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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby devast8or » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:39 pm

Burn wrote:Just in case people have forgotten, this game isn't just about personal glory, it's working with your fellow faction members to achieve overall victory.

No wonder Autobots keep losing ...


You'll have to pardon us, but when we recall Stan Bush's song: "you've got the touch"....we think of ourselves & not the faction as a whole
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:45 pm

everyone wants to be a hero.

except villains, who are evil scheming bastards and know the value of making the pawns go first, machiavellian plotting, and a cohesive strategy.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:56 pm

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Tammuz wrote:everyone wants to be a hero.

except villains, who are evil scheming bastards and know the value of making the pawns go first, machiavellian plotting, and a cohesive strategy.


Most heroes know the value of a cohesive strategy and trusting friends to cover their back because one man can not take down a army.

Not even Lu Bu could do it.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:03 pm

pfft.....Tadakatsu Honda could.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:10 pm

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Honda? Psf. As if. He's the Japanese quivilent of Zhuge Liao. The white faced ninja with stretchy arms. Now he probably could. But Hideyoshi, I know he could.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:18 pm

the chimp? nah Kojiro's the guy, samurai manson, bloodthirsty and ever so suave.

or zhang fei. he was a legend.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Blurrz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:14 pm

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Burn wrote:Indeed. And seeing as Blurrz loves the arena so much it seems he has absoloutely no regard for any of his fellow faction members.

Just in case people have forgotten, this game isn't just about personal glory, it's working with your fellow faction members to achieve overall victory.

No wonder Autobots keep losing ...


I`m sorry. The reason I`m in the arena is because I don`t feel like participating in 6-0 Pred/Maxi missions.

Lord Gothika wrote:Well, Blurrz' post is hardly the epitome of being friendly to your own faction


So what? You want me to agree with him? I assure you I'm not in the mood to stop this bickering and bend over and let the Decepticons or Predacons here do what they want. If sticking up for a friend like Deadpool isn't the Autobot way I guess being a coward and telling everyone else in your faction to be a pus is the right way
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:33 pm

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Tammuz wrote:the chimp? nah Kojiro's the guy, samurai manson, bloodthirsty and ever so suave.

or zhang fei. he was a legend.


Guan Yu was the best of the brothers though. 6 was a disappointment. It looked good, and the horses could jump, but they cut out most of the good characters.

I racked up a redicious combo with Kojiro, just running around in a circle smashing the army in side it. Every other circle was a musou attack. They were all dead well before I got tired of hitting them.

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Lord Gothika wrote:Well, Blurrz' post is hardly the epitome of being friendly to your own faction


So what? You want me to agree with him? I assure you I'm not in the mood to stop this bickering and bend over and let the Decepticons or Predacons here do what they want. If sticking up for a friend like Deadpool isn't the Autobot way I guess being a coward and telling everyone else in your faction to be a pus is the right way


You are aware that the autobot you're talking about didn't say anything about surrendering. He was agreeing with someone else saying that a vast majority of the autobot posters are generally not all that bright and obviously don't really bother paying attention to what they're replying to. Even when what they're replying to is directly connected to their last post.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:46 pm

Guan Yu is a bit meh, he's boring, you want something flash, like Zhang He(and without his claws he's not zhang he, damn you six) musou lets you get behind the enemy guard and continually murder them, and murdering people while wearing butterfly wings is so much more fun.


what is it with me and girly men...zhang he, kojiro...
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:58 pm

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Tammuz wrote:Guan Yu is a bit meh, he's boring, you want something flash, like Zhang He(and without his claws he's not zhang he, damn you six) musou lets you get behind the enemy guard and continually murder them, and murdering people while wearing butterfly wings is so much more fun.


what is it with me and girly men...zhang he, kojiro...


Yeah, Zhang He is pretty bad ass... or was before 6. I like Sun Ce and alot of the Wu people too.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Loki God Of Mischief » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:02 pm

Blurrz wrote:
Burn wrote:Indeed. And seeing as Blurrz loves the arena so much it seems he has absoloutely no regard for any of his fellow faction members.

