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Down_Shift wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I am soooo sick and God damned tired of hearing some whiny assed little bitch come on here, every single time the smallest scrap of movie news is released and start screaming about what the fans want.

The fans couldn't even bring in 2 million dollars for this picture. Could somebody explain exactly why the studio should listen to us? Especially when the vast majority want to jump up and down and act like a bitch?

Oh, and for your information, I'm a fan, and I sure as hell didn't want Welker to be Megatron. What about that?

While what you say is a touch harsh, I have to agree. I love Welkers voice acting and I am a fan of the 80s cartoon Megatron. But Movie Megs and 80s Megs are day and night. G1 Megatrons voice wouldn't be the strong and dark sound that one would associate with something that looks like what we've seen as Megatron from the movie.

Also can't argue that the fans simply wouldn't be enough for this movie to be a sucess. Geekmetal, if you and others don't see it, that won't be what makes it plummet to the ground. If it falls, it will fall under it's own weight. I'm looking forward to what Megatron will end up sounding like come movie time. By that I mean I'm eager to hear what Weaving will end up sounding like come final cut.

Also, good to see you around the boards again Xero! We have to go out for a beer before I move to Mississauga.

OFF-TOPIC IH take a pill. ON-TOPIC even if you dont think Welkers megatron had a dark and ominous tone I don't think Weavings is any better. His voice is more arogant then scary. It convey's a sense of elitism, which is why he was perfect elrond. But there's nothing really scary about voice when he gave his little seliloquey in Reloaded the main thing I was thinking is "Damn I wish someone would punch him in the head."

bullshit , the least bay could do to even try to please the fans and pull himself outta the doghouse would be to cast welker as megatron. I mean welker AND cullen? that would make me less aprehensive at this movie.

Down_Shift wrote:

83457W422102 wrote:"Damn Aussies... They come to our country, they steal our jobs..."
I'm just kidding. Sorry about that.

Dude, were Canadian... everyone takes our jobs

First-Aid wrote:Can anyone else post a list of the bots he played?

Blades
Buzzsaw
Chromedome
Frenzy
Galvatron
Groove
Junkions
Laserbeak
Megatron
Mirage
Mixmaster
Pinpointer
Ratbat
Ravage
Rumble
Skywarp
Sludge
Soundwave
Superion
Sweeps
Teletran 2
Trailbreaker
Wheelie

Sorry for the double post, but with a history like this WHY in gods name WASN'T he cast as megatron?

I thought that since Weler is so good at animal voices (Curious George, Santa's Little Helper, Abu) he could do Scorponok. Just a suggestion.

The ironic thing is, recently I've been watching the G1 cartoon on Youtube. I hear Megatron...and he sounds like he needs to get some mucus out of his throat. I guess I'm just too used to David Kaye.

Ironhidensh wrote:

geekmetal wrote:

Professor Smooth wrote:From http://www.darkhorizons.com:

Meanwhile, Hugo Weaving has apparently won the role of voicing Megatron in the upcoming Transformers movie reports The IESB.

Weaving and Frank Welker, who voiced the cartoon version, have been in 'rumoured competition' for the role for a few months and now it seems the Aussie actor won out.

Never fear though cartoon fans, Welker will apparently voice a robot in the film anyhow - but not Megatron.

If true, this is great news! In addition to being a great nod to the fans, adding the most prolific voice actor in the business today to the cast is a great move!

I for one AM NOT HAPPY with this..

F%*K Agent Smith.. FRANK WELKER is the ONLY MEGATRON!

everyone else is just a bad rip off of Frank.. but the powers that be at the studio want STAR POWER in this movie.. they could care less what the fans want.

yea so what if frank is doing some bit part voice.. he always does that.. they got Peter Cullen for prime they NEED to have Frank welker as Megatron..

THANKS A LOT BAY! you freaking A$$CLOWN!

I am soooo sick and God damned tired of hearing some whiny assed little bitch come on here, every single time the smallest scrap of movie news is released and start screaming about what the fans want.

The fans couldn't even bring in 2 million dollars for this picture. Could somebody explain exactly why the studio should listen to us? Especially when the vast majority want to jump up and down and act like a bitch?

Oh, and for your information, I'm a fan, and I sure as hell didn't want Welker to be Megatron. What about that?

And we're sick of you saying we can't have an opinion, be quiet.

geekmetal wrote:I for one AM NOT HAPPY with this..

F%*K Agent Smith.. FRANK WELKER is the ONLY MEGATRON!

everyone else is just a bad rip off of Frank.. but the powers that be at the studio want STAR POWER in this movie.. they could care less what the fans want.

yea so what if frank is doing some bit part voice.. he always does that.. they got Peter Cullen for prime they NEED to have Frank welker as Megatron..

THANKS A LOT BAY! you freaking A$$CLOWN!

Welcome to Seibertron. This place contains stuff. Please don't be a pillock.

bookofjunon wrote:This is both an insult to Frank and to the fans. If I was Frank I would have told them to go pound sand. They pussied out and got a Hollywood bigwig instead of the real talent of Frank.

