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Hasbro's Investor Day presentation was yesterday.
Some things of note:
Slide 20 has TF5 teaser logo (nothing exciting), and some new product called "Alt Modes" - looks like keychains or something but it's a very small image.
Slide 23 has the TF brand revenue (revenue to Hasbro, not retail sales to consumers! HUGE difference!) chart that we've seen in previous years updated to include the 9 months out of this year so far. Pretty good start for them.
Slide 34 talks about expanding footprint into more global markets.
Some new Kre-o product on Slide 37, but it does not look to be Transformers related. Read elsewhere it is a Chinese market exclusive line. May want to check audio.
Slide 38: appears to announce Micronauts return - as a crossover with Transformers. Kind of cool considering Micronauts' roots as Microman.
I enjoyed the financial slides. Interesting bit on 61 about slightly increasing resin costs expected for 2016.
Slide 65 mentions a new e-commerce site. Direct to consumer sales or just B2B? I don't know, may want to check audio.
May want to sit through audio to check Q&A for interesting tidbits.
Poor GI Joe. Also no sign of M.A.S.K. which was on the last (I think last, maybe the one before last) Investor presentation.
Railbomb wrote:I wonder if these new Micronauts will be able to fit in the cockpits of Jetfire/Seekers, Whirl, and HotSpots basket? It would be cool to finally get some little guys that can do that and maybe see some cameo appearances of Spike, Sparkplug, Daniel, Carly and some other characters from the cartoon.
Starsaber468 wrote:Once again Hasbro suprises us with something (I am not sure if the micronauts were ever released in the US) a little new and old. I gotta say I never expected the micronauts to be back, but its awesome, and I surely do like it!
That's top line revenue to Hasbro in that chart, afaik, and has nothing to do with things like profit or sales to consumers. This is showing that the brand as a whole is performing well in getting retailers to buy product of any variety, and you can see in here that the 3/4 of a year thus far has generated almost as much as those two full years where Prime was the focus.Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Emerje wrote:Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Not to kick you while you're down, but most of that probably comes from Robots in Disguise anyway. Now that the brand has become mainstream the movie and cartoon years are the best performers. It's quite the contrast compared to the 2005 and 2006 years when Transformers Energon and Cybertron were on TV. Just think of how flooded the shelves were with figures back then just to get those low numbers.
Emerje
Starsaber468 wrote:Emerje wrote:Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Not to kick you while you're down, but most of that probably comes from Robots in Disguise anyway. Now that the brand has become mainstream the movie and cartoon years are the best performers. It's quite the contrast compared to the 2005 and 2006 years when Transformers Energon and Cybertron were on TV. Just think of how flooded the shelves were with figures back then just to get those low numbers.
Emerje
Well a lot of people did focus on getting combiner wars figures though plus combiner wars did get more figures, so I don't know but I would supsect RID mainly being meant for children would be sold for children, but usually whenever I am at a store getting some figures the RID figures would be full while the Combiner wars section of figures would be empty
ScottyP wrote:That's top line revenue to Hasbro in that chart, afaik, and has nothing to do with things like profit or sales to consumers. This is showing that the brand as a whole is performing well in getting retailers to buy product of any variety, and you can see in here that the 3/4 of a year thus far has generated almost as much as those two full years where Prime was the focus.Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Additionally, I'd hold off on judging how Combiner Wars has done until figures such as this are shown next year. If the line does well for retailers, logic would say that their orders, and thus revenue to Hasbro, will be up come next year.
Emerje wrote:Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Not to kick you while you're down, but most of that probably comes from Robots in Disguise anyway. Now that the brand has become mainstream the movie and cartoon years are the best performers. It's quite the contrast compared to the 2005 and 2006 years when Transformers Energon and Cybertron were on TV. Just think of how flooded the shelves were with figures back then just to get those low numbers.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:Starsaber468 wrote:Emerje wrote:Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Not to kick you while you're down, but most of that probably comes from Robots in Disguise anyway. Now that the brand has become mainstream the movie and cartoon years are the best performers. It's quite the contrast compared to the 2005 and 2006 years when Transformers Energon and Cybertron were on TV. Just think of how flooded the shelves were with figures back then just to get those low numbers.
