character was later made into a bounty hunter character. On Pete's desk was a redeco of the Generations Swerve/Gears mold in colors similar enough to Oilmaster's, and Oilmaster getting a big gorilla pretender shell of some kind could be the big thing that was previously hinted by the Club as being the mysterious "Better than BotCon 2014 Scorponok" exclusive.

EEEH, 'fraid not... sounds awful.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:52 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Though, SG Ricochet still has me feeling skeptical since the guy didn't really appear in "Invasion".
Is he official canon character? If so, I think it's acceptable, regardless of his inactivity.

He was the 2008 Attendee Freebee, redecoed from SG Jazz who was retooled from Cybertron Crosswise.

And he did appear in Invasion in a flashback, albeit miscolored:

He was supposed to be SG Longarm, the Customising Class figure, to boot

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:17 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Though, SG Ricochet still has me feeling skeptical since the guy didn't really appear in "Invasion".
Is he official canon character? If so, I think it's acceptable, regardless of his inactivity.

He was the 2008 Attendee Freebee, redecoed from SG Jazz who was retooled from Cybertron Crosswise.

And he did appear in Invasion in a flashback, albeit miscolored:

He was supposed to be SG Longarm, the Customising Class figure, to boot

That looks like Stepper to me. The black and gold are reversed.

The artist probably had no idea of the Ricochet-Stepper tie or what they did with the 2008 set.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:41 pm

Bleh, still nowhere closer to guessing the Loose Cannon's identity... especially with the "S" possibly meaning a number of things:

Shattered Glass
Switch (as in, switching sides)
Spawn (Unicron's Spawn)

It's driving me nuts, and will keep doing that until Tuesday. :BANG_HEAD: