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i hope its fake because there will be more humans than robots...again. there might as well not be any robots in the film at all.

i bet this list is dead on and i can see the future - "fans complain about lack of robots in tf2"

NOOOOOOOO!!!! NOT MORE HUMANS!!!!!!!!!

I'm just curious why people can't seem to grasp the concept that if you have a handfull of alien robots who land on a planet with roughly 6 BILLION fleshlings, it kind of stands to reason that having some human characters in the cast might actually help the flow of the movie. I, for one, am mature enough to find the prospect of sitting on my butt in a theatre for 2+ hours watching nothing but non-stop robot-on-robot gratuitous violence to be an extremely piss-poor use of my money. Go park your butts in front of your PS3's for a few hours with some mech-shooter game if thats all you folks are after. You simply can't create a decent storyline for the situation the TF's are in without the human characters and the first movie would not have broken the box-office records that it did had the human roles been minimized to the point that many of you folks are asking for. Spielberg is ultimately behind this whole project, so therefore you are not going to get your wish anyway.

As for the actors involved, I personally liked the theoretical listing from the top of the page that included Wil Smith and Donald Trump. Before the TF Movie series ends, I would love to see Samuel L. Jackson in a military role going up against the 'Cons. He made for an o.k. Jedi master but he would rock going against Megatron.
That clash of attitude would make even Prime step back and I could see Jackson being best buds with Ironhide by the end of a movie.
And I'll bet he would jump at the chance to star in it...

Chuck - Christopher Mintz-Plasse

US Military - Derek Luke

UK Military Special Forces - Jason Statham

Galloway - Michael Hogan

Professor Colan - Sebastian Roche

Theresa - Regina King

Momma Simmons - Doris Roberts

Massive Dynamics CEO - Sam Waterston

Texas Congressman - Fred Thompson

FBI Director - Mitch Pileggi

CNN Reporter - Catherine Bell

Hmm...
So much for "the robots will take center stage!"
Too many humans Bay!
I don't know if the constructicons will appear, seems unlikely for reasons already specified. Brakedown seems o.k to me though.For pot luck, I bet my money on a Tidal wave like character, who acts as a mobile command center for Starscream and the others, maybe helping Starscream betray Megs? I dunno.

Shivers ran down my spine (good shivers) when I read the word "constructicons" and I can not wait! I'm ok with the "Bonecrusher" being named something else. It's better than "Devastator" in the movie. Just as long as construction vehicles merge to form a combiner I'm ok. It's the movie-verse, it's outside the box/ allspark cube.

Re: Character-Breakdown For Transformers 2? (672223)
Posted by HybridHero on April 4th, 2008 @ 12:55am CDT

Chuck = Chip Chase

Chuck = Hunter O'nion

TOO MANY HUMANS!

All we need is Sam and Mikaela (she better be in it).

Bonecrusher must be in this if they want Constructicons he's perfect.

And i will say it again, but Megatron better be back in this one.

personalyy i dont see why they cant use bonecrusher name for every transformer fan that uses the net to get information before the trailers do they would know bonecrusher is a typo and alos poeple who bought his figure to which i say they should have put it on the dvd when it was released to explaing to some fans that dont get information on the net about the film tell them bonecrushers name was just typo and if they decide to use his name in the ssequel small amount of fans wont get confused comaped to the fans that checks out the films status and ifon on the net like we do.

It's understandable that they'd need human characters to help general audiences relate, but when they have four times as many humans as Transformers, and they act more cartoonish than the robots, it leaves me wanting to see the robots that much more.

WTF, reading about all these human characters is pissing me off! i garauntee that they are going to be useless and take up most of the camera time than the TRANSFORMERS...

DON'T DO IT MICHAEL BAY!!

T-Macksimus wrote:I'm just curious why people can't seem to grasp the concept that if you have a handfull of alien robots who land on a planet with roughly 6 BILLION fleshlings, it kind of stands to reason that having some human characters in the cast might actually help the flow of the movie. I, for one, am mature enough to find the prospect of sitting on my butt in a theatre for 2+ hours watching nothing but non-stop robot-on-robot gratuitous violence to be an extremely piss-poor use of my money. Go park your butts in front of your PS3's for a few hours with some mech-shooter game if thats all you folks are after.

