The Energon Pub

Fender Bender wrote:
As for Sunstreaker, he has a robot mode very similar to Alternator Mirage. What is interesting, is that the front end of the car folds down to make his back. So there is a good chance that when Sideswipe is released, his back with be Sunstreakers front.

Sounds like the ALT/BT Side Swipe mod with the trunk as his chest.

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

And do you see those things posted on Seibertron.com? No.

Feel free to go to another website that doesn't respect the copyrights of others.

Burn wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

And do you see those things posted on Seibertron.com? No.

Feel free to go to another website that doesn't respect the copyrights of others.

Yes.. people used to post links to a site that would host torrents to Masterforce and Victory.

I don't need your permission to go to another site and find images either. We all saw the pics sneaked out of botcon months ago...



These were posted on seibertron because thats where I got them.

So is sunstreaker exclusive only for the club members?

Starscreams bad comedy wrote:So is sunstreaker exclusive only for the club members?

No, the image preview is. The figure will get a general release under the Transformers Universe banner.

ChrisR291 wrote:
Yes.. people used to post links to a site that would host torrents to Masterforce and Victory.

I don't need your permission to go to another site and find images either. We all saw the pics sneaked out of botcon months ago...



These were posted on seibertron because thats where I got them.

Note the banner. That's not Botcon, that's Comic-con. The club has no control over what Hasbro shows at other independent events.

Burn wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

And do you see those things posted on Seibertron.com? No.

Feel free to go to another website that doesn't respect the copyrights of others.

How exactly does one go about copyrighting a image of a product that you dont actually own, produce, have proprietary rights to, etc.?

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

I think as we are all consumers of TF,s we deserve to see the pics as well, especially since were the people they need to advertise their **** to cos we're the ones who are gonna be buying them! This is totally f**king out of order.

I'm really not impressed with these...
Even though I haven't seen the pix, I was just hoping for other characters.

Actually, I'm pretty disappointed.

The name changes don't bother me. I have to see what the nonmember price on the seacons will be.

That'll determine if I get them or God Neptune.

Sorry, I confused the conventions because I really havent followed the "fandom" lately.


Its just hard to think of people being against posting copyrighted material... because if you check out the "Transformers News"... a news story is when someone uploads Transformers Animated up on Youtube.

Oh well, I see the business side of it.

ChrisR291 wrote:Yes.. people used to post links to a site that would host torrents to Masterforce and Victory.

Checked the rules lately? They change.

I don't need your permission to go to another site and find images either. We all saw the pics sneaked out of botcon months ago...

So what exactly are you getting all uppity about? You've seen Sunstreaker, this is just a pic. Seibertron.com wants to respect the wishes of the Official Club, what exactly is the problem?

Starscreams bad comedy wrote:How exactly does one go about copyrighting a image of a product that you dont actually own?

Okay, pay attention folks, this is how it works.

Fun Publications pay Hasbro a licensing fee to be the "Official Club". The only way for them to afford that licensing fee is through membership fees.

They need to offer something to members that isn't readily available. The big way to do this is through exclusive figures. But there are times like now that they try to offer a piece of news exclusively to their members.

That is why it is copyrighted and that is why they requested that the image NOT be given to the general public.

do you have to pay to be a member?

Sonray wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

I think as we are all consumers of TF,s we deserve to see the pics as well, especially since were the people they need to advertise their **** to cos we're the ones who are gonna be buying them! This is totally f**king out of order.

As regular consumers, you should wait like every other normal person. There's no rule that says Hasbro has to release these images. They can advertise them upon release, just like they normally do and they will sell fine.

The image was given as a gift from Hasbro TO the Club to release to club members. If you are too stubborn to join the club, quit whining about not having access to privileged information.

It's as simple as that.

Sonray wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

I think as we are all consumers of TF,s we deserve to see the pics as well, especially since were the people they need to advertise their **** to cos we're the ones who are gonna be buying them! This is totally f**king out of order.

agreed, but this is like that Classics post in the toys thread. I dunno...

"DO NOT POST IMAGES OF COPYRIGHTED MATERIALS!!"

"NEWS FLASH, YOUTUBE HAS EPISODE 1 OF TRANSFORMER ANIMATED UP"

pick a side and stick with it.

Fender Bender wrote:

Sonray wrote:

ChrisR291 wrote:Copyrighted? like movies.. music.. games... watching episodes of tv shows on youtube..... ha.

I think as we are all consumers of TF,s we deserve to see the pics as well, especially since were the people they need to advertise their **** to cos we're the ones who are gonna be buying them! This is totally f**king out of order.

As regular consumers, you should wait like every other normal person. There's no rule that says Hasbro has to release these images. They can advertise them upon release, just like they normally do and they will sell fine.

The image was given as a gift from Hasbro TO the Club to release to club members. If you are too stubborn to join the club, quit whining about not having access to privileged information.

It's as simple as that.

whining?? lol, its just kinda confusing. You post links to copyrighted material yourself! on january 18th, you posted

http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12285&f_start=20

Do you have permission from hasbro to promote the stealing of their product?

oh well Burn.... you can have your little victory today. You live in australia? I'll be sure to enjoy the figure months before you get it

Sorry to disappoint you but Australia for the last few years has often gotten figures before the US.

Feel free to ask Trunksy for clarification on that just in case you don't believe me.

just another example of THE GREAT DIVIDE between privileged fans and the rest of us. great job guys. i'll be here when it's your turn to whine someday.

I must say I still do not understand how the Club works. I want to get the Seacons when they come out, do I have to be a member to get them, like Airrazor and Astrotrain?

Looks pretty rad. Streaker looks pretty decent but I can't wait to see some better pics. He's like a little Alt. The new club comic looks rad too.

Crosscheck wrote:I must say I still do not understand how the Club works. I want to get the Seacons when they come out, do I have to be a member to get them, like Airrazor and Astrotrain?

As far as I know they'll be available to all however non-members will have to pay a little bit extra.

If BURN does not get a CLASSICS figure before us, I will presonally send him one because he simply has made the most sense of anyone in this thread.

Being alive does not entitle you to anything but your death. The decisions you make can entitle you TO SOME THINGS, but other people can also control your entitlement to things they own. It's scary, but you are not in control of everything in your life.

This thread is getting very old very quick. Everytime there is a club exclusive people get upset because it is EXCLUSIVE, and they don't want to pay for the right to take part in that EXCLUSIVENESS.

If we can't cut out the cursing, and what is leaning towards flaming, we'll just have to start handing out what you have become entitled to receive...warnings and bannings.

Discussions are welcome. Nonsense arguments and insults are not. They just prove to make people angry.

No you do not have to be a member of the club to order them, but it will make it cheaper if you are, and also you may not be able to get your hands on them because the club members will be offered first dibs.

The have and have nots are present everywhere. You can still enjoy TRANSFORMERS being a member or not, but if you are a member there are benefits...

This is bullSH*T. Only members are allowed to see it. You have to fork out cold cash before you're allowed into the peep show.

Dam!

Wow I came to Seibertron to see reaction to the news and all I'm seeing is

People complain there are no perks to the club, then when they offer some people complain yet still because they aren't members.

Now then Sunstreaker looks great and the mold has total potential to converted into Sideswipe and Red Alert.

All this will be moot once some other prototypes end up on ebay, but pretty cool to get the exclusive.

Can't wait for my Magazine in the mail to see the rest.