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News Credits: 1 · by **mbd88prime** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:37 pm

idk might wait and see if tfc does a comperable menasor. i'm more concerned about the size of the combiner vs typical classics sized tfs. I mean the thing that suck about the original combiners was they were not much bigger than a regular tf, as not menasor is shaping up to be here vs typical classics.

these guys look great but i think that combiners are supposed to be huge not just a head taller than like optimus for example.

by **Rated X** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:32 pm

IronhidesGhost wrote:Blackbird just came in today, and it made me think about the scale of Uranos Vs. Not-Menasor. I compared a not Bombshell to Falcon. Going to be perfect. Superion should be bigger. Planes vs. Cars... it's going to look great. Anyone else think it's okay that Menasor will be much shorter than Superion?

My issue is why are the stunticon cars half the size of the classics autobots cars ? That is kind of dumb. They should have flat out made them bigger. Ill still be getting them, but Im not thrilled with the downsizing.

by **Wh33l Jck** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:00 am

I have a feeling the cars are only going to be the upper arms or lower shins, and Motormaster's parts are going to fill in the rest. For example, I think the forearms/hands will be black add on pieces like Maketoys Giant.

I think this is the best solution, it will allow for the best articulation when it is combined.

However if you do that, then I think Motormaster's trailer would have to be separate from the Motomaster the robot itself, otherwise he would dwarf the other robots.

If my guess is correct, Menasor still could be pretty big....

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:46 am

Rated X wrote:
IronhidesGhost wrote:Blackbird just came in today, and it made me think about the scale of Uranos Vs. Not-Menasor. I compared a not Bombshell to Falcon. Going to be perfect. Superion should be bigger. Planes vs. Cars... it's going to look great. Anyone else think it's okay that Menasor will be much shorter than Superion?

My issue is why are the stunticon cars half the size of the classics autobots cars ? That is kind of dumb. They should have flat out made them bigger. Ill still be getting them, but Im not thrilled with the downsizing.

I don't know that I'd call this downsizing. This appears to be pretty consistent with other FP releases, especially the Bruticus combiner limbs. If this were TFC releasing such a small one, then I could see these sorts of complaints more. Maybe we're getting a little spoiled by some of these 3rd party companies...

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:27 am

As a hole the one thing i keep in mind is the car vs plane size difference so im happy for menasor to be smaller in that respect. if mototmaster is about the same height as fp broadside then with the limbs he shouldent be to bad anyway . has not menasor got a name yet ?.

by **Mekatron** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:34 am

Autobot Genocide wrote:As a hole the one thing i keep in mind is the car vs plane size difference so im happy for menasor to be smaller in that respect. if mototmaster is about the same height as fp broadside then with the limbs he shouldent be to bad anyway . has not menasor got a name yet ?.

Been rumored to be "Intimidator"... but I'll believe it when I see it.

News Credits: 1 · by **mbd88prime** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:35 pm

Arctorro wrote:Been comparing the size of my Classics/etc Insecticons, Bumblebee, Wheeljack and Dev (Herc).

Sounds like the Stunticons should be between BB and WJ in height. While they aren't the biggest deluxes out there, they aren't too bad, and the size should help keep prices down.

(took a couple of images, but don't know how/if I can upload em)

If the image of a blacked out Menasor is correct and he will be 11.5 inches tall, then he will fit really well with Herc and should be less than a full head shorter. For me, that is the perfect size for Menasor.

actually, guess motomaster must be huge cuz 11.5 inches is pretty perfect compared to herc. Guess the little limb dudes had me thrown off. so much for saving money...

by **Rated X** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:11 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Rated X wrote:
IronhidesGhost wrote:Blackbird just came in today, and it made me think about the scale of Uranos Vs. Not-Menasor. I compared a not Bombshell to Falcon. Going to be perfect. Superion should be bigger. Planes vs. Cars... it's going to look great. Anyone else think it's okay that Menasor will be much shorter than Superion?

My issue is why are the stunticon cars half the size of the classics autobots cars ? That is kind of dumb. They should have flat out made them bigger. Ill still be getting them, but Im not thrilled with the downsizing.

I don't know that I'd call this downsizing. This appears to be pretty consistent with other FP releases, especially the Bruticus combiner limbs. If this were TFC releasing such a small one, then I could see these sorts of complaints more. Maybe we're getting a little spoiled by some of these 3rd party companies...

The FP Bruticus limbs (Explorer/Munitioner) had no choice but to be as small as the Hasbro limbs (Brawl/Vortex) This is the first time FP is actually creating a combiner from scratch rather than "enhancing" a Hasbro combiner that sucked. And since FP is making this set to fit in with classics figures (neo and all) they should have stayed consistent with the average size of a classics car alt mode. The robots can vary slightly depending on transformation, but that alt mode size really should have been taken into consideration since these are meant for collectors displays. Just my honest opinion.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:49 pm

Rated X wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Rated X wrote:
IronhidesGhost wrote:Blackbird just came in today, and it made me think about the scale of Uranos Vs. Not-Menasor. I compared a not Bombshell to Falcon. Going to be perfect. Superion should be bigger. Planes vs. Cars... it's going to look great. Anyone else think it's okay that Menasor will be much shorter than Superion?

My issue is why are the stunticon cars half the size of the classics autobots cars ? That is kind of dumb. They should have flat out made them bigger. Ill still be getting them, but Im not thrilled with the downsizing.