Just in case people have forgotten, this game isn't just about personal glory, it's working with your fellow faction members to achieve overall victory.

No wonder Autobots keep losing ...


I`m sorry. The reason I`m in the arena is because I don`t feel like participating in 6-0 Pred/Maxi missions.


Coward. I always step up to those missions when I'm around. When it's 6 on 1 I might lose but you lot know you've been in a fight. Especially when you come back all busted up and you scored less winning then I did losing. Hate on playa it's alright I don't mind.

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Lord Gothika wrote:Well, Blurrz' post is hardly the epitome of being friendly to your own faction


So what? You want me to agree with him? I assure you I'm not in the mood to stop this bickering and bend over and let the Decepticons or Predacons here do what they want. If sticking up for a friend like Deadpool isn't the Autobot way I guess being a coward and telling everyone else in your faction to be a pus is the right way


There's a difference between standing up for your friends and getting their backs and being ignorant. Here's the deal though. You just admitted that you don't care about your faction. Just your buddies. That goes against your faction. Your logic is flawed.

What game are you two talking about Tam and AZ? It sounds pretty fun. And is more interesting then most of this thread.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Blurrz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:37 pm

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Merc With A Mouth wrote:Coward. I always step up to those missions when I'm around. When it's 6 on 1 I might lose but you lot know you've been in a fight. Especially when you come back all busted up and you scored less winning then I did losing. Hate on playa it's alright I don't mind.


What? What kind of logic is that. I'm giving fellow Autobots a chance at missions that I don't need to participate in. Having a bigger faction means there's alot more Lev 0's who need to get into missions where they won't get bombarded by Level 2 Cons.

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There's a difference between standing up for your friends and getting their backs and being ignorant. Here's the deal though. You just admitted that you don't care about your faction. Just your buddies. That goes against your faction. Your logic is flawed.


You don't even know the past history I have with alldarker. And calling out my allegiance to the Autobots is uncalled for. You can knock down my team. You can knock down my friends. You can knock down what I say, but for goodness sake leave my loyalties alone.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Loki God Of Mischief » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:53 pm

Past history is irrelevant. He's your team mate, like it or not. If you have a problem with him set a bounty on him and someone will take care of him for you. Don't punish your entire faction for your problem with someone. That's how I can question your loyalties.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Blurrz » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:01 am

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I could care less. There's 400+ Autobots. There's bound to be one that I can't get along with. As long as I get along with the rest I'm fine.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:07 am

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Merc With A Mouth wrote:What game are you two talking about Tam and AZ? It sounds pretty fun. And is more interesting then most of this thread.


Samurai Warriors Franchise and Dynasty Warriors Franchise. There's also Warriors Orochi (combination of the two) and Dynasty Warriors: Gundam. Best Gundam game ever made.

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Merc With A Mouth wrote:
There's a difference between standing up for your friends and getting their backs and being ignorant. Here's the deal though. You just admitted that you don't care about your faction. Just your buddies. That goes against your faction. Your logic is flawed.


You don't even know the past history I have with alldarker. And calling out my allegiance to the Autobots is uncalled for. You can knock down my team. You can knock down my friends. You can knock down what I say, but for goodness sake leave my loyalties alone.


Merc With A Mouth wrote:Past history is irrelevant. He's your team mate, like it or not. If you have a problem with him set a bounty on him and someone will take care of him for you. Don't punish your entire faction for your problem with someone. That's how I can question your loyalties.


