DreadstarCybph wrote:@Stormrider - as it should be.
Just got a text message that both chinese market and KO versions Mp12 are now available in 1 of our local store that sells ko and originals. Despite my taobao purchases, Heading out to get them today.
I'll be uploading the pics later.
Japan Import for China Market Release
Wholesale box - Same as Japan release ,
Order no.: is different.
Carton box numbering for inventory indicated.
Toy Box is same (its slightly longer than the KO)
Box Art - Sideswipe is glossy
- background is flat
Hologram - same as japan release
Instruction Sheet - same as japan release
Character Card - Same as japan release
Figure - Correct head, evil eyes
color - Deep red
paint job - smooth
joints movement - same as original
Headlights - have black trims on the edges
smell - same
Weight - same as original
Illegal/ KO MP12
Wholesale box - Longer than the original.
Order number - same as the Japanese Release.
Carton box number for inventory - empty
Box Art - Sideswipe is glossy
- background is glossy also
Hologram - same as japan release (The whole gold and rainbow is just light angle)
Instruction sheet - same as original
Character Card - not as sharp as original. The lower part of the letter M in the word masterpiece shows evidences it had been scanned
Figure - Tiger Track Head, rectangular eyes
color - a little reddish orange
paint job - easily chips off - which reveals yellow paint under it.
joints movement - same as original
Headlights - none (correct news )
smell - same
Weight - same as original
Conclusion - the KO MP12 is a completely repainted Tiger tracks. This would account for the head, its orange reddish (red + yellow underneath) color and the poor paint job. Evidences that this were produced and marketed by another factory - in my book -0%. Am extremely glad the the Japan import China market release is true.
My Big question is why the chinese fan site like actoys is not reporting the release of mp12 in their retail market. Why did they not pick up the item is a repainted tigertracks?
DreadstarCybph wrote:I know I will be ridiculed for this. But, there seems to be no info or lack of news about either Hasbro or Takara Tomy items being release on the regular retail market in mainland china. It never bothered me until Death Metal raised it up. Could it be, 6 months after the Japanese and HK release, Hasbro.Cn or TakaraTomy release their china retail items, so stuffs in the market are kinda old news to the die hard fans (who join forums) (since most of them will have the HK release or the japanese release by then) and the stuff are considered stale and are not news worthy mentioning anymore?
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Maybe the Tigertracks figs aren't selling nearly as well as they thought, and TT decided to re-purpose them as Lambor re-releases?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Maybe the Tigertracks figs aren't selling nearly as well as they thought, and TT decided to re-purpose them as Lambor re-releases?
No, no and no. That's the same type of thinking behind "repackaged" figures actually being repackaged unsold figures, while they're actually reissues in different packaging.
DreadstarCybph wrote:Skywarped_128 - I don't think tigertrack was not selling well. More likely the tiger track run was over produced for the limited no. of pcs. required by TakaraTomy. Let's say - Takara ordered 2,000 pcs and the factory actually produced 3,000 pcs under the noses of the Takara reps at the plant. They present Takara the 2000 pcs, takara reps retrieve the moulding plates, returns to HQ to store them in their vaults. Factory boss barks "okay boys and girls, repaint them yellows as reds" Items gets re painted and shipped to a dummy company that sells the stuff.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DreadstarCybph wrote:Skywarped_128 - I don't think tigertrack was not selling well. More likely the tiger track run was over produced for the limited no. of pcs. required by TakaraTomy. Let's say - Takara ordered 2,000 pcs and the factory actually produced 3,000 pcs under the noses of the Takara reps at the plant. They present Takara the 2000 pcs, takara reps retrieve the moulding plates, returns to HQ to store them in their vaults. Factory boss barks "okay boys and girls, repaint them yellows as reds" Items gets re painted and shipped to a dummy company that sells the stuff.
If that really is the case, TakaraTomy could arguably sue the factory for breach of contract through overproduction and not destroying the excess.
