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Chris Ryall Responds To Beast Wars Profiles Criticisms

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Postby i_amtrunks » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:19 pm

I guess we will see how much better the 3rd Profile book is then, seeing as it will not only be under Ryall's editorial eye, but the new Transformers only editor Andrew Harris.
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Postby Calvatron » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:15 pm

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:What else is he going to??? the mea culpa is nice, but this 'falling through the cracks' is the main reason I don't buy IDW comics anymore.


not to be rude, but whose comics do you buy? Seriously, no sarcasm. I'm not a huge comic affiscionado, but IDW has less cracks than any other company i'm familiar with. And they patch their's faster. I guess what i'm asking is what real-world based standard are you comparing them with, because i'd really like to check out stuff by a company that is more reliable than idw(no one I know of is) to see if they have stuff that interests me. But i'll be with idw to the end.
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Postby Calvatron » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:23 pm

Darth Bombshell wrote:
slagfan wrote:Just sucks to see someone take blame openly and then get knocked for it.


As I said, taking blame is one thing. Doing something about it is another.


You bring up a good point. I think that as long as Beast Wars is seen as TRANSFORMERS: beast wars, this will always be the case. While i like furman a lot and think he does good work, If beast wars is going to become a serious creative outing, i'd like to see it get its own team, including a personally devoted writer. And to lose the emphasis on being a transformers comic. It's just too large to be sub-grouped. While i do enjoy the occasional side project by furman, this simply is no longer in the realm of side projects. I'd like to see him focus on G1 and this get it's own project status.
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Postby NuclearConvoy » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:56 pm

What happened in the books to result in this? (i've been too broke to buy stuff...)
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Postby Leonardo » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:27 am

slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad! :)


What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:43 am

It's admirable that he's owned up and taken responsibility for IDW's mistakes and is wanting to rectify it in the TPBs, he can hardly have the book pulled reprinted and issued for free to all that bought it can he now? Those giving IDW a hard time over this need to get out more an realise just how unimportant and petty this all is. It's just a comic book, in fact its not even that its a reference book, an add on, most comic book series don't even do this sort of stuff so why not just be happy you have it at all?

IMO so far IDW have done pretty great job with Transformers especially the new G1 stuff and Beast Wars, so I'm willing to forgive this this minor indiscretion. Maybe If I'd bought the Animated Movie series I'd be more pissed off but right now I'm willing to chalk the £4 I paid for BW Source Book 1 down to experience. I'll not be getting any of the other issues in preference of waiting for the TPBs which will hopefully have all the errors corrected.

BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?

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Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:07 am

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Alex Kingdom wrote:BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?


BB colored like Sunstorm, TM2 Blackarachnia colored as normal Blackarachnia...
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Postby fairplaythings » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:22 pm

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Funny. All this outrage for a few colouration errors. Funnier still that it took three separate pleas for clarification as to the errors before someone actually stepped up to say what the problem was (thanks Darth Bombshell).

But seriously - colouring errors? We get a book that has Autostinger and features Japanese colour-variations of U.S. releases and people have their knickers in a knot about colouring errors? Have people sat through G1 cartoons lately?

The summaries are well done and the art is superb. Though it would be nice if Cheetor had a picture of his TM2 mould and there was something on the back inside cover, I'm still surprised we have this book and it is of this overall quality. We should be apologizing to IDW for not being worthy...
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:11 pm

Darth Bombshell wrote:
Alex Kingdom wrote:BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?


BB colored like Sunstorm, TM2 Blackarachnia colored as normal Blackarachnia...


Honestly? Is that it? Is that all? Is that really what everyone has their knickers in a twist over? Jeez!

Personally, i think the biggest problem with the book is that seemingly unimportant characters like Bigmos and Archadis have received double page spreads whilst important guys like Dinobot and Big Convoy get a page each with a reasonably short write up, in fact most of the Bios in this book are short and unsubstantial. The incorrect coloring of a couple of character really is the least of it's problems.

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Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:02 pm

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Alex Kingdom wrote:Is that really what everyone has their knickers in a twist over?


No, those are just the ones that come to mind most readily. The issue about profile space, like you said, is a big deal to some, too. (Hell, I've been ragging about the inclusion of the Japanese characters forever...)
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Postby i_amtrunks » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:38 pm

Alex Kingdom wrote:Personally, i think the biggest problem with the book is that seemingly unimportant characters like Bigmos and Archadis have received double page spreads whilst important guys like Dinobot and Big Convoy get a page each with a reasonably short write up, in fact most of the Bios in this book are short and unsubstantial. The incorrect coloring of a couple of character really is the least of it's problems.

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Postby slagfan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:16 am

Leonardo wrote:
slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad! :)


What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!


It was in the Animated Movie Adaptation. Don't know the page off-hand, but in issue 1, when Laserbeak returns from spying on Prime (the whole "a little energon and a lot of luck" line), Megatron says "soundwave, play back laserbeak's findings".

SHOCKWAVE says "as you command" or something like that.

Not to beat a dead horse, but that was fixed for the trade. :grin:
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:22 am

slagfan wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad! :)


What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!


It was in the Animated Movie Adaptation. Don't know the page off-hand, but in issue 1, when Laserbeak returns from spying on Prime (the whole "a little energon and a lot of luck" line), Megatron says "soundwave, play back laserbeak's findings".

SHOCKWAVE says "as you command" or something like that.

Not to beat a dead horse, but that was fixed for the trade. :grin:


Ah, I see. Silly IDW!
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