I am a fan, and I am not insulted.

I doubt very much Weaving will be a rip-off of Welker, and I am a huge Welker fan. I do not see how the selection of Weaving over Welker is, in any way, a personal attack on myself or others. I'm not sure why there is such a fuss over this.

Why can't Megatron be a smoother, more refined, elitist villain, as opposed to the maniacal siege-leading fellow he was in the G1 cartoon? The official movie prequel comics have already suggested to me that Movie Megatron is an arrogant, cold chap. Maybe Weaving will work.

Maybe I would have preferred Welker, but these comments about fans being insulted and about how Welker is the only Megatron and how Weaving will be a rip-off are absurd.

Countless people have played Macbeth, Iago, King Lear, etc. Are they rip-offs? Are they insults to the very first performers who played those parts?

Leonardo wrote:

geekmetal wrote:I for one AM NOT HAPPY with this..

F%*K Agent Smith.. FRANK WELKER is the ONLY MEGATRON!

everyone else is just a bad rip off of Frank.. but the powers that be at the studio want STAR POWER in this movie.. they could care less what the fans want.

yea so what if frank is doing some bit part voice.. he always does that.. they got Peter Cullen for prime they NEED to have Frank welker as Megatron..

THANKS A LOT BAY! you freaking A$$CLOWN!

Welcome to Seibertron. This place contains stuff. Please don't be a pillock.

bookofjunon wrote:This is both an insult to Frank and to the fans. If I was Frank I would have told them to go pound sand. They pussied out and got a Hollywood bigwig instead of the real talent of Frank.

I am a fan, and I am not insulted.

I doubt very much Weaving will be a rip-off of Welker, and I am a huge Welker fan. I do not see how the selection of Weaving over Welker is, in any way, a personal attack on myself or others. I'm not sure why there is such a fuss over this.

Why can't Megatron be a smoother, more refined, elitist villain, as opposed to the maniacal siege-leading fellow he was in the G1 cartoon? The official movie prequel comics have already suggested to me that Movie Megatron is an arrogant, cold chap. Maybe Weaving will work.

Maybe I would have preferred Welker, but these comments about fans being insulted and about how Welker is the only Megatron and how Weaving will be a rip-off are absurd.

Countless people have played Macbeth, Iago, King Lear, etc. Are they rip-offs? Are they insults to the very first performers who played those parts?

There's nothing absurd about it at all, Hugo Weaving is an ok actor, but he's not Megatron. Welker is.

bookofjunon wrote:There's nothing absurd about it at all, Hugo Weaving is an ok actor, but he's not Megatron. Welker is.

What about Kaye?

bookofjunon wrote:
And we're sick of you saying we can't have an opinion, be quiet.

you aren't stating an opinion. You are jumping up and down, throwing a tantrum like a two year old. Oh, and when you say the fans have been insulted, I gotta wonder, when were you voted spokesman for the Transfans? I must have missed that memo.....

This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

Leonardo wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:There's nothing absurd about it at all, Hugo Weaving is an ok actor, but he's not Megatron. Welker is.

What about Kaye?

Kaye is Beast Wars Megatron, Armada Megatron, Energon Megatron, Cybertron Megatron.

But you don't make the movie Prime the G1 voice and not do the same to Megatron. In this case, Welker is mMegatron, not Hugo.

Ironhidensh wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:
And we're sick of you saying we can't have an opinion, be quiet.

you aren't stating an opinion. You are jumping up and down, throwing a tantrum like a two year old. Oh, and when you say the fans have been insulted, I gotta wonder, when were you voted spokesman for the Transfans? I must have missed that memo.....

It was his opinion, and I stated mine very similar a few pages back. What happened is you acted like an ass by jumping on him for it. People are entitled to have an opinion on the subject different from yours, you don't see us bashing you for yours.

Perhaps if you can't agree say that, but don't be an asshole because someone's opinion is different.

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER














































Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER


Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

If that is true, then why is it a bad thing that Weaving will be Megatron instead of Welker?

Predaprince wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER


Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

If that is true, then why is it a bad thing that Weaving will be Megatron instead of Welker?

It may not be, but what's wrong with still wanting Welker? Nothing. He was the first, and in many people's opinions, the best.

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER


Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

If that is true, then why is it a bad thing that Weaving will be Megatron instead of Welker?

It may not be, but what's wrong with still wanting Welker? Nothing. He was the first, and in many people's opinions, the best.

There's nothing wrong at all with wanting Welker. I wanted Welker. I still do.

However, there is something strange about saying that choosing Weaving is an insult to Welker and the fans.

There's also something incongruous about arguing that one person (e.g., Kaye) can be Megatron if it's not G1 Megatron:

bookofjunon wrote:Kaye is Beast Wars Megatron, Armada Megatron, Energon Megatron, Cybertron Megatron.

But you don't make the movie Prime the G1 voice and not do the same to Megatron. In this case, Welker is mMegatron, not Hugo.

then saying that this Megatron should be voiced by the G1 Megatron V.A. when it itself isn't G1 Megatron either.

