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I mean Rodimus was never an Earth vehicle so could it be him somehow and the matrix is passed to him in this film when Optimus dies?

Just a thought!

stoney2009 wrote:I mean Rodimus was never an Earth vehicle so could it be him somehow and the matrix is passed to him in this film when Optimus dies?

Just a thought!

Rodimus, no I wouldn't call him an Earth vehicle but a design of the Matrix,(at least going by the original animated movie) tho maybe Hot Rod was a 1986 guess of what a 2005 Earth vehicle could be and the look has ben kept since? Also just a thought.

Most people are betting that the Ferrari is Hot Rod. Until only 2 days ago I had gotten used to the idea and then found a post on youtube saying it HAS to be Sunstreaker which, personally, has me undecided again.

The quote can be found on Albershides' post which has all the filming videos gathered together. Down almost to the bottom, (as of today) is a post with the heading regarding Sideswipe & Ferrari in back alley/ secret filming.I don't know how to create a link to there from here (sorry!).

Hopefully it's Hot Rod and not Sunstreaker. But it is Bayverse...

i gotta a feeling the ferrari is rodimus i was wondering since the nascars are the stunticons then could the ol rusted up truck could it be motormaster?

GrimmReeper wrote:i gotta a feeling the ferrari is rodimus i was wondering since the nascars are the stunticons then could the ol rusted up truck could it be motormaster?

It was confirmed that the Nascars are not Stunticons. On the set they were called Wreckers. So I guess no Motormaster.

could be Swerve or windcharger too

orriezaros wrote:

stoney2009 wrote:I mean Rodimus was never an Earth vehicle so could it be him somehow and the matrix is passed to him in this film when Optimus dies?

Just a thought!

Rodimus, no I wouldn't call him an Earth vehicle but a design of the Matrix,(at least going by the original animated movie) tho maybe Hot Rod was a 1986 guess of what a 2005 Earth vehicle could be and the look has ben kept since? Also just a thought.

Most people are betting that the Ferrari is Hot Rod. Until only 2 days ago I had gotten used to the idea and then found a post on youtube saying it HAS to be Sunstreaker which, personally, has me undecided again.

The quote can be found on Albershides' post which has all the filming videos gathered together. Down almost to the bottom, (as of today) is a post with the heading regarding Sideswipe & Ferrari in back alley/ secret filming.I don't know how to create a link to there from here (sorry!).

My problem with it possibly being Sunstreaker is what would that bring to the Transformers story compared with it being Hot Rod who could really shake things up in the final of the movies to be directed by Bay. To me if it is anyone other then Hot Rod/Rodimus then its just more cannon fodder for the decepticons IMO!!!

stoney2009 wrote:

orriezaros wrote:

stoney2009 wrote:I mean Rodimus was never an Earth vehicle so could it be him somehow and the matrix is passed to him in this film when Optimus dies?

Just a thought!

Rodimus, no I wouldn't call him an Earth vehicle but a design of the Matrix,(at least going by the original animated movie) tho maybe Hot Rod was a 1986 guess of what a 2005 Earth vehicle could be and the look has ben kept since? Also just a thought.

Most people are betting that the Ferrari is Hot Rod. Until only 2 days ago I had gotten used to the idea and then found a post on youtube saying it HAS to be Sunstreaker

My problem with it possibly being Sunstreaker is what would that bring to the Transformers story compared with it being Hot Rod who could really shake things up in the final of the movies to be directed by Bay. To me if it is anyone other then Hot Rod/Rodimus then its just more cannon fodder for the decepticons IMO!!!

Sunstreaker and Sideswipe are brothers.They belong together,are displayed together,introduced to non-fans together,and risk their lives for the rest of the Autobot army to buy time together.They can definitely shake things up.If it wasn't for them,the Twins, Hot Rod and Bumblebee may never have lived long enough to reach a fighting age.

I get you. My own problem is the sudden influx of Primes (word is the Fire Truck is Sentinel) with no warriors anywhere and no news of the rest of the G1'and G2's survival (Nascars might be the answer),or a bridge from there to the Unicron Trilogy.

All of the Bots are always Cannon Fodder, but unfortunately, Directors are taught today that bringing anyone back from the dead is a great audience grabber.They say it's drama.Real drama is coping with the loss,filling the void,adapting to the change.That IS the story of the original Rodimus Prime.It's also the character format fans have disliked about Rodimus.

