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Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

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Ok, hypocrite. You gave me no warning. You also gave no one else a warning and acted like I am the first person to say it.

I will tell you this Va'Al. You keep treating people unfairly like this and don't be surprised when they jump ship and head off to TFW2005, or some other site for their news. I personally am getting sick and tired of the selective rule enforcement on this site. That makes you and your team nothing more than a bunch of bullies.

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

Well, Victorion looks like ****. Those colors are horrible.

Just my opinion. I'm happy for people who like it, but .

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this bullshit. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech. You cannot just treat someone unfairly and then try to get them to discuss it with them privately, when this kind of thing effects all who visit this site. And anyone who is not a mod is going to see this and think they will be the next person harassed for their opinion. Do you think that is best for the site? If people want to say something about someone else personally on the site, then they should PM them. But, if I want to slander Hasbro, then what is it to you? What is this, Nazi Germany?

Delta Magnus wrote:
I'll be waiting for a 3P Victorion that actually has some effort put into it.

You like Victorion that much to hope for a 400-500$ Combiner of her? Not that it would happen. And plus her appearance is based on these mold choices, so I dont see how someone else can improve on a design that was basically based on the exact toy they were producing.

Pretty much, this is as good as it will get. BUT remember guys, we are getting ankle tilts out of this. Those new legs and hands have that feature now.

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this ****. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech.

It's called breaking the rules.



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Looks neato. Not blown away but certainly didn't expect to be based on the options while voting. The weapons are super cool and the new combiner parts are a welcome addition. Glad to see more red in the color scheme, the head shot from last night's artwork looked a lot like Quickswitch!

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this ****. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech.

It's called breaking the rules.



Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forum Rules and Guidelines


Here at Seibertron.com we have one simple philosophy

BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER

We have four basic rules
1. No personal attacks/threats
2. No adult (18+) material
3. No discussion nor promotion of illegal activities
4. No pseudo-modding

What does it all mean?
1. No personal attacks/threats
This includes, but is not limited to, personal attacks/threats on a person for their race, religious beliefs, sexual preferences, cultural background, upbringing, personal appearance etc posted publicly on forums and sent via private messages.

This NOT limited solely to members of Seibertron.com. Personal attacks/threats against non-members (e.g. Comic book Writers/Artists, Movie Producers/Stars/Directors, Toy Designers etc) will also not be tolerated.

No, its called selectively enforcing rules Va'Al. If I got on here and slandered Hitler, then you would not say anything, would you?

Do this. Create a anon poll and ask the members of this site if they think the rules are selectively enforced here.

Lets see who is in the right and who is wrong.

Va'al wrote:


You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I know that I'm picking out a real specific thing here, but this cannot possibly be a real issue, can it? I am all for sensitivity and playing nice, but we as a board cannot have gotten to the level where something like the about is construed as being an actual injury, can we?

Cococoolio! The Hotspot mold works way better for a fembot than I anticipated!

Damn, am I the only one that likes the combiner? The colors could be better, but they don't bother me. also, they look feminine enough to me.

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Dagon wrote:

Va'al wrote:


You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I know that I'm picking out a real specific thing here, but this cannot possibly be a real issue, can it? I am all for sensitivity and playing nice, but we as a board cannot have gotten to the level where something like the about is construed as being an actual injury, can we?

Sounds like that is the case. Welcome to Germany, circa 1941.

I do wonder if the ankle tilts will be in the next wave of combiners that hasbro make, but does mean that the hands will be more poseable at the wrist.

Although I do have to also wonder if they can put that pivot in a piece that can go from foot to hand.

Last thing, I never realised there was a new set of alpha bravo arms.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:
I'll be waiting for a 3P Victorion that actually has some effort put into it.

You like Victorion that much to hope for a 400-500$ Combiner of her? Not that it would happen. And plus her appearance is based on these mold choices, so I dont see how someone else can improve on a design that was basically based on the exact toy they were producing.

Pretty much, this is as good as it will get. BUT remember guys, we are getting ankle tilts out of this. Those new legs and hands have that feature now.