I'd have to agree with Merc here. I've disagreed with pretty much everyone on the boards at some point or another. And I can be an ass while debating with people. I've probably pissed more people off on here then I know. I know I've personally been pretty annoyed with people and their opinions on things here. But I'd still back any Con (if I was one still) or Pred in a mission, because I know they'd back me. Because it's not about individual success, it's about group success. While I see nothing wrong with using the Arena, I really don't see the point in saying "x person isn't worth my backup because I don't like them." Which seems to be what you're implying. There've been a few missions where the Preds outnumbered the Bots, and there was a bunch of bots in the arena. Samething with the the Maximals sadly. Neither faction wants to face a full Pred team if we show up first. Odd. Cons don't have that problem...
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Starlock » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:12 am

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Absolute Zero wrote: There've been a few missions where the Preds outnumbered the Bots, and there was a bunch of bots in the arena. Samething with the the Maximals sadly. Neither faction wants to face a full Pred team if we show up first. Odd. Cons don't have that problem...



Don't know about the Bots, but quite sure us Maximals usually don't got enough on at certain times to even fill a mission. Although I think I know what you refer to as arena waiters cause when I had lv 1s I seen long 10+ wait lines at that level. Of course at same time every mission available was 6-0 and jumping in enough suicide missions like those I can easily say even if they jump in as well we still be outnumbered 3-4 maybe 5 to 6 opponents. So unless configure to speed/avoider its just way better for most to go arena in those scenarios.

Now concerning Cons jumping in when they have 0 vs 6 seems our experiences may be reverse. On those rare cases where Maximals outnumber them like that its the free 100 xp even if over 10 min left. Unlike beast factions they have and know they got the numbers and a nice chunk of 1s/2s so wonder what their excuse was. Can't exactly use coward insults now if they themselves also hide. :wink:
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:53 am

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Absolute Zero wrote: There've been a few missions where the Preds outnumbered the Bots, and there was a bunch of bots in the arena. Samething with the the Maximals sadly. Neither faction wants to face a full Pred team if we show up first. Odd. Cons don't have that problem...



Don't know about the Bots, but quite sure us Maximals usually don't got enough on at certain times to even fill a mission. Although I think I know what you refer to as arena waiters cause when I had lv 1s I seen long 10+ wait lines at that level. Of course at same time every mission available was 6-0 and jumping in enough suicide missions like those I can easily say even if they jump in as well we still be outnumbered 3-4 maybe 5 to 6 opponents. So unless configure to speed/avoider its just way better for most to go arena in those scenarios.

Now concerning Cons jumping in when they have 0 vs 6 seems our experiences may be reverse. On those rare cases where Maximals outnumber them like that its the free 100 xp even if over 10 min left. Unlike beast factions they have and know they got the numbers and a nice chunk of 1s/2s so wonder what their excuse was. Can't exactly use coward insults now if they themselves also hide. :wink:


The last mission I saw it happen in, the three missions before and three missions after had full compliment of Autobots, and less Preds.

As for the Cons... I can't really judge, since I see more Maximal missions then Con ones. Generally we have full sides of them, but there's a lot less missions where they wont atleast try to back up their fellows.

Maybe you can tell me why Maximals wont join missions Preds start? If you see 3-4 Preds in a mission for the maximals, that they haven't started putting people in, no one shows up for it. It's like you're afraid of our awesomeness. And I know how awesome I am. I once killed a man just by stareing at him. :shock:
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Sinister Mentor » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:04 am

You know, if you all spent less time typing and more time playing you *might* just have been able to give the rest of us a run for our money. ;;)
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:14 am

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Sinister Mentor wrote:You know, if you all spent less time typing and more time playing you *might* just have been able to give the rest of us a run for our money. ;;)


I got time to type while my guys kick your guys dented metal butts in missions.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Sinister Mentor » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:24 am

Absolute Zero wrote:
Sinister Mentor wrote:You know, if you all spent less time typing and more time playing you *might* just have been able to give the rest of us a run for our money. ;;)


I got time to type while my guys kick your guys dented metal butts in missions.

Maybe, but that's because I stick my butt out there.

A lot.

Yeah you heard me.

I'm mooning you and your stupid faction.

With my DENTED METAL BUTT.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:26 am

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Sinister Mentor wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Sinister Mentor wrote:You know, if you all spent less time typing and more time playing you *might* just have been able to give the rest of us a run for our money. ;;)


I got time to type while my guys kick your guys dented metal butts in missions.