THANK YOU!

People need to realise you can't film these movies any other way. Try going to a studio and pitching an idea for a 2-and-a-half-hour robot battle-fest movie, all CGI in a real world environment... with no humans.

Do you have any idea how much that would cost?!

My god, they built that Bumblebee model for upwards of 100 000$ and that was just to save money on a HANDFUL of CGI shots that were replaced with the model.

Wanting a TF movie with only TFs is like wanting Jurassic Park with only dinosaurs, Sure, it SOUNDS cool - but in reality it would be lame, unrealistic crap-out.

I've really come to believe that the fans of this franchise don't know what they really want or what they would really enjoy. The fandom's track-record on early-judgments is pretty piss-poor if you ask me. (*cough cough Beast Wars, TF Movie '07, TF: Animated, etc.)

T-Macksimus wrote:I'm just curious why people can't seem to grasp the concept that if you have a handfull of alien robots who land on a planet with roughly 6 BILLION fleshlings, it kind of stands to reason that having some human characters in the cast might actually help the flow of the movie. I, for one, am mature enough to find the prospect of sitting on my butt in a theatre for 2+ hours watching nothing but non-stop robot-on-robot gratuitous violence to be an extremely piss-poor use of my money. Go park your butts in front of your PS3's for a few hours with some mech-shooter game if thats all you folks are after. You simply can't create a decent storyline for the situation the TF's are in without the human characters and the first movie would not have broken the box-office records that it did had the human roles been minimized to the point that many of you folks are asking for. Spielberg is ultimately behind this whole project, so therefore you are not going to get your wish anyway.

As for the actors involved, I personally liked the theoretical listing from the top of the page that included Wil Smith and Donald Trump. Before the TF Movie series ends, I would love to see Samuel L. Jackson in a military role going up against the 'Cons. He made for an o.k. Jedi master but he would rock going against Megatron.
That clash of attitude would make even Prime step back and I could see Jackson being best buds with Ironhide by the end of a movie.
And I'll bet he would jump at the chance to star in it...

Some of us aren't asking for no humans...we're asking for a modest number of humans in supporting roles (except for, say, Sam). Ten new human characters?! You've got to be frigging kidding me. Thank God for Transformers Animated where the human characters are, for the most part, firmly in their place - subordinate.

I really dont care about the humans.
I am only interested in Sams friend with the conspiracy theory website.

We don't know how much screentime these character will get or if even they will exist in the sequel, seeing as that Bay is pretty much doing a Cloverfield on us here. For now, I will say that they seem like fun characters in descirption.

One more thing, Jack Desena for Chuck

I Dont see what the problem is with the human cast.
Most of those characters get like one scene max.

I think it's funny how agant Simmons has to work/live with his momma in the sequel. LOL


As for the constructicons, I want to see what they name him. He could just have the name of the other combinders. A G1 combinder with a G2 RID name?--it sounds like it sucks--not to mention the whole "devestator" ,bonecrusher issue that is now "resurected" no pun intended

It's ok if 90% of the new human characters will be killed off in the first 5 minutes of the movie.

Makes it more realistic.

Auto Bot wrote:It's ok if 90% of the new human characters will be killed off in the first 5 minutes of the movie.

Makes it more realistic.

Yay. true. I know we need humans but why so many? I dpn't want to see a woman saving her deli with Jazzs help, or how Prime and Ice t got their grrove back, I wanna see hard 'bot action.
Too many humans (or robots) spoil the broth...

In light of what has been said regarding michael bay leaking false info, i would recommend that we all watch carefully and dont let the fanboy inside get us too excited. If the last movie taught us anything at all we should know that this film will probably not live up to the hype anyway. yes we can count on human characters wasting all the screen time, yes we can count on blatant product placement, along with dialog that makes the heroes sound less heroic and the villains less evil. remember that all the GOOD ideas we hear about will probably turn out to be false anyway and no matter which way you slice it we will all be dissappointed in one way or the other. but we should all be grateful that they even decided to make a live action transformers film in the first place because this all just as easily could have been a hoax on some messageboard. and then we'd all have a lot less nerdy crap to talk about. yay for transformers 2! yay for taking what we can get! "all hail megatron"

All of this seems very plausible to me. I'm wondering if Massive Dynamics and its "Automated Defense Initiative" is being used as a cover for what happened to parts of Mission City? Towards the end of the movie, it was revealed that they were going to try and cover up what really happened to Mission City. They were going to try and cover up the existence of the robots and have the Bush administration take some of the blame instead.