I'm sorry for multi-posting, but this is both funny and true.

Why on earth would some 3P make a version of a "character" that no one has any attachment to, or isn't even an established part of the fiction? Even if Victorion is just not established 'yet,' I'm not sure there's any real impetus for a 3P to crank out a version. But, who knows for sure.

The true part is the ankle tilt pieces. Those look like a great idea, and I hope somehow there's a way to buy an entire set of them for the existent combiners. They just look like far, far better feet that the things they currently come with. I'd love to get a couple sets of these.

*EDIT* I also didn't notice the new AB arms. Why couldn't they have switched the arms up for AB already, considering every combiner team seems required to make use of that mold. Just for variety's sake.

Va'al wrote:This thread does not discuss moderating practices, rules or staff decisions. Please revert to the topic at hand.

Those discussions can be continued via PM or directly to staff email. Thank you.

Va,al, you know I respect you and the work you all do here. But, this kind of thing has to stop. People should be allowed to have their opinion. There are two members on this site that I disagree with just about every thing they post, because they say hateful things indirectly about my personal beliefs. But, you all have never called them out and I don't care. Because it is their God given right to say whatever they want and feel whatever they want about any subject. If you guys just want mindless Hasbro praises OR ELSE, then why even have forums?

I know you want to discuss this privately, but I have nothing to hide. If I say something that is grossly out of line, then by all means say something. Have I made an unfair claim here or what?

I can prove this was unfair by asking any other member if they got a board warning in their mailbox? You said it was general, when i was personally reprimanded. Why is that?

After a quick saturation, brightness and temperature adjustment.

Moosey wrote:Damn, am I the only one that likes the combiner? The colors could be better, but they don't bother me. also, they look feminine enough to me.

I'm alright with her, it's her sword I'm most interested in. It's the colors I can't get over. Needs to be reworked. Would rather have that Animated Ultra Magnus-esque palette that was also offered over the current encroaching-Generation 2 levels of eye-scorching safety-themed neon.

I feel like the colors will look much better in the production version. Neither the Teal or Orange on the deco would work well on a hand-painted prototype.

Also, that team member that's a remold of Dead End totally stole Nightbird's head!

That edited picture looks better

Mindmaster wrote:Would rather have that Animated Ultra Magnus-esque palette that was also offered over the current encroaching-Generation 2 levels of eye-scorching safety-themed neon.

You kids get off my lawn with all this G2 hate today!

But really I wouldn't judge the color scheme too harshly until the not-hand-painted versions are seen. It looks like they use some super way too thick enamel on these, which when combined with show lighting in displays like these is not going to look nice and is likely coming through over-saturated. Think of your cell phone when it uses flash on a toy picture and you didn't want it to.

She looks good to me I will buy her.

ScottyP wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Would rather have that Animated Ultra Magnus-esque palette that was also offered over the current encroaching-Generation 2 levels of eye-scorching safety-themed neon.

You kids get off my lawn with all this G2 hate today!

But really I wouldn't judge the color scheme too harshly until the not-hand-painted versions are seen. It looks like they use some super way too thick enamel on these, which when combined with show lighting in displays like these is not going to look nice and is likely coming through over-saturated. Think of your cell phone when it uses flash on a toy picture and you didn't want it to.

I really like the idea of the uniform color scheme rather than the typical combiner styled, hodge podge coloration. I just think these colors are bad. Combiners in the past have shown that the uniform scheme can be used well (Predaking, that one the Club made from the membership figures, Classics Devastator, hell, original Devastator), but the colors need to work well first in order to make the figure look good. I too think the glossyness may be a negative factor here, but I also just think the color choices are poor.

I hope we all learned a valuable lesson here today. I have only confirmed what I already suspected, but it is heartbreaking to know that you, Va'al are the same as some of your peers here who call themselves mods. If you want to nail me for posting this by calling it an attack of some sort, then fine. I don't want you to, but by all means if that is what you have to do, then so be it. It is not an attack, but a plea for you guys to straighten this kind of thing out.

Last post on this as I do not want to be disrespectful to those who might not care.