Have you seen the cars Chinese companies are producing these days? They are blatant ripoffs of Japanese and European cars and there is nothing that can be done about it because the government is backing the companiesnjb902 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DreadstarCybph wrote:Skywarped_128 - I don't think tigertrack was not selling well. More likely the tiger track run was over produced for the limited no. of pcs. required by TakaraTomy. Let's say - Takara ordered 2,000 pcs and the factory actually produced 3,000 pcs under the noses of the Takara reps at the plant. They present Takara the 2000 pcs, takara reps retrieve the moulding plates, returns to HQ to store them in their vaults. Factory boss barks "okay boys and girls, repaint them yellows as reds" Items gets re painted and shipped to a dummy company that sells the stuff.
If that really is the case, TakaraTomy could arguably sue the factory for breach of contract through overproduction and not destroying the excess.
You really think a Chinese court would help a Japanese company?
william-james88 wrote:So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
If that really is the case, TakaraTomy could arguably sue the factory for breach of contract through overproduction and not destroying the excess.
DreadstarCybph wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
If that really is the case, TakaraTomy could arguably sue the factory for breach of contract through overproduction and not destroying the excess.
They can't sue the factory cause Takara TOMY first have to find this dummy company , which more or less will fold up once the stocks are sold out.The factory owner will just say he's innocent, it was ko'ed by somebody else and give them a blank stare.
And the thing about chinese ripping off car designs and other stuffs is all true. Heck, they don't fear nobody. Wasn't it recently their government managed to hack and steal US military aircraft designs? Bandai China also sued TT Homgli for ripping off their gundam model kits. What did TT Hongli do? Just renamed their company. >_<
DreadstarCybph wrote:Skywarped_128 - I don't think tigertrack was not selling well. More likely the tiger track run was over produced for the limited no. of pcs. required by TakaraTomy. Let's say - Takara ordered 2,000 pcs and the factory actually produced 3,000 pcs under the noses of the Takara reps at the plant. They present Takara the 2000 pcs, takara reps retrieve the moulding plates, returns to HQ to store them in their vaults. Factory boss barks "okay boys and girls, repaint them yellows as reds" Items gets re painted and shipped to a dummy company that sells the stuff.
And also, the china release mp 12 is no special run. Most likely , it was percentage set aside from the initial run . Why the late release I don't know (could be a trade dispute or the senkaku island dispute) and why there is no report on the well known fan site, I dunno either.
Like I said before - meaning of words usually gets loss in translation especially if you''re not a local to that language of that area and, if you are using an online translator.
Stormrider wrote:Takara really should pack up and move productions to Vietnam or Thailand as they claimed they would do 2 years ago. I wouldn't mind paying $5 more a figure if it meant better quality figures and avoiding these crappy KO games.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Stormrider wrote:Takara really should pack up and move productions to Vietnam or Thailand as they claimed they would do 2 years ago. I wouldn't mind paying $5 more a figure if it meant better quality figures and avoiding these crappy KO games.
For some lines they actually have. Production seems to be split now.
ZenPrime wrote:Sorry to drag this thread back from the depths... Recently BBTS just restocked MP-12 Sideswipe stating it's a second run of the figure and that all the QC issue have been resolved with this second run. How come the Japanese online retailers have not listed any stock for the second run of this figure? Is there any chance that BBTS' "second run" stock are KO figures? I mean it happened with Encore Metroplex....
Thank you for writing.
We too are aware of the reissue of MP-12, but we have not been officially informed by TakaraTomy, so we cannot start accepting order for it.
We will start accepting pre-order for it as soon as we receive the news from the manufacturer.
Cyberpath wrote:ZenPrime wrote:Sorry to drag this thread back from the depths... Recently BBTS just restocked MP-12 Sideswipe stating it's a second run of the figure and that all the QC issue have been resolved with this second run. How come the Japanese online retailers have not listed any stock for the second run of this figure? Is there any chance that BBTS' "second run" stock are KO figures? I mean it happened with Encore Metroplex....
I have been wondering the same thing. So last month I asked one of the Japanese online stores, and here's their reply:Thank you for writing.
We too are aware of the reissue of MP-12, but we have not been officially informed by TakaraTomy, so we cannot start accepting order for it.
We will start accepting pre-order for it as soon as we receive the news from the manufacturer.
ZenPrime wrote:It's no longer on preorder status on BBTS it's in stock. So that makes me wonder where BBTS and TFSource are getting their second run stock from when the Japanese retailers haven't even confirmed a second run....
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