I'm wondering if Massive Dynamic's CEO is part of that cover by going before Congress and lying to them. Saying that the destroyed buildings and roads were the result of an accidental release of missiles by his company's top secret "Automated Defense Initiative" that's being created for the U.S. military. Or that terrorists hijacked his company's developing defense weapon to strike at the United States. And that he and is company are to blame for such a hijacking, because there wasn't enough security. Or something like that.

Somebody on Michael Bay's forum posted that Prime will be battliing some giant "multi-assembly robot" with two light swords like Krotos in "God Of War". Him taking on and chopping up Devestator like that would be AWESOME!

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T-Macksimus wrote:I'm just curious why people can't seem to grasp the concept that if you have a handfull of alien robots who land on a planet with roughly 6 BILLION fleshlings, it kind of stands to reason that having some human characters in the cast might actually help the flow of the movie. I, for one, am mature enough to find the prospect of sitting on my butt in a theatre for 2+ hours watching nothing but non-stop robot-on-robot gratuitous violence to be an extremely piss-poor use of my money. Go park your butts in front of your PS3's for a few hours with some mech-shooter game if thats all you folks are after.

THANK YOU!

People need to realise you can't film these movies any other way. Try going to a studio and pitching an idea for a 2-and-a-half-hour robot battle-fest movie, all CGI in a real world environment... with no humans.

Do you have any idea how much that would cost?!

My god, they built that Bumblebee model for upwards of 100 000$ and that was just to save money on a HANDFUL of CGI shots that were replaced with the model.

Wanting a TF movie with only TFs is like wanting Jurassic Park with only dinosaurs, Sure, it SOUNDS cool - but in reality it would be lame, unrealistic crap-out.

I've really come to believe that the fans of this franchise don't know what they really want or what they would really enjoy. The fandom's track-record on early-judgments is pretty piss-poor if you ask me. (*cough cough Beast Wars, TF Movie '07, TF: Animated, etc.)

Yeah, but they've already made 100% photo realistic CGI movies. It can be done for a decent cost.

They are adding the human element, because they feel no one will relate to it and want to see it unless it has one.

I don't have a problem with humans per se. I just have a problem with boring, stupid, and cliche humans who only subtract from the plot. The problem with the first movie is that the humans were exactly what I stated for the most part. That, and the fact that the Transformers didn't receive nearly as much time as they did.

moldavite wrote:Somebody on Michael Bay's forum posted that Prime will be battliing some giant "multi-assembly robot" with two light swords like Krotos in "God Of War". Him taking on and chopping up Devestator like that would be AWESOME!

That will make Prime too powerful. Such gigantic menacing Decepticon cut down to size by a sole warrior, will make the Decepticons less of a menace to start with.

I'm probably gonna get a ton of flak for saying this, sorry in advance, but I really hope all the Constructicons are NOT in the second movie. Bringing back 'dead' characters (or characters that really should be, I'm not into the 'your heads gone! lets fix you... good as new!') it cheapens things a bit I find. That's why I'm really hoping they don't play the Galvatron card either.

Bay can always opt for other names for the missing Devastator members. It's an entirely different universe anyway.

Auto Bot wrote:

moldavite wrote:Somebody on Michael Bay's forum posted that Prime will be battliing some giant "multi-assembly robot" with two light swords like Krotos in "God Of War". Him taking on and chopping up Devestator like that would be AWESOME!

That will make Prime too powerful. Such gigantic menacing Decepticon cut down to size by a sole warrior, will make the Decepticons less of a menace to start with.

Well, in the comic books, Prime took down Devestator with a powerful shot from his weapon. Why would battling Devestator alone make him too powerful. It isn't necessarily size or brute strength. It's skill. If he could dodge Devestator enough and stab him in the right places, he may be able to take him down.

But who's to say Prime comes out in one piece? He may defeat Devestator, but injure himself badly in the process.