The Energon Pub

Sorry, I just watched the movie and I feel about talking about something.

It seems these Decepticons are the weakest ever. Not in the sense of not being powerful, but they are quite easily destroyed by humans. Like it was said in the movie, they knew they can be harmed by Earth's weapons, and that's why disabled the country's weapons and communication systems.

What comes to mind is that they are very similar to Godzilla. Remeber the 1998 Godzilla Movie? The Japanese Godzilla was indestructable, but a few planes ripped him apart in the US version.

I totally understand the basic plot. These Decepticons are not super-indestructable machines that come to Earth just to be the Decepticons. They're depicted as aliens, creatures that can be gunned down. So obviously, they cannot be the threat of the movie. Their objective is of course to capture the Allspark, that is why they're on Earth and that's why Prime said he would sacrafice himself to destroy it, it was the object of war. The Cons were putting themselves in a high-risk battle zone on Earth where the danger is hardly the Autobots.

It was nice to see the Blackout attack and all, but the whole point of that was to gather information and begin disabling the human's defense. Once the Decepticons are out of disguise and exposed, they are very vulnerable.

The whole point is this. The Decepticons could have been better, but the Movie would have droned on and on. The plot devices were the Allspark, the Autobots, and most of all, a story of coming of age and courage for Sam and Mikaela. The Autobots were practically unneeded except to inform about the Decepticons' motives. It's nice that at least Devastator and Bonecrusher were killed by Autobots. The death of Blackout was the worst, though. It's almost as if Blackout was a leftover in the plot, and of course they had to find a way to account for him. Because of the place in the storyline of the Decepticons, it was like, okay, kill them all quick so we can focus on the end. Sam getting Mikaela and the Allspark being destroyed. Even though, they still rushed by it so fast they left out Barricade, even though it showed him reporting to the call of Starscream.

Well, these are just some rants about the most awesome movie ever made, and it doesn't take anything away from Michael Bay or anything. In fact, if TF2 really focuses on the Decepticons and their possible origin and strengths, it could be even better.

In fewer words(althou your where objective and well chosen), yeah, the Cons got a short changed raw deal!

I enjoyed the movie, and being knowledgable of basic marketing, the human element was needed to rope in the masses that it did...

However as a TRANSFORMERS fan, I have to say the same thing that I do with pretty much every series, enough of the humans, and yes the Autobots will win...

But can we please see more of the Decepticons! And have more insites to their modivation.

The comics pick up the slack on this end fairly well, but still I'd like to just once see some con based animation!

So Brawl being taken down by a bunch of humans and 2, sometimes 3 Autobots is now ... weak?

Yeah hes a dweeb for that!!!

A real Decepticon would have sucker punched a nun, blamed StarScream than ran for cover!

Laying consistant ground fire, what was he thinking!?!

Brawl, or Devastator, was quite admirable in the way he went down. I don't mean weak as in lacking firepower, that's for sure. I mean, he's a tank after all. He's more powerful than probably any of the Autobots, but he doesn't quite match up to the Decepticons of the past. Devastator took a lot of hits, and it took a lot to take him down, he was fighting while on fire! But he was killed. Only Megatron had beter endurance than that.

Devastator is not a weakling in the Movie universe at all. He was one of the biggest challenges. He just kept missing with those missiles he was firing.

I really don't think they were weak. Think about it this way; they're only as endurant (not sure that's even a word) as their alt mode. It's covering them in robot mode and alt, and if's it's an alt mode that can't withstand repeated Sabot rounds then it's a gonner. Sure Helecopters can take an ok fight but if hit with a few rockets it's goin down. If they made the helecopters as tuff as a tank then they would have some trouble flying. Brawl took the beating that he did becuase he was a tank.

So that's saying that their armor becomes the same as what their scanned vehicle is made of. Before it seemed that they had armor, and it stayed the same endurance-wise no matter what form it takes.

I think you'll find they DON'T take on the metallic properties of the alt mode they adopt.

If that were the case Megatron would easily have torn Prime to shreds and Bumblebee and Barricade would have beaten the snot out of each other.

I'm no military expert but i'm assuming Sabot shells are some of the more powerful types of ammunition available today.

I don't think for an instant the Decepticons were weak in fact I would say they were the toughest incarnation of a Decepticon ever.

G1 Starscream scratches his paint and runs away. Movie Starscream flys right through a squadron of jets and promptly beats them up.

G1 Megatron faces imminent defeat and promptly runs away. Movie Megatron needs the full power of some cosmic life giving cube to be taken down.

Good points, but I think those jets were quite painful.

The Decepticons could have been destroyed quite easily all together like they were, as long as the guys doing it didn't mind having the whole city blown up. That's why they hacked the network and disabled everything. Now the thing with this movie is it's live-action, not a cartoon for kids, so of course it's going to be realistic. Which might make the Decepticons respectically powerful.