The Energon Pub

T.V. wrote:You should've started a week earlier Ra88. The weather was perfect, at the time!;)

I know, but when I wanted to start it was too hot for the paint I was using.

And daaaamn, that new mask looks nice, Loqi!

Ra88 wrote:And daaaamn, that new mask looks nice, Loqi!

I second that!

Very, very nice Lord_Loqi!

The face underneath mask looks like he has some sort of "good" left in him. Don't know if that was intentional, but still looks mighty fine so far.

T.V. wrote:

Lord_Loqi wrote:How's this. just a little compromise cause I really really really like the way thefirst helmet turned out to begin with. basically it's what Don did with Bumblebee's facemask. The two prongs on the inside of the facepplate will pop into place where optimus's horns used to go.

please excuse the cheapskates-r-us color pencils we have here at work.

Really a nice try, but I was envisioning more of an welder's mask kinda rotation (WWI Jetfire?) involving the complete front part of the helmet, instead of only a movable mouthplate.

And I think your first helmet design kicks arse, too!

Between this 2nd attempt and the 'fixed' 1st model, I'd definately prefer if the 1st is used.

I tried sketching that idea out and I just wasn't too impressed with how it cameout. that and the armor was supposedly supposed to be romanish and the romans didn't have the foldback plating your refering to. The roman gladiators had removable face masks on hinges but they mostly rotated to the sides. I know your thinking of gladiator by now and while they did have the ability to cast the helmet pieces whats his face wore(EDIT TITUS) it's not something a soldier would have worn.

Oh yeah Loqi, what kind of colors does Eternus have anyways? Never heard anything about that.

Lord_Loqi wrote:I got some pics of vector prime to see how to draw all the details from Remy's site (thanks again for the link ISK). The bulkyness of the mold is due to the wing assembly. So it's bulky figure or no wings. I decided to go with the wings. Once i actually get the figure in hand I'll see what I can actually trim down but so far I've can't tell yet.

Oh ya the colors. I'll decide for sure when all the color tests ar done but the intent is to be mostly gold with balck trim and maroon. all the highlight areas will be the same color aqua as the sword that comes with vevtor prime. (intentively) also I'm filling in the hole where the minicon hooks up. no minicon.

Ra88. Are you writing the sword as metal or energy based? will help out on the color tests.

Lord_Loqi wrote:

Lord_Loqi wrote:I got some pics of vector prime to see how to draw all the details from Remy's site (thanks again for the link ISK). The bulkyness of the mold is due to the wing assembly. So it's bulky figure or no wings. I decided to go with the wings. Once i actually get the figure in hand I'll see what I can actually trim down but so far I've can't tell yet.

Oh ya the colors. I'll decide for sure when all the color tests ar done but the intent is to be mostly gold with balck trim and maroon. all the highlight areas will be the same color aqua as the sword that comes with vevtor prime. (intentively) also I'm filling in the hole where the minicon hooks up. no minicon.

Ra88. Are you writing the sword as metal or energy based? will help out on the color tests.

Oops. But too bad Vector Prime's already silver and gold, cause those colors would have looked good on Eternus if you ask me, mainly due to the while good king theme.

Hey Lord_Loqi,

I'm not sure what's going on here, but out of the 5 times I viewed this topic, I've only been able to view your pictures of Eternus once. Are you removing and then reposting them, or is this just some kind of glitch or something?

Please let me know, and if possible, could you e-mail me pics. I'm not sure if I will be able to see them in the forum.

Thanks,

I haven't done anything to the pics. are you sure your on the correct page. this reply is currently on page 6 of 6. the eternus pic is torwads the end of page 5. If you still can't find it I'll try and pm you a copy.

Yeah, I looked on page 5 before page 6 was created. Out of the 5 times I viewed that page; I only seen the Eternus pic once (it was the full body shot). I justed tried to view it again, and even refreshed the page, but no go.

Sorry, but could you PM or e-mail me so pics?

Thanks,

well,since my pics arent getting up as soon as id thought,i decided to go ahead and show an altered rampage from tfu to look like mine.sorry.it looks like complete crap in this pic,plus things are misisng.for example,the purple antenae arent there,and the swivel with the wheel and two legs has the legs off and is turned around.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/wheeljacktank/erg.bmp

Hello!

Here are my first changes of the BW Tigerhawk figure that I'm remaking into the Vok emissary Merceron. I've turned the tail/waist piece around so that it faces backwards (It looks better), and I've began to resculpt and repaint his head (I used the method that my dad taught me years ago; drybrushing). I still have more to do on the sides of the head, but the main face is done. Take a look, and tell me what you think.

Merceron's Head (Close-Up):


Merceron's Head (Side-View):


Merceron's Full Body:


Merceron Triumphant:


Here's the preliminary sketch I did (I digicolored it since I don't have any good coloring materials):

Merceron's Preliminary Head Sketch:


Thanks, and I hope you like it.

One for you all to enjoy but mainly I'm posting this WiP of Deceptor so that Ra88 can tell me if I've made any major errors in the design before I start inking...

http://www.deviantart.com/view/18305139/

The wings will be added shortly - hope you like him Ra

fourth_heir wrote:One for you all to enjoy but mainly I'm posting this WiP of Deceptor so that Ra88 can tell me if I've made any major errors in the design before I start inking...

http://www.deviantart.com/view/18305139/

The wings will be added shortly - hope you like him Ra

*Drools* That looks sweeeeeeeeeet! Nice job, Fourth Heir! But I don't really like how his mouth turned out, though...Maybe you can put some kind of gasmask over it? Oh yeah, and what's that thing next to his hand? It looks like a thumb, but if it is, then it has a really odd position.

His thumb is spread because he's leaning forward on that hand though I suppose I could just as easily tuck it under in a clenched fist instead. As for the face - it's taken direct from the photos you provided. Have you altered the sculpt since then?

