Megatron Wolf wrote:Should we really be proud of this? DOTM was an ok movie but but not that good, there are movies below it that are 100 times better. The Dark Knight was a great movie and a great Batman story DOTM was an ok movie and a terrible transformer story. Well at least ROTF isnt in the top 10. Im also surprised to see that Toy Story 3 & Alice in Wonderland are where they were, i knew they did well but not that well.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY.
They don’t go to be inspired.
They don’t go to be educated.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
Burn wrote:Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
ThanksMOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
ThanksMOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY.
Yeah, damn me for wanting an escape from reality for a few hours, damn me for wanting to kick back and relax and be entertained.They don’t go to be inspired.
Yeah, damn me for not being inspired by a fictional character in a movie. I'll give up being inspired by people who achieve things in the real world, people who work tirelessly in charities, scientists who work to cure diseases, carers who look after the sick and the frail. Damn me!They don’t go to be educated.
Yeah, damn me for going to school for so many years and not learning everything I could from movies!Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
Did I do good? Can I have a Scooby Snack now?
Biddybot wrote:Oh, and good for DOTM for breaking its billion cherry--yay!
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime: The only way I’d see DOTM in the theatre again is if I could magically fast-forward the movie to where Sentinel Prime shows up and likewise skip through most of the human stuff afterwards. I doubt the other movie-goers would appreciate that, heh!
.Biddybot wrote:If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*)
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
Biddybot wrote:When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
based on my life experiences
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime: The only way I’d see DOTM in the theatre again is if I could magically fast-forward the movie to where Sentinel Prime shows up and likewise skip through most of the human stuff afterwards. I doubt the other movie-goers would appreciate that, heh!
If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*).
Capt.Failure wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.
Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime:
MINDVVIPE: ‘…I’m urging people to demand more from their movie experience.’ … Y’know, I do feel for you and that request and even somewhat agree, I really do. But here’s the reality, based on my life’s experiences:
MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
I don't even know what makes me even want to read the comments on these threads anymore. Probably morbid curiosity.
I just don't get the vitriol. Even if you hate the movie, surely it's a good thing that HasTakTom is making money? The cash flow that the films (and the swarms f 'bees on the shelves) generate for them allows them to continue making more risky collector-focused items like the CHUG toys or the masterpiece line (for all the GWunners out there.)
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
MINDVVIPE wrote:RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
(This is a forum, after all, so discussion on such a thing should be encouraged, but only in a civil dialogue )
Rodimus Prime wrote:Skyline is on instant play on netflix, I'll probably watch it on that. And nothing I've read here makes me want to see Avatar any faster, so pass.
RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
Capt.Failure wrote:You see people complaining about the film's success due to the misguided and childish belief that somehow this success "poisons" the Transformers franchise. Usually it's change or extra-fanbase popularity these people fear, when they don't stop to realize these are the things that keep a beloved series long running. Namely fresh ideas, new fans, and income for the creators. We saw what stagnation can do before Beast Wars and during the Unicron Trilogy, and it almost ended Transformers each time.
Burn wrote:I've spoken to non-TF fans who have gone and seen all three movies.
You know what they said about DOTM? They cried or were shocked when Ironhide died. They got worried when it looked like Bumblebee was going to be executed.
They spoke about the different characters ... so obviously, to a non-TF movie going fan (aka the ones who helped push DOTM over a billion), there was enough character development.
Maybe instead of being a over-the-top loyal fanboy, people should take a step back and look at it from a non-fan perspective. Maybe then they'll see the movies in a different light.
Or just go to your nearest art house theatre and be "educated and elightened" that way. Whatever works for those who are clearly better than me.
Autobot032 wrote:Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
MINDVVIPE wrote:To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself.
Burn wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself.
Well duh.
RogueDeathangel wrote:See, the last page and a half of this thread is what the movie threads should be more like. Again, just sayin'.
I like the movies for trying something different with the franchise. I mean, it's the first time in... the entire history of the franchise that anyone's attempted to make a pure spectacle out of our beloved giant robots. Never before have we seen "realistic" transformers involved in such action sequences. It reminds me somewhat of films like The Transporter or Crank, where the entire goal of the film is the action sequences. It's a refreshing take on the media and, even just from a technical standpoint, one heck of an achievement.
Due to the pre-existing business model that Transformers has stuck to pretty dang rigidly since it's debut the accompanying fiction has always been about selling toys with the success of the media being a secondary (most likely tertiary) concern at best. Previously the media never really had to succeed on it's own (in a monetary fashion) because the aim was to recoup that money through toy sales, but with the recent movies they absolutely HAD to make them financially viable because, well, Transformers toys were never going to balance out a $250 million movie budget (let alone turn a profit!)
And, in that sense, they have absolutely succeeded. I mean, if there were no accompanying toyline Paramount would absolutely make more movies regardless. This film made a billion dollars. They'd be stupid not to.
Now, as for whether the movie line of toys is good for Hasbro or not, well, I can see your point. It does seem like CHUG toys sell better than movie toys but, by all reports that I've heard, this is because stores order less CHUG toys and more movie toys. Not because the stores have any bias, to them all of the toys are just transformers toys (I sincerely doubt most store/section managers actually pay attention to the difference in aesthetic) but because the toys sell more when a movie comes out and they sell less when there is not a new movie out. I'm sure Hasbro (and when I say Hasbro I mean HasTakTom) could sneak a few CHUG-styled toys into the movie line (ala RTS and the Marvel 3.5inch movie figures, which often have comic-styled figures included too) but I think they prefer keeping a more unified aesthetic to their various lines. So, while it may seem that Movie toys linger on shelves they may in fact be shifting at a higher rate than the CHUG toys, but simply get restocked faster as they have plenty of them in the stock room.
Wow. I wrote a lot. And apparently I really love italics.
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