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TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think trying to make sense of in store distribution is really just an exercise in frustration because even if you can come up with a decent overall rule of thumb, you will always have some regional variation that may not fit.
o.supreme wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think trying to make sense of in store distribution is really just an exercise in frustration because even if you can come up with a decent overall rule of thumb, you will always have some regional variation that may not fit.
Agreed 100%. I apologize if I come across combative sometimes, that is not my intent at all. To be perfectly honest, If there is any current item a REALLY want, yes I can find it online, one way or another, even if I have to pay higher than retail price. What I truly miss is the experience however. Living in a relatively large Suburban/City area, and having literally only two different chains to look for toys is wearisome, even if those two chains provide 30+ locations I can drive to in a relatively short distance. In this particular case I'm not trying to fight the future, I do order online quite a bit actually. I just wish some semblance of the fun of going to a store and seeing what you want to purchase, before you actually do, would still exist.
o.supreme wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think trying to make sense of in store distribution is really just an exercise in frustration because even if you can come up with a decent overall rule of thumb, you will always have some regional variation that may not fit.
Agreed 100%. I apologize if I come across combative sometimes, that is not my intent at all. To be perfectly honest, If there is any current item a REALLY want, yes I can find it online, one way or another, even if I have to pay higher than retail price. What I truly miss is the experience however. Living in a relatively large Suburban/City area, and having literally only two different chains to look for toys is wearisome, even if those two chains provide 30+ locations I can drive to in a relatively short distance. In this particular case I'm not trying to fight the future, I do order online quite a bit actually. I just wish some semblance of the fun of going to a store and seeing what you want to purchase, before you actually do, would still exist.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I get that, but I don't think Target is just sitting on a bunch of Kingdom or regular SS stuff and saying, lets wait until the Buzzworthy stuff moves. If they aren't getting enough from Hasbro, then that would be a completely separate thing and not really have anything to do with the Buzzworthy Bee line.
And really, seeing the same thing at Walmart really tends to say supply from Hasbro is lacking overall, and not as a result of the Buzzworthy Bee line existing.
o.supreme wrote:Either Target is ordering more Buzzworthy than other TF lines, or Hasbro is providing more Buzzworthy product to Target, than they are of their other TF lines.
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Either Target is ordering more Buzzworthy than other TF lines, or Hasbro is providing more Buzzworthy product to Target, than they are of their other TF lines.
Target can't order more of the line, they are the sole retailer, so they get all the product that Hasbro deemed for US allocation.
And yes, I think Target is getting more Buzzworthy wave 1 toys than, say, Kingdome Wave 2 toys for similar classes. Just like Target probably got more Thrusts than the Quintesson figures in Earthrise. That only makes sense since they are the exclusive provider of one and not the other. But I don't see how that's any kind of problem or impacts any other line. It just means you get some toys on your shelves instead of the it being constantly empty.
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Either Target is ordering more Buzzworthy than other TF lines, or Hasbro is providing more Buzzworthy product to Target, than they are of their other TF lines.
Target can't order more of the line, they are the sole retailer, so they get all the product that Hasbro deemed for US allocation.
And yes, I think Target is getting more Buzzworthy wave 1 toys than, say, Kingdome Wave 2 toys for similar classes. Just like Target probably got more Thrusts than the Quintesson figures in Earthrise. That only makes sense since they are the exclusive provider of one and not the other. But I don't see how that's any kind of problem or impacts any other line. It just means you get some toys on your shelves instead of the it being constantly empty.
I think the problem comes from the frustration of not being able to find what he wants in store.
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Either Target is ordering more Buzzworthy than other TF lines, or Hasbro is providing more Buzzworthy product to Target, than they are of their other TF lines.
Target can't order more of the line, they are the sole retailer, so they get all the product that Hasbro deemed for US allocation.
And yes, I think Target is getting more Buzzworthy wave 1 toys than, say, Kingdome Wave 2 toys for similar classes. Just like Target probably got more Thrusts than the Quintesson figures in Earthrise. That only makes sense since they are the exclusive provider of one and not the other. But I don't see how that's any kind of problem or impacts any other line. It just means you get some toys on your shelves instead of the it being constantly empty.