I would prefer seeing the Ferrari turn out to be Hot Rod than Sunstreaker. Given that the films already have a set of Twins, I also don't see Sunstreaker being introduced at all, unfortunately. Plus, Sunstreaker is, well, yellow. I know Sideswipe got changed to silver, but when someone says sun, I think the color yellow. Not red. And with Bumblebee occupying the "yellow Autobot car" role, that's two strikes against Sunstreaker.

If it is Hot Rod/Rodimus, I hope they don't simply try to rehash the '86 film's plot to appease G1 fans. Prime has died once already, and having him die again just to pass the Matrix to Hot Rod would be...lazy. Hopefully if he is added, he only shows glimpses of his "hero in waiting" role and is more of a "rookie" character.

Rodimus being in TF3 would ensure that I see it. I'd look forward to movie-Rodimus toys, too.

Joker'sRequiem wrote:I would prefer seeing the Ferrari turn out to be Hot Rod than Sunstreaker. Given that the films already have a set of Twins, I also don't see Sunstreaker being introduced at all, unfortunately. Plus, Sunstreaker is, well, yellow. I know Sideswipe got changed to silver, but when someone says sun, I think the color yellow. Not red. And with Bumblebee occupying the "yellow Autobot car" role, that's two strikes against Sunstreaker.

If it is Hot Rod/Rodimus, I hope they don't simply try to rehash the '86 film's plot to appease G1 fans. Prime has died once already, and having him die again just to pass the Matrix to Hot Rod would be...lazy. Hopefully if he is added, he only shows glimpses of his "hero in waiting" role and is more of a "rookie" character.

I agree fully.Only anybody can argue on the technicality that a sun can be red and actually win.Hollywood Bimbos especially!!
If Sunstreaker isn't in it,at least I know he doesn't die in it!(LOL) and there will be more films so another director can always import Sunstreaker later.
It's 'execute-ive' of me, I know,but I didn't start it so it 'aint my Karma: Hot Rod..well...every Autobot arrival is a celebration in my book, but I guess I'm just conditioned to know he's a second-rate fan character and Top shelf Hasbro wildcard,in a world where few people who put him in this movie care about him or what he does in it, so I have the luxury not to bite my nails & sweat over his role in the storyline.I know whatever he does, live or die, will push the Autobot cause forward.

How his role gets rewritten, or what his role does to other roles,I have a lot of 'bothering truths' to say about.If I see him even remotely capable of fighting in a way that makes Sunstreakers' combat prowess obsolete to the future storyline, I'll have a major attitude problem.

Hot Rod, compared to Sunstreaker, is a stupid name for a warrior from outer space in a $400 million (or whatever) movie that wants to beat Avatar.And after all the cannibalization of the TF characters by the films and other recent history notes,if Hasbro goes bankrupt for it, I'll laugh and laugh and laugh....and then shop Takara.

orriezaros wrote:

Joker'sRequiem wrote:I would prefer seeing the Ferrari turn out to be Hot Rod than Sunstreaker. Given that the films already have a set of Twins, I also don't see Sunstreaker being introduced at all, unfortunately. Plus, Sunstreaker is, well, yellow. I know Sideswipe got changed to silver, but when someone says sun, I think the color yellow. Not red. And with Bumblebee occupying the "yellow Autobot car" role, that's two strikes against Sunstreaker.

If it is Hot Rod/Rodimus, I hope they don't simply try to rehash the '86 film's plot to appease G1 fans. Prime has died once already, and having him die again just to pass the Matrix to Hot Rod would be...lazy. Hopefully if he is added, he only shows glimpses of his "hero in waiting" role and is more of a "rookie" character.

I agree fully.Only anybody can argue on the technicality that a sun can be red and actually win.Hollywood Bimbos especially!!
If Sunstreaker isn't in it,at least I know he doesn't die in it!(LOL) and there will be more films so another director can always import Sunstreaker later.
It's 'execute-ive' of me, I know,but I didn't start it so it 'aint my Karma: Hot Rod..well...every Autobot arrival is a celebration in my book, but I guess I'm just conditioned to know he's a second-rate fan character and Top shelf Hasbro wildcard,in a world where few people who put him in this movie care about him or what he does in it, so I have the luxury not to bite my nails & sweat over his role in the storyline.I know whatever he does, live or die, will push the Autobot cause forward.

How his role gets rewritten, or what his role does to other roles,I have a lot of 'bothering truths' to say about.If I see him even remotely capable of fighting in a way that makes Sunstreakers' combat prowess obsolete to the future storyline, I'll have a major attitude problem.

