Skowl wrote:I rather they make one set with good-looking vehicle modes and good looking bot-modes and a seperate set with an awesome Devastator mode instead of trying to do too much, and ending up with a set of useless, un-transformable, unstable robots.
Fans don't know what's best for them sometimes - they want perfection when they should learn to be grateful for excellence.Autobotic9 wrote:He's a voyager shovel. His shovel splits into two arms, one tread goes behind his head, and the other one he rolls around on. This is a fact. His alt mode is also horribly mistransformed. It should look like this:
Fact, eh? I'd like to believe you - that actually sounds like a cool idea for a bot mode!
EDIT: Wait, further research has revealed that you are actually the guy who got to see one of the ROTF Voyager figures during that Hasbro tour! You did describe it as a Voyager-class shovel-scoop construction vehicle - so you must know what you're talking about!
What a scoop! Both figuratively and literally speaking...
craggy wrote:yawn
He's a voyager shovel. His shovel splits into two arms, one tread goes behind his head, and the other one he rolls around on. This is a fact.
Sledge wrote:craggy wrote:yawn
What a sparkling Wildean retort! You have made me realise the fatal flaw in my argument with your devastating wit and reason!
If I can interrupt the panic about this, I'd like to ask again: has anyone got any actual confirmation on how Devastator will work? So far, I've seen a picture of one mis-transformed construction vehicle that has somehow convinced people that we're either getting a group of vehicles with no individual robot modes, or two sets of vehicles to address the individual and combined robot modes.
Sledge wrote:craggy wrote:yawn
What a sparkling Wildean retort! You have made me realise the fatal flaw in my argument with your devastating wit and reason!
If I can interrupt the panic about this, I'd like to ask again: has anyone got any actual confirmation on how Devastator will work? So far, I've seen a picture of one mis-transformed construction vehicle that has somehow convinced people that we're either getting a group of vehicles with no individual robot modes, or two sets of vehicles to address the individual and combined robot modes.
forgotten wrote:That thing looks awfully familiar, especially the arms/shovel. I just can't quite remember yet.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Chaoslock wrote:forgotten wrote:That thing looks awfully familiar, especially the arms/shovel. I just can't quite remember yet.
Armada Hoist?
http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/Hoist/hoist.htm
starfish wrote:And for people who begin shouting 'Power Rangers', there have been many previous Transformer robots who split into individual vehicles long before Power Rangers came on the scene, from the G1 Duocons to that Double Powermaster (I forget his name) that split into a jet and a tank.
hinomars19 wrote:The point is that Hasbro has to make a toy that looks as close to the Movie counterpart as possible, but still having a working transformation mechanism. As shown on other figures (Jazz, Brawl), this is difficult enough with stand-alone figures. But with combiners? That's a hell of a job.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Delta Supreme wrote:G1 Devastator = miracle of technology???
To transform them into "combination ready" mode:
Hook: Separate, Fold in half, unfurl arm connector
Long Haul: Fold in half
Mixmaster: pull cab out, fold cab up
Bonecrusher: play with bulldozer part, maybe rotate arms down
Scavenger: Move tab on bot-stomach
Scrapper: NOTHING
The head & both hands were snap-on parts, the legs wouldn't even connect unless a snap-on part was used, both arm connectors were prohibitively tiny, and he had no "feet" to speak of.
That's your marvel of technology you seek to recreate?
The "scramble city" style combiners were at least a little better, and, that technology was repeated (though with less separate molds) for... Energon... and look at the "epic fail" those molds met with...
Now, they're supposed to come up with combiners that:
have full articulation in both bot and combined modes
can combine with no extraneous parts, everything needs to be in the bot
have a 100% accurate and free of visible bot-kibble alt-forms
and are movie accurate in all 3 forms???
Something tells me that is an all but impossible task.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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