Seibertron wrote:
When did the real Thor die or disappear? That plot point seemed really cliche to me as well. I would be pissed if I was a Thor fan.
It was in an issue of FF. not sure on the issue number.
Seibertron wrote:
When did the real Thor die or disappear? That plot point seemed really cliche to me as well. I would be pissed if I was a Thor fan.
Seibertron wrote:The two characters that I had the hardest time understanding their motives were Peter Parker and Reed Richards. Both characters seemed to be doing something really out of character. I was shocked that Parker threw away all of those years of protecting the people he loved the most like Mary Jane and Aunt May. His identity reveal seemed out-of-character and irresponsible to me, regardless of whether it was right or wrong. Reed, on the other hand, seemed to just throw his wife aside. It just seemed like a plot device to create further storylines down the road.
Seibertron wrote:Burn wrote:So we've picked Stark apart. How about Reed Richards?
I find it hard to believe that someone so smart, could be so damn blind.
The problems caused by the registration act, his wife walking out on him, and he didn't even stop to think he may have been wrong. Not to mention how immoral the clone Thor thing was.
The two characters that I had the hardest time understanding their motives were Peter Parker and Reed Richards. Both characters seemed to be doing something really out of character. I was shocked that Parker threw away all of those years of protecting the people he loved the most like Mary Jane and Aunt May. His identity reveal seemed out-of-character and irresponsible to me, regardless of whether it was right or wrong. Reed, on the other hand, seemed to just throw his wife aside. It just seemed like a plot device to create further storylines down the road.
Seibertron wrote:Burn wrote:Speaking of clone Thor again, have a read of Black Panther 25. Storm -vs- Clone Thor at the start of the final battle before Hercules steps in to finish the job.
I've never been a real big fan of Storm (never understood what was so great about her, little bit over-rated) but marrying T'Challa and dedicating herself to Wakanda has done a lot for her character.
When did the real Thor die or disappear? That plot point seemed really cliche to me as well. I would be pissed if I was a Thor fan.
Burn wrote:Civil War in 30 seconds.
Seibertron wrote:Burn wrote:Civil War in 30 seconds.
LOL. That about summed it up indeed. I can't decide if I was disappointed or not in #7. It seemed like a rush end ...
After a conversation with a few of the guys at Graham Cracker comics on Clark here in Chicago, they encouraged me to get Thanos Quest 1 & 2 (after I told them that I had really enjoyed the Inifinity Gauntlet the most during the 90s) and Astonishing X-Men (after I told them that I had been primarily an X-Man fan during that period). I've been thrilled with what I've been reading.
General Magnus wrote:I wonder how optimus would react. I can see him sidding with Cap and Grimock with Adolf Stark
ionacus wrote:General Magnus wrote:I wonder how optimus would react. I can see him sidding with Cap and Grimock with Adolf Stark
jetfire would have gone with cap also, with magnus going to starks' side.
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General Magnus wrote:ionacus wrote:General Magnus wrote:I wonder how optimus would react. I can see him sidding with Cap and Grimock with Adolf Stark
jetfire would have gone with cap also, with magnus going to starks' side.
and it wouldn´t be a suprise for me if Stark hired the Combaticons too.
something like this:
Alied with cap:
Optimus Prime
Ironhide
Jetfire
Hot Rod
Thundercraker
Metroplex
Protecotbots (Defensor)
Alied with Stark:
Grimlock and the Dinobots
Bruticus (Combaticons)
Skywarp
Ultra Magnus
Springer
Starscream
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Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
God Sunstreaker wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
You're so full of **** dude, no offense.
Counterpunch wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
You're so full of **** dude, no offense.
I, um, am going to have to disagree.
Now, on to your argument; you can't paraphrase the Amendments. That will lead to an interpretation out of context.
I will give you this. Due process was indeed violated in some cases, unless of course the President had declared an actual 'state of war'. I don't know if that was detailed.
At any rate, listing the Amendments and writing VIOLATED after them proves nothing. Site some examples so we can discuss them in a civilized way.
Autobots, round up the humans and send them to a harsh alternate dimension prison just because they are just suddenly illegal because a corrupt member of Damage Control gave Nitro some power boosting drugs and he blew up alot of innocent people.Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
Dynamax wrote:Autobots, round up the humans and send them to a harsh alternate dimension prison just because they are just suddenly illegal because a corrupt member of Damage Control gave Nitro some power boosting drugs and he blew up alot of innocent people.Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
No..Prime wouldn't be doing that. Rodimus maybe (Chaar anyone?) But Prime'd come along and fix that easily. No, Optimus would have been rolling down the streets with Cap at the wheel. Tony'd be wondering why he sided with a Winnebago with Prime envy.
Unless Furman wrote it, the Galvatron'd side with IronMan, and Grimlock'd save the day, becoming the new Avenger leader.ionacus wrote:Dynamax wrote:Autobots, round up the humans and send them to a harsh alternate dimension prison just because they are just suddenly illegal because a corrupt member of Damage Control gave Nitro some power boosting drugs and he blew up alot of innocent people.Ironhidensh wrote:Transformers, well, the Autobots anyway, were all about protecting the innocent.
That means they'd side with Ironman. Especially since the freedom being taken away were all in Cap's head.
No..Prime wouldn't be doing that. Rodimus maybe (Chaar anyone?) But Prime'd come along and fix that easily. No, Optimus would have been rolling down the streets with Cap at the wheel. Tony'd be wondering why he sided with a Winnebago with Prime envy.
optimus would tell stark that that he couldnt let humans get involved with the autobots war. then stark would say something like, well, we dont have time for your war so right now its over, and then blast prime. it is pretty much what he did to cage and spider woman
God Sunstreaker wrote:
Add a SPOILER to that link dude....
Counterpunch wrote:The title said SPOILERS. You had your warning...
Counterpunch wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:
Add a SPOILER to that link dude....Counterpunch wrote:The title said SPOILERS. You had your warning...
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