Archibald Witwicky wrote:So, I didn't read any of Civil War. But I've vaguely kept up with whats happening.
A few weeks ago there was a 'leak' of an image of the Ironman armor done up in Red, White, and Blue and is apparently to be direction Steve Rogers goes in.
So, for those of you who've read Civil War to the end, was that true or false, or is it too soon to know?
ionacus wrote:i loved the scene when hercules smashed clone thors' head in. it was nice. but no one died!
Superman: "I'm here to fight for truth, and justice, and the American way."
Lois Lane: "[Laughs] You're gonna end up fighting every elected official in this country!"
The entire story was crap. The writers decided to define superheroes as weapons, but they aren't; they're people. The government violates the heroes rights and creates new new class system at the same time. The very people that the heroes have been protecting turn on them; the citizens turned themselves into the villains. So the heroes have to fight for their own rights, they have to fight capital hill, and even the very people they used to protect. This ending is garbage from the point of few that Captain America just gave up his rights so a bunch of protesters could feel safer.
Benjamin Franklin: "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither"
These citizens decided to sacrifice the heroes freedoms and security for their own security...they sure as hell don't deserve anyone’s pity, the Captain’s tears, or anyone protecting them.
The Captain was wrong to turn himself in. He should have just walked away realized that the people didn’t want or deserve a Captain America. The America he wanted to protect didn’t exist anymore.
Roadbuster wrote:^agrees with the quote
thats the message I see them sending. That it's okay to give up that which others fought for for their own safety. This country already has enough idiots wanting that. Joe Q screws up yet again yet Marvel keeps him around for some reason.
*hopes smart people bombard Marvel with hate mail.*
The only way I can see this being retconned it through Loki's favor to Spider-man, or the return of a mutant we're all very familiar with that dislikes anything where he is required to register. I think Tony may have just scheduled himself for an unplesant future visit from the Master of Magnetism.
Archibald Witwicky wrote:A few weeks ago there was a 'leak' of an image of the Ironman armor done up in Red, White, and Blue and is apparently to be direction Steve Rogers goes in.
So, for those of you who've read Civil War to the end, was that true or false, or is it too soon to know?
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Dynamax wrote:Fake Hammer Burn. Probably the best damn fake Stark and SHIELD could come up with.
Spoiler Warning:
The real hammer was last seen in an FF issue opreceding Civil War, which heralded Doom's return and ended with a dude in a trenchcoat with the initials DB on his luggage buying a ticket to head to the city the hammer landed at.
DB is most likely Donald Blake...but leave it up in the air until the hammers back in the Odinson's hands before we name names.
Burn wrote:Dynamax wrote:Fake Hammer Burn. Probably the best damn fake Stark and SHIELD could come up with.
Spoiler Warning:
The real hammer was last seen in an FF issue opreceding Civil War, which heralded Doom's return and ended with a dude in a trenchcoat with the initials DB on his luggage buying a ticket to head to the city the hammer landed at.
DB is most likely Donald Blake...but leave it up in the air until the hammers back in the Odinson's hands before we name names.
ahhhh see I wondered what happened with that FF plot line. I just assumed that who picked up the hammer was the clone.
But still ... if they claim Thor was a clone from a hair folicle Stark's had since the founding of the Avengers, why was the clone robotic? In fact if it's robotic, why call it a clone at all? It's just a robotic facsimile, definitely not worth being called a clone and bringing the hair folicle into the storyline served no purpose at all really.
Burn wrote:Well Frontline finally proved to me that Stark was manipulating things, but again he comes out looking like a great guy because of what he was willing to do to get his "initiative" setup.
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