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BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Eldorodimus » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:23 pm

Nice attempt at the evil Grimlock, I'm not completely sold on it however... Can't wait til animated Grimmy though. :D
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Nekoman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:48 pm

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Hyper-Chicken wrote:Grimlock is lackluster. Don't like those colors at all.
I am digging Jazz though. What mold is that? New?

Its Cybertron Crosswise. The head sculpt is new though.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby SoooTrypticon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 am

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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:58 am

Nekoman wrote:
Hyper-Chicken wrote:Grimlock is lackluster. Don't like those colors at all.
I am digging Jazz though. What mold is that? New?

Its Cybertron Crosswise. The head sculpt is new though.



I thought the head was new!
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Bonger » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:19 am

Hmm, too bad. I was hoping for a whole set of Classics repaints. I'm really not feeling this set right now. Might end up being a pass for me.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby emeraldbeacon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:32 am

So far, this set has two winners and two losers for me... Prime and Grimlock look like Hasbro wasn't even trying... BWX Megatron would have been an AWESOME choice for Grimlock (and would have given him the needed height to pull off being the bad@$$ he actually is. This guy just looks like Trypticon's baby brother... wimpy. And Prime... he's just a *VERY* basic recolor of his original form (red to magenta, blue to dark gray), with some 'battle damage' on him that won't be consistent over the whole figure. He looks less like a villain than a zombie, if you ask me.

Jazz and Goldbug, though, are pure win. Both sport significantly different looks than their original forms, not even accounting for the resculpting. Both are figures that've been very hard to find in a 'classics' type of sculpt.

I'm thinking that Starscream is going to make or break the set for me. If it is the Galaxy Force repaint we've just seen - well, we'll see. I'm still hoping (despite all contrary indications) for a resculpted Energon model, without the unnecessary battle damage.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Auto Bot » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:57 am

Why the heck repaint Grimlock into something not Grimlock? :???:
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby woosh » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:19 am

That looks like one of the ugliest jazzes in history. At least in my opinion.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby horus » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:27 am

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horus wrote:Edit: isnt that the grimlock that was on ebay some time ago?

The only one I ever saw that looked remotely like this one was the black and purple prototype for the original toy.



found the image, think you're right
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Dagon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:32 am

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Auto Bot wrote:Why the heck repaint Grimlock into something not Grimlock? :???:



Because it is a repaint? That's kind of the whole point behind a repaint?


Anyways, I'm also not fond of Jazz, and this entire set is starting to lose its appeal. Not to say that I wouldn't want one, but it's just not too thrilling.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby microclone » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:32 am

i'll admit, what makes me cringe about any hobby are exclusives. it appeals less to the appreciation of a mould for its own qualities rather than that of owning a rare version, in all the hobbies ive persued im happy to know that i just dont have the junkie completist mentality which items like this are made to torture.

i dont care for the moulds eitherway. jazz has had some effort put into it though.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Zeds » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:44 am

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So far I am not overly impressed with this set. I am sure that it will sell out and probably triple in price, but I think that I will pass on it.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby primal1 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:00 am

I'm usually not a hater- as a I love all things TF. I have the Dawn of Futures Past set and love it. (Don't get me started on how awesome last year's set was!) This set however, isn't doing it for me. I feel like this is a huge investment for what are essentially decal sets that could be bought through reprolabels for a fraction of the cost.

Perhaps they'll look cool when they're all assembled?

Also- Jazz? I feel like the style of his head doesn't quite match the body.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Auto Bot » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:28 am

The car and body just doesn't fit into Jazz.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Geekee1 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:25 pm

I really like the Grimlock repaint. I think the colors just work on that mold. I'm not a huge fan of the Cybertron Crosswise mold, so that's an instant turn off for me with Jazz. His paint scheme looks good though.

And secondly, what the hell guys? Last years set was too good and this years isn't good enough? Is everybody here frickin' Goldilocks?!
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby NuclearConvoy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:16 pm

Geekee1 wrote:I really like the Grimlock repaint. I think the colors just work on that mold. I'm not a huge fan of the Cybertron Crosswise mold, so that's an instant turn off for me with Jazz. His paint scheme looks good though.

And secondly, what the hell guys? Last years set was too good and this years isn't good enough? Is everybody here frickin' Goldilocks?!


Next year's set will be JUST right :P
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Auto Bot » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:37 pm

It's like a natural cycle of good and not good?
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby The Happy Locust » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:10 am

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Well, I'm less than Impressed. Jazz is cash worthy but Grimlock's a copout. They repainted Grimlock into Grimlock? I kinda prefer the Trypticon approach.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Auto Bot » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:39 am

This Grimlock is one repaint that doesn't make any sense. The mold didn't become somebody else. It's just Grimlock wearing an unfamiliar color. What's the logic in this?
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Tekka » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:43 am

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Jazz looks sexy IMO, will certainly pick him up if there is no Classics Jazz in the works.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Tigertrack » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:16 am

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Auto Bot wrote:This Grimlock is one repaint that doesn't make any sense. The mold didn't become somebody else. It's just Grimlock wearing an unfamiliar color. What's the logic in this?


Like the new evil Prime the logic is Grimlock is now evil and the Decepticon colors have been placed on them to try to sell the idea that this is a change that if in this alternate reality if they are evil, the colors they wear would change...

See it's always been about the colors they chose to wear. It was never about the badges or deeds. The colors of purple, dark grey, pastel green, dark blue, black those are evil colors when put together in combinations...

Megatron will be red and blue BTW. :grin:
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Rijie » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:00 am

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I'm favoring the Jazz mold here, even though he's not transformed properly. Grimlock looks okay, but I'm just not a huge fan of the Classic version's robot mode.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Auto Bot » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:55 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:This Grimlock is one repaint that doesn't make any sense. The mold didn't become somebody else. It's just Grimlock wearing an unfamiliar color. What's the logic in this?


Like the new evil Prime the logic is Grimlock is now evil and the Decepticon colors have been placed on them to try to sell the idea that this is a change that if in this alternate reality if they are evil, the colors they wear would change...

See it's always been about the colors they chose to wear. It was never about the badges or deeds. The colors of purple, dark grey, pastel green, dark blue, black those are evil colors when put together in combinations...

Megatron will be red and blue BTW. :grin:


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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby Counterpunch » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:28 pm

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PorQPine wrote:I'm favoring the Jazz mold here, even though he's not transformed properly. Grimlock looks okay, but I'm just not a huge fan of the Classic version's robot mode.


They transformed Jazz specifically to hide the back/side kibble.

kind of a weak move imo.
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Re: BotCon Jazz and Grimlock Revealed!

Postby rpetras » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:59 am

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I see a lot of love for the Jazz, but I'm just not feelin' it. :?

I was never a fan of the mold, and he looks too bobble-headed for me.

I kinda like Grimlock in the eeeevil colors. Very trypticon, as expected, but cool none the less.

Ironically the one I like best so far is goldbug. (I shudder at that sentence!)
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