I think the problem comes from the frustration of not being able to find what he wants in store.
He's been harping about that for as long as I have known him. And the situation won't change. Buzzworthy line has nothing to do with it though.
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Either Target is ordering more Buzzworthy than other TF lines, or Hasbro is providing more Buzzworthy product to Target, than they are of their other TF lines.
Target can't order more of the line, they are the sole retailer, so they get all the product that Hasbro deemed for US allocation.
And yes, I think Target is getting more Buzzworthy wave 1 toys than, say, Kingdome Wave 2 toys for similar classes. Just like Target probably got more Thrusts than the Quintesson figures in Earthrise. That only makes sense since they are the exclusive provider of one and not the other. But I don't see how that's any kind of problem or impacts any other line. It just means you get some toys on your shelves instead of the it being constantly empty.
I think the problem comes from the frustration of not being able to find what he wants in store.
He's been harping about that for as long as I have known him. And the situation won't change. Buzzworthy line has nothing to do with it though.
Oh I know that, it's the way the world is going. He should try being in a different country
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Giant 1 step Bee and the core Bee with Spike are the 2 exceptions and haven't sold in my stores either, but also haven't been restocked with more being added.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Giant 1 step Bee and the core Bee with Spike are the 2 exceptions and haven't sold in my stores either, but also haven't been restocked with more being added.
Those seem to have been overproduced for sure, I can definitely agree with that. But I don't think that matters. Hasbro has said in the past that they want to have more affordable versions of popular characters available for any parent (that was their reasoning for the core class g1 characters). I guess that's where both bumblebees come into play. The idea behind those bumblebees, if I were to infer from what hasbro said in the past, is simply to have that character on the shelf all the time. Like all those random batman toys that you still see on the shelves. I don't see disparity in it. It's not meant for us, it's meant for any kid's birthday or whatever and it shows that Transformers have reached the point where Bumblebee is as much of a fixture of childhood as Batman.
By the way, I will be moving this conversation to the Bumblebee thread tonight. You can respond to this message here if you need to , no worries.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Giant 1 step Bee and the core Bee with Spike are the 2 exceptions and haven't sold in my stores either, but also haven't been restocked with more being added.
Those seem to have been overproduced for sure, I can definitely agree with that. But I don't think that matters. Hasbro has said in the past that they want to have more affordable versions of popular characters available for any parent (that was their reasoning for the core class g1 characters). I guess that's where both bumblebees come into play. The idea behind those bumblebees, if I were to infer from what hasbro said in the past, is simply to have that character on the shelf all the time. Like all those random batman toys that you still see on the shelves. I don't see disparity in it. It's not meant for us, it's meant for any kid's birthday or whatever and it shows that Transformers have reached the point where Bumblebee is as much of a fixture of childhood as Batman.
By the way, I will be moving this conversation to the Bumblebee thread tonight. You can respond to this message here if you need to , no worries.
o.supreme wrote:I went to one to the nicer outlying walmarts about 3 weeks ago, they didn't have much, but they got a TON of the new Core Class, must have been at least 20 of the new Megatron & Starscream on the pegs, along with some leftover from wave 1. I went back there last week, and surprisingly they were all Gone.
But just to keep things real, the below picture was taken at my closest walmart Tuesday. For the past several years, I have always endeavored to straighten up the TF section in every store I go in. This time I just said...forget it, if they don't care, why should I? My apologies, it's probably just one contributing factor to my foul mood lately. Hopefully i'll get out of this funk soon.
william-james88 wrote:And you have a nice offering of Power Rangers figures, I had to order those online.
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:And you have a nice offering of Power Rangers figures, I had to order those online.
If they didn't have those in stock then they wouldn't have a PR section. Walmart basically cut the line down to strictly action figures and role play and sometime those big 10" soap bottle Zords. They entirely skipped the combining Beast Morphers Zords and will probably do the same with Dino Fury. They did get the "Buildable" Dino Zords, but retailers will always prioritize MMPR.
Emerje
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