Emerje
Well a lot of people did focus on getting combiner wars figures though plus combiner wars did get more figures, so I don't know but I would supsect RID mainly being meant for children would be sold for children, but usually whenever I am at a store getting some figures the RID figures would be full while the Combiner wars section of figures would be empty
Children's toy lines always sell better than collectors lines, this is a long proven fact. The reason you're seeing more RID and less CW on shelves is because stores are ordering more RID than CW. It my area both are in short supply, but I find new RID figures long before I find new CW stuff.
As for Micronauts, they've been working on plans for a movie for years now so it's no real surprise that they'd use movie Optimus Prime to promote it. Probably he'll find their planet in his post-Age of Extinction trip through space. Should be interesting if it ever happens, to date Hasbro has yet to do anything with the Micronauts license even though they've had it since 2009.
Emerje
ScottyP wrote:That's top line revenue to Hasbro in that chart, afaik, and has nothing to do with things like profit or sales to consumers. This is showing that the brand as a whole is performing well in getting retailers to buy product of any variety, and you can see in here that the 3/4 of a year thus far has generated almost as much as those two full years where Prime was the focus.Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Additionally, I'd hold off on judging how Combiner Wars has done until figures such as this are shown next year. If the line does well for retailers, logic would say that their orders, and thus revenue to Hasbro, will be up come next year.
BERSEKAEL wrote:I believe "age of extinction" didn't sell better cuz:
1. bad quality toys (poor paint apps, overpriced)
2. No legion class
Starsaber468 wrote:Ok that probably makes sjnce though the RID line where I live kinda is shelf-formers though. Btw isn't this probably I redesigned familiar micronaut cough cough a certain robot one cough cough
Emerje wrote:Starsaber468 wrote:Ok that probably makes sjnce though the RID line where I live kinda is shelf-formers though. Btw isn't this probably I redesigned familiar micronaut cough cough a certain robot one cough cough
I really hope that's not supposed to be Biotron, though I'm more likely to believe it's Phobos. But to be entirely honest the colors make it look more like some sort of Ant-Man robot. Who knows?
Emerje
Emerje wrote:Metroplex79 wrote:I'm kinda sad Combiner Wars isn't making a killing this year.
How can it not be beating Prime?
Not to kick you while you're down, but most of that probably comes from Robots in Disguise anyway. Now that the brand has become mainstream the movie and cartoon years are the best performers. It's quite the contrast compared to the 2005 and 2006 years when Transformers Energon and Cybertron were on TV. Just think of how flooded the shelves were with figures back then just to get those low numbers.
Emerje
Starsaber468 wrote:Ok that probably makes sjnce though the RID line where I live kinda is shelf-formers though. Btw isn't this probably I redesigned familiar micronaut cough cough a certain robot one cough cough
Starsaber468 wrote:BERSEKAEL wrote:I believe "age of extinction" didn't sell better cuz:
1. bad quality toys (poor paint apps, overpriced)
2. No legion class
Thats definitely not why... plus Legion class isn't that improtebt for prime or bayformers... plus its probably because the downfall of popularity with the bayformers though I feel like transformers 5 will give an another boost to the franchise. Plus Bayformers basically keep the franchise going even with hate it we gotta admit it probably without the bayformers we wouldn't be getting great figures even masterpiece figures & third party figures
That sure looks like a strange reboot of Biotron to me. That head with those horns does look like Phobos, but those colors and that chest seem awful Biotrony.Emerje wrote:I really hope that's not supposed to be Biotron, though I'm more likely to believe it's Phobos.
Around 2007 or 8, the short lived Orphanage animation studio (the crew behind Sym-Bionic Titan) did a short stint of development for a Micronauts animated feature, but it was quickly put on the back burner when the owner of the film rights, James Cameron's asking price was a tad too high. It's great that Hasbro has acquired all the pieces to put this all together. I believe they have had the rights to the toys for a long time now. At least since Palisades went belly up.Emerje wrote:As for Micronauts, they've been working on plans for a movie for years now so it's no real surprise that they'd use movie Optimus Prime to promote it. Probably he'll find their planet in his post-Age of Extinction trip through space. Should be interesting if it ever happens, to date Hasbro has yet to do anything with the Micronauts license even though they've had it since 2009.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Interesting sales. Interesting stuff. Funny how the best year over the past 10 was the RotF year.
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Interesting sales. Interesting stuff. Funny how the best year over the past 10 was the RotF year.
Makes sense though, there was a lot of product that year.
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