Hot Rod, compared to Sunstreaker, is a stupid name for a warrior from outer space in a $400 million (or whatever) movie that wants to beat Avatar.And after all the cannibalization of the TF characters by the films and other recent history notes,if Hasbro goes bankrupt for it, I'll laugh and laugh and laugh....and then shop Takara.

I'd prefer to see him (Hot Rod) as almost an arrogant, heir apparent, knowing of his foretold ascension as the next Matrix bearer, and jealous of OP possession of it. Make him the Sentinel Prime of the Movie-verse. Maybe they could work in the High Council somehow, and Hot Rod arrives with the intention of proving himself more worthy than Optimus. Instead of making him the Luke Skywalker of TF make him Anakin.

And as for the movie flopping due to budgetary/poor ticket sale reasons, and Hasbro does go bankrupt from it, Transformers as a whole goes with it. Needless to say, I wouldn't be laughing. And anyone outside of Japan won't be either.

orriezaros wrote:...And after all the cannibalization of the TF characters by the films and other recent history notes,if Hasbro goes bankrupt for it...

You can't seriously think this is going to happen.

Forward 2.0 wrote:

orriezaros wrote:...And after all the cannibalization of the TF characters by the films and other recent history notes,if Hasbro goes bankrupt for it...

You can't seriously think this is going to happen.

Nope.

(Nice Avatar,btw)!

I seriously hope so. He's one of the only major characters who hasn't had representation

orriezaros wrote:

Forward 2.0 wrote:

orriezaros wrote:...And after all the cannibalization of the TF characters by the films and other recent history notes,if Hasbro goes bankrupt for it...

You can't seriously think this is going to happen.

Nope.

(Nice Avatar,btw)!

Oh, ok. Good, you're sane.

And thanks!

If it's Rodimus, I don't see how they could at all tell the G1 story with him and have it not be awful storytelling. Between Bumblebee and Ironhide, how could we be sold on this "new guy" being the prodigal son to carry on after Optimus. The method of killing old toys to make room for new ones isn't necessary anymore as evidenced by the dozen or so Bumblebees we've seen since 2007, which is really the only reason Rodimus exists. I mean, what if Lando came into Star Wars and was suddenly the protagonist and killed Vader. I agree that the only way to do him as the heir apparent is to make him unworthy. Then frankly, I'd have Bumblebee become the leader. This isn't G1, it's the movieverse and you have to think about what's a better next step for the movie's story rather than how to make it conform to a previous continuity.

Kingpun wrote:
This isn't G1, it's the movieverse and you have to think about what's a better next step for the movie's story rather than how to make it conform to a previous continuity.

They thought as far as 3d.

orriezaros wrote:
They thought as far as 3d.

Cha-Ching!


Instant hit! No need for much else.

orriezaros wrote:

...I get you. My own problem is the sudden influx of Primes (word is the Fire Truck is Sentinel)....

Actually, in ROTF during the classroom scene where Sam has the nervous breakdown and writes the symbols on the chalkboard, he mention a mission by Sentinel Prime,... so Sentinel could've been one of the Primes in heaven (or whatever the Autobots call the afterlife) that tells Sam that they've been watching him...

It's a random fact that's not entirely relevent to the discussion, I know... I'm just putting it out there...

Albershide wrote:

GrimmReeper wrote:i gotta a feeling the ferrari is rodimus i was wondering since the nascars are the stunticons then could the ol rusted up truck could it be motormaster?

It was confirmed that the Nascars are not Stunticons. On the set they were called Wreckers. So I guess no Motormaster.

agree with them being wrecker but albershide there is a motormaster in tf3 how couls you not see that buddy

Ya it could.
I really wish people would stop saying that the fire truck is ganna be Sentinel Prime.I know some guy said it was, but that has to be the biggest peice of mis-info ever.
Ferrari = Hot Rod
Fire Truck = Ultra Magnus
Anything else and I will be a sad panda.

I'm fine with it being Hot rod but not Rodimus. Rodimus has always sounded freaking stupid. (only name that could have topped it was if he died and we got Springimus Prime.) I heard the name Rush though so I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Hot Rod might be unprotected. (why they called him Hot Rodimus in some series or Hot Shot in War for Cybertron on DS.) They could always just go the Autobot Hotrod route as that fixes things for Jazz and Rachet.

I don't envision them killing Optimus Prime again this film. He's too valueable to the series and would only tick off alot of people. He's gotten his one death/revival per a series quota.

Yes, it could be Hot Rod/Rodimus, or anyone! We don't know! Could be any Autobot who hasn't been in the movies yet. I think it is most likely Rodimus, taking note of his G1 and Animated appearances and comparing them to the red Ferrari.

cliffjumper would be good