Leonardo wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER


Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

If that is true, then why is it a bad thing that Weaving will be Megatron instead of Welker?

It may not be, but what's wrong with still wanting Welker? Nothing. He was the first, and in many people's opinions, the best.

There's nothing wrong at all with wanting Welker. I wanted Welker. I still do.

However, there is something strange about saying that choosing Weaving is an insult to Welker and the fans.

There's also something incongruous about arguing that one person (e.g., Kaye) can be Megatron if it's not G1 Megatron:

bookofjunon wrote:Kaye is Beast Wars Megatron, Armada Megatron, Energon Megatron, Cybertron Megatron.

But you don't make the movie Prime the G1 voice and not do the same to Megatron. In this case, Welker is Megatron, not Hugo.

then saying that this Megatron should be voiced by the G1 Megatron V.A. when it itself isn't G1 Megatron either.

Considering it is certainly based off G1, Prime is the same voice as in G1, then it should be Welker. There's nothing wrong with wanting it, and to some of us, it certainly is an insult. And if I was Welker I would certainly take it as an insult as well that some Hollywood bozo got the part over him when Welker has been doing VA'ing for far longer and is clearly the beter choice.

They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

Racthet I thinks...

bookofjunon wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:

Predaprince wrote:This is good news, but more than what some of you are thinking even.

For this film, my guess is they will have Welker be Starscream since he is the main bad guy for the majority of the film given what we know/assume right now. Then, SS dies at the end and Megatron is released (voiced by Weaving).

Now, Welker is in the projects, so if there is a sequel(s) they can have him come back and play the next big bad guy be it Shockwave, Galvatron, or Unicron.

SPOILER


Starscream survives the movie. Megatron does not.

If that is true, then why is it a bad thing that Weaving will be Megatron instead of Welker?

It may not be, but what's wrong with still wanting Welker? Nothing. He was the first, and in many people's opinions, the best.

There's nothing wrong at all with wanting Welker. I wanted Welker. I still do.

However, there is something strange about saying that choosing Weaving is an insult to Welker and the fans.

There's also something incongruous about arguing that one person (e.g., Kaye) can be Megatron if it's not G1 Megatron:

bookofjunon wrote:Kaye is Beast Wars Megatron, Armada Megatron, Energon Megatron, Cybertron Megatron.

But you don't make the movie Prime the G1 voice and not do the same to Megatron. In this case, Welker is Megatron, not Hugo.

then saying that this Megatron should be voiced by the G1 Megatron V.A. when it itself isn't G1 Megatron either.

Considering it is certainly based off G1, Prime is the same voice as in G1, then it should be Welker. There's nothing wrong with wanting it, and to some of us, it certainly is an insult. And if I was Welker I would certainly take it as an insult as well that some Hollywood bozo got the part over him when Welker has been doing VA'ing for far longer and is clearly the beter choice.

They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

I'm inclined to think your second paragraph is true, but there's no way of proving it unless an official comes out and says so.

Seriously, though, just because this is based on G1 doesn't mean Megatron has to be played by Welker. Firstly, it's not actually G1. Secondly, all of the Transformers series to date are based off G1 in one way or another. To take this casting as an insult seems a bit much.

bookofjunon wrote:
They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

I'll agree with you on this. Sadly, that is the nature of hollywood. The movie makers know that a big name will bring in a larger audience than an actual talented voice actor.

Ironhidensh wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:
They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

I'll agree with you on this. Sadly, that is the nature of hollywood. The movie makers know that a big name will bring in a larger audience than an actual talented voice actor.

Look at the wonderful performance and results in Charolettes web. Thats sarcasm if you missed it.

I hope its true, I think Hugo Weaving will do a good job, but Welker deserves something.

Milanion wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:I had a pretty good feeling this would happen. If you compare Welkers voice acting to other on screen actors (in number of films) Welker has most any big star out there today beat by a mile.

Hmmm I'll put my vote down for.... Starscream.

I was thinking Barricade.

I was too, but Blackout sounds promising for Welker's talents what do you think??

Phategod1 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:
They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

I'll agree with you on this. Sadly, that is the nature of hollywood. The movie makers know that a big name will bring in a larger audience than an actual talented voice actor.

Look at the wonderful performance and results in Charolettes web. Thats sarcasm if you missed it.

Are you admitting to watching Charlolettes Web... hahahaha

Down_Shift wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:
They went with Hugo to please the studio and nothing more. The studio wanted big name actors to do the voices. It's killing real voice actor work becuase all these studios are trying to do is attach big name people to movies. VA's are better at what they do than Hollywood big names.

I'll agree with you on this. Sadly, that is the nature of hollywood. The movie makers know that a big name will bring in a larger audience than an actual talented voice actor.

Look at the wonderful performance and results in Charolettes web. Thats sarcasm if you missed it.

Are you admitting to watching Charlolettes Web... hahahaha

Charlotte's Web is a delightful book. I trust the film is rather poor.

Anyway, Welker for Starscream, I say.