Okay, I'm going to make this my last post here for a very long time (tons of projects to finish, and a few anxious customers to placate--oh hey, Kanrabat!
), so I'm going to make this a pretty detailed rant.
Basically, I feel that the root of the whole debate stems from the what we've come to recognize as "G1 Transformer characteristics" (humanoid faces and gender, and human personality/behavior) and the conflict it creates with the accompanying fiction. In other words, they look and act so damn human, but at the same time, are supposed to be asexual aliens--there's a disconnection between what they're supposed to be, and what we see. It's really boils down to the individual's suspension of disbelief, but it will inevitably create debates like these as each person reacts differently to it.
Now, if Transformers had looked liked these mechs (pics below) in the first place, I don't think anyone would have a problem with either of the two being "male" or "female", both or none of the above:
So basically, I do agree with both Jelze and Wolfman Jake regarding physical androgyny and how people identify gender through faces. But what I'm trying to say is that if you (Hasbro, and TF fiction writers in general) are going to tell us that TF's are essentially genderless, don't make them look as if they do have an assigned gender.
But of course, that's just all rhetoric, the G1 aesthetic is much too iconic to changed, nor should it be changed. This is just a "what if TF's had been androgynous and without human characteristics" sort of topic.
The same kind of debates will keep coming up as new TF fembots are made, but it's all good, as that's what discussion threads are about.
So with that, this is SKYWARPED_128 signing out for now.
...and one more thing:
TK415 wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Totally agreed.
Pretty things sell; that's why the Bay movies raked in so much money despite the mediocre story lines, average acting and toilet humor. Kickass robots that transform into (mostly) kickass vehicles, pretty girls in sexy clothes, lots of flashy action.
And for the teenage girl audience, there's Twilight with their shirtless werewolf dudes and brooding male model vampires.
Hey, man, no problem. But that is not 100% of media. Sure it is the majority, I watched every Transformer movie and enjoyed them all, I enjoy that type of film. But I watch other types of movies as well. All I am saying is that it is a good thing to have the Vic team. They either have different body types or they are in suits of armor. Not everyone has to love it, but don’t say that they shouldn’t be made that way.
Hi, TK! Just for the record, I don't disagree with you. If you go back a few pages, I made it quite clear that I just personally prefer more "idealized" aesthetics on my TF's ("male" or "female"). I'm not saying that it's the only correct way to design a transformer. We're all free to like what we want.
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No worries, Kan! Getting back to work right now!
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I was wondering why I liked Pyrus Magna and the combined form the most...this is probably the closet we're ever going to get an updated Override figure.
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