Glad you like it otherwise

Looking pretty cool so far, fouth-heir.

I'll see if I can possibly lend a helping hand in any of the boxarts if anyone needs them sometime after I finish finals.

AcidWing wrote:Looking pretty cool so far, fouth-heir.

I'll see if I can possibly lend a helping hand in any of the boxarts if anyone needs them sometime after I finish finals.

Quick question: Since I'm having Fourth_Heir do my Delphinia figure, and he's going to have to do at least 5 drawings for her (Delphie & Einia's Robot Modes, both of Delphinia's Robot Modes, and Delphinia's Alt Mode); maybe you could draw my Merceron figure (if that's O.K. with fourth_heir too, of course). What do you think?

Thanks.

fourth_heir wrote:His thumb is spread because he's leaning forward on that hand though I suppose I could just as easily tuck it under in a clenched fist instead. As for the face - it's taken direct from the photos you provided. Have you altered the sculpt since then?

Glad you like it otherwise

Compared the toypics to the artwork, and I've discovered the problem. The fangs are to small and the chin to shirt, making it look stubby while it's in reality longer with bigger fangs. I included a pic to signify what I'm talking about. And for the hand, how about spreading his fingers to make him look like he's supporting his bodyweight on it? Because right now it looks a bit monkeylike.

Hello Everyone!

It's Update Time!

I've made some progress on Merceron since my last WIP pics. I've added a nosecone and extra wings to his jet mode, painted his arms and nosecone, and removed his tiger ears (to further alter his beast mode so it's not Earthly).

I still have to add a longer neck for his beast mode (to, once again, alter it more), remove the Maximal symbol from his chest, add hip panels and then do final puttying, sanding, and painting.

But I have a couple of ideas that I would like to have anybody's opinions about:

1. You know that clear-green sphere on the robot's shoulder that looks like it has a chair inside of it? Can that be where Eternus sits during Jet mode?

2. Should I do any further alterations than the ones listed above? If so, what should I do? BTW, in the last WIP pics, I modified his head and reversed the tail section.

But anyways, what everybody wants to see, the WIP pics!

Merceron's Robot Mode (Angle):


Merceron's Robot Mode (Front):


Merceron's Jet Mode (Side w/Landing Gear Down):


Merceron's Jet Mode (Top):


Merceron's Beast Mode (Side):


Merceron's Beast Mode (Front):


Take a look, and tell me what you think. Thanks,

Ra88 wrote:Compared the toypics to the artwork, and I've discovered the problem. The fangs are to small and the chin to shirt, making it look stubby while it's in reality longer with bigger fangs. I included a pic to signify what I'm talking about. And for the hand, how about spreading his fingers to make him look like he's supporting his bodyweight on it? Because right now it looks a bit monkeylike.

I see what you mean about the face - I imagine the camera angle on the reference photo I used is to blame for that one - it shouldn't be a problem to fix. His proportions are pretty monkeylike which is why I opted for such a pose but I'll see how spread fingers look

Now this is looking way better than your previous attempt on kitbashing MS; I don't like the robot head painting too much though, looks kinda rough.

MetalSamamon wrote:1. You know that clear-green sphere on the robot's shoulder that looks like it has a chair inside of it? Can that be where Eternus sits during Jet mode?

How could Eternus sit inside Merceron's vehicle mode, isn't it eternus as big or bigger than Merceron?

If we use this idea we'll end up with weird scenes like the one in the movie with Galvatron inside Cyclonus cockpit.

But as an alternative, maybe Merceron can generate a giant solid-hologram ship, kinda like Green Lantern could do.

Iskander wrote:Now this is looking way better than your previous attempt on kitbashing MS; I don't like the robot head painting too much though, looks kinda rough.

Well, I discovered the problem! It's not me; it's actually the paint! The silver that I had used was getting old and became clumpy. That's why it looks so rough. But the good news is that I bought new silver paint, and used that on the other silver areas of Merceron.

Iskander wrote:How could Eternus sit inside Merceron's vehicle mode, isn't it eternus as big or bigger than Merceron?

Read Merceron's bio. He size-changes and becomes massive in his jet mode. When in beast and robot modes, he's about the same height as Eternus.

Iskander wrote:If we use this idea we'll end up with weird scenes like the one in the movie with Galvatron inside Cyclonus cockpit.

But as an alternative, maybe Merceron can generate a giant solid-hologram ship, kinda like Green Lantern could do.

Those were always funny to me, especially when Galvatron shakes his fist as he passes the Autobots. Classic!

I'm not so sure about this altenative. Wouldn't that kind-of defeat the purpose of his jet mode? Maybe he could generate a cockpit area from that green-sphere that could protect Eternus in a force-field type area.

What do you think?

Methinks we should exclude that kind of massive sizeshifting out of the project, but I'm saying that because I never liked the entire concept. And why would Eternus sit inside Mercecron's cockpit when he has a jetmode AND a ship of his own?

Ra88 wrote:Methinks we should exclude that kind of massive sizeshifting out of the project, but I'm saying that because I never liked the entire concept. And why would Eternus sit inside Mercecron's cockpit when he has a jetmode AND a ship of his own?

O.K. No more size-changing. Merceron is the size of Eternus in all modes, and that's final!!!

Now I have to change the bio (again... ). Whew, that's got to be the ninth time I've had to revise it, but I'm O.K. with that. It's actually kind-of fun (I don't get out much ).

Thanks,

Ra88 wrote:Methinks we should exclude that kind of massive sizeshifting out of the project, but I'm saying that because I never liked the entire concept. And why would Eternus sit inside Mercecron's cockpit when he has a jetmode AND a ship of his own?

Completely agree; I don't like size-shifting too much either.