I don't know that I'd call this downsizing. This appears to be pretty consistent with other FP releases, especially the Bruticus combiner limbs. If this were TFC releasing such a small one, then I could see these sorts of complaints more. Maybe we're getting a little spoiled by some of these 3rd party companies...

The FP Bruticus limbs (Explorer/Munitioner) had no choice but to be as small as the Hasbro limbs (Brawl/Vortex) This is the first time FP is actually creating a combiner from scratch rather than "enhancing" a Hasbro combiner that sucked. And since FP is making this set to fit in with classics figures (neo and all) they should have stayed consistent with the average size of a classics car alt mode. The robots can vary slightly depending on transformation, but that alt mode size really should have been taken into consideration since these are meant for collectors displays. Just my honest opinion.

I see what you mean, and I do understand the preference for something more in scale with the Deluxe Classics. I guess I would expect the scale here from FP given the scale of most of their other offerings. Granted, they were constrained by the established Bruticus parts. Still, to be consistent with that combiner, I can understand FP's thinking, if it was this thinking, to stay on the smaller side. But, I'm just guessing at the justification.

In reality, I'm just extremely excited to finally be geting any decent Stunticon set.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:57 pm

mbd88prime wrote:
Arctorro wrote:Been comparing the size of my Classics/etc Insecticons, Bumblebee, Wheeljack and Dev (Herc).

Sounds like the Stunticons should be between BB and WJ in height. While they aren't the biggest deluxes out there, they aren't too bad, and the size should help keep prices down.

(took a couple of images, but don't know how/if I can upload em)

If the image of a blacked out Menasor is correct and he will be 11.5 inches tall, then he will fit really well with Herc and should be less than a full head shorter. For me, that is the perfect size for Menasor.

[img]http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/Fansproject-Menasor_1343505474.jpg[img]

actually, guess motomaster must be huge cuz 11.5 inches is pretty perfect compared to herc. Guess the little limb dudes had me thrown off. so much for saving money...

If that measurement is correct then Menasor would be great when compared to Herc. The problem I have since seeing some of the size comparisons with Breakdown is that I just can't see them as the kings of the road as they are portrayed in the cartoon because of how tiny their alt modes are. Also as a car fan, I just can't handle seeing a Lamborghini that small when compared to the Autobot cars

Still waiting to see final images and prices before making a decision though.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:15 pm

Arctorro wrote:If that measurement is correct then Menasor would be great when compared to Herc. The problem I have since seeing some of the size comparisons with Breakdown is that I just can't see them as the kings of the road as they are portrayed in the cartoon because of how tiny their alt modes are. Also as a car fan, I just can't handle seeing a Lamborghini that small when compared to the Autobot cars

Still waiting to see final images and prices before making a decision though.

I know a lot of people want these to be bigger but in reality, they're close to the right size when compared to their counterparts from the G1 show and toy line--they've always been smaller. Think about how out of scale Motormaster was compared with G1 Prime. I just think it's the price we pay for them being gestalt figures. They're a decent sized deluxe and I'm OK with that: I don't want to pay 3P voyager prices for every gestalt limb/set I own.

I like how Fansproject is handling these, I just wish they'd go ahead and show us Motormaster for crying out loud! :BANG_HEAD:

EDIT: updated because of a mis-quote

by **MGrotusque** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm getting tired of reading about this and not seeing any images of MotorMaster or bot shots of Dragstrip and DeadEnd.
Brutal!!

News Credits: 1 · by **mbd88prime** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:02 pm

no kidding bring them ON ALREADY :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:57 pm

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm getting tired of reading about this and not seeing any images of MotorMaster or bot shots of Dragstrip and DeadEnd.
Brutal!!

We did get this image a while back...

daimchoc wrote:

Just waiting on Motormaster and Menasor.

by **MGrotusque** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:08 pm

Excellent. Thank you Arctorro.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 am

monstergrotusque wrote:Excellent. Thank you Arctorro.

You are very welcome

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:44 am

Stunticons make Menasor... MAKE TROUBLE!

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:30 pm

It's taking the piss now with these motormaster/menasor reveals. The amount of times a keep checking this forum is unreal , fansproject just do it already you have us hooked and for those who are not show them why they want to buy your combiner.

by **Rated X** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote::BOOM: It's taking the piss now with these motormaster/menasor reveals. The amount of times a keep checking this forum is unreal , fansproject just do it already you have us hooked and for those who are not show them why they want to buy your combiner.

Yeah, screw that teaser crap and just show us the goods.

by **Swindle01** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:48 pm

seriously wtf is with dead-ends wierd ass feet?

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 am

Maybe Motormaster isn't quite ready, yet? They've put out quite a bit in the past few months. Patience, patience!

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:51 pm

WHOA! Leaked images...

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:56 pm

FUNKIN HELL ABOUT TIME :grin:

, just give is a minute to look at it

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:01 pm

Something told me when the sh!t was hitting the fan over at TFW to run back here to check out the picts! Oh the scandal of a third party leak!

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:15 pm

Whoa. Looks badass but Motormaster is probably going to be expensive. I might have to bail on getting these, especially because I'm not digging Dragstrip and Dead End.

Kinda weird that they went with a very G1 appearance for Motormaster while everyone else is really updated.