Maybe, but that's because I stick my butt out there.

A lot.

Yeah you heard me.

I'm mooning you and your stupid faction.

With my DENTED METAL BUTT.


Keep getting it kicked, and it'll fall off. Thas all I'm saying.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Sinister Mentor » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:28 am

Don't worry, I can afford spare parts.
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Starlock » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:31 am

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Absolute Zero wrote:
Maybe you can tell me why Maximals wont join missions Preds start? If you see 3-4 Preds in a mission for the maximals, that they haven't started putting people in, no one shows up for it. It's like you're afraid of our awesomeness. And I know how awesome I am. I once killed a man just by stareing at him. :shock:



Well can't speak for others, but here is how I choose what missions to enter when there is those 3 preds-0 max ones. Usually in this scenario my mission choices are around 5-8 missions available. Now the other choices seem to always go like 1 max vs 4-5 cons(not 6 odd enough, for some reason if there is 3-0 pred types its usually no full con side at that point) or 0-2 max vs 6 bots. I always pick the missions where there are fellow comrades already since I rather back up someone and hope others see the improve odds of 2-3 on 6 and jump in as well over going on a suicide run and no one else showing up. Now if just 0 max left types it depends who I'm using which decides if I check arena for opponents waiting.

So if others like that they must just be choosing where their allies are and preds just have bad luck concerning us since other factions weren't as threatening at that point for some odd reason.

Or we could just be afraid of bugs. :mrgreen:
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Re: COME ON AUTOBOTS!!!

Postby Burn » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:43 am

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Blurrz wrote:I`m sorry. The reason I`m in the arena is because I don`t feel like participating in 6-0 Pred/Maxi missions.


Blurrz wrote:
Merc With A Mouth wrote:Coward. I always step up to those missions when I'm around. When it's 6 on 1 I might lose but you lot know you've been in a fight. Especially when you come back all busted up and you scored less winning then I did losing. Hate on playa it's alright I don't mind.


What? What kind of logic is that. I'm giving fellow Autobots a chance at missions that I don't need to participate in. Having a bigger faction means there's alot more Lev 0's who need to get into missions where they won't get bombarded by Level 2 Cons.

Merc With A Mouth wrote:
There's a difference between standing up for your friends and getting their backs and being ignorant. Here's the deal though. You just admitted that you don't care about your faction. Just your buddies. That goes against your faction. Your logic is flawed.


You don't even know the past history I have with alldarker. And calling out my allegiance to the Autobots is uncalled for. You can knock down my team. You can knock down my friends. You can knock down what I say, but for goodness sake leave my loyalties alone.


One second you don't want to join missions because you're afraid of being outnumbered, then you try to claim it's because you want others to have a go?

And as far as knocking your loyalties, well it's clearly evident you have none towards your own faction.

Take your first reason. You don't want to be outnumbered.

Maybe you should being a leader? You're one of the highest ranked Autobots, making you one of the most "powerful" Autobots. If people see you in missions they'll rush to back you up.

I'm saying this from EXPERIENCE. I know for a fact that people would see my Freaks in missions and dive in to back me up because they knew as a high ranked player who had one of the most powerful teams, then it was going to be one hell of a fight.

I also know for a fact that people would see my Freaks in missions and avoid them as well because they knew the damage I could cause.

So why don't you become that sort of player Blurrz? You've got all that xp, step up and be a leader, spear head the Autobots to victory and actually become someone in this game to be feared and respected.

But as for your second reasoning, well you DO need to participate in missions. Having a bigger faction doesn't mean ****. You clearly state you're walking away to leave level 0's on their own. What if they come across a bunch of level 2 'Cons? What chance do they have when their level 2 allies are off elsewhere?

Don't get me wrong, you can play in the arena all you like, i'm a big supporter of it in fact. But I dunno man, you seem to be coming across as selfish and willing to walk away so that your own faction can suffer defeat, or only want to help out your good friends, which frankly, reeks of elitism.

And this game really doesn't need that sort of crap.
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