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News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:14 am

fenrir72 wrote:
SteveGo wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:snip

Did you recently suffer a brain injury?

Who you anyway?

Okay, I'm gonna cut this off right here. SteveGo, if you can't contribute in a positive way, stay out of the conversation. fenrir, if he keeps it up, do not engage him, please. He will be dealt with. We're talking about MP Bee, nothing else in this thread. That goes for everyone. Thank you.

News Credits: 1 · by **SteveGo** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:17 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SteveGo wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:snip

Did you recently suffer a brain injury?

Who you anyway?
Okay, I'm gonna cut this off right here. SteveGo, if you can't contribute in a positive way, stay out of the conversation. fenrir, if he keeps it up, do not engage him, please. He will be dealt with. We're talking about MP Bee, nothing else in this thread. That goes for everyone. Thank you.

Forgive me for finding his post nonsensical. I guess it's par for the course.

I'll keep my thoughts to myself and track this thread for a US releaae.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:23 am

fenrir72 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:I mean, if it the same m0r0ns who greenlighted the gosh d@mn awful gold colored YOTH Laser Primes and slap on them astronomical prices in the hopes more moneybags fans would bite the bait?

Just so you know, its not the same people or even the same business entities. The YOTG toys were done by Hasbro Asia while the TR toys were designed by Hasbro proper (headquartered in the US).

I said if. But in the end, everything/all roads end up at Pawtucket RI

Btw as of today CAD 120= US$ 92.64. Lucky us for snagging the HJP/Asia releases.

Addendum:

Price reference November 2014 first release

6000Y (discount at 5400Y) at present US$57.80 = CAD 74.94

The extra CAD 40 must be for the shipping cost to the North American continent (see, my higher mental functions are being put to good use unlike some others here abouts............)

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:12 am

For4 reference, I was dumb enough to buy MP Bee from BBTS back then. It was 80$US. Plus 15$US of shipping. THEN CUSTOMS HIT FOR 30$CAN.
It was glorious. :HEADHURTS:

A few weeks later, I learned that I could have ordered from a japanese site for HALF that ammoundt, shipped.

So, is TrU getting their MP Bee from BBTS? 8-}

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:17 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:For4 reference, I was dumb enough to buy MP Bee from BBTS back then. It was 80$US. Plus 15$US of shipping. THEN CUSTOMS HIT FOR 30$CAN.
It was glorious.

A few weeks later, I learned that I could have ordered from a japanese site for HALF that ammoundt, shipped.

So, is TrU getting their MP Bee from BBTS?

So a mark up of $30 then shipping for BBTS back then. Ouch.The price I quoted didn't include S/H so it feels like highway robbery

So waiting for an eventual "domestic" release is a double edge sword. You get either a sturdier version like MP-Starscream (Hb anime Starscream) version 1 and cheaper iirc than MP-03 but with stripped down features (TT and Skywarp just used SS face switch gimmick)or thinner plastics like Grimlock or in BB's case, waaaaaaaay more expensive.

The pitfalls of waiting or getting........ :-(

@ Sillyspringer ........you better get those "wished" MPs while available

by **EvilOmar** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:17 am

I really like that Display box.

by **Mr_Autobot411** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:24 pm

O canada, the land where we get ripped off on TFS!!!!

120 please, my takara was effing cheaper...... :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:30 am

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:O canada, the land where we get ripped off on TFS!!!!

120 please, my takara was effing cheaper......

I'm not on the side of defending highway robbery but, if you reference the data I presented, the extra CAD 40 may be to offset the shipping costs? Plus their profit margins.

Also, I also got BB last 2014 just like you. Maybe the moral of the story is to get the Takara releases as the Hbs are no longer that "cheap" anymore.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:51 am

fenrir72 wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:O canada, the land where we get ripped off on TFS!!!!

120 please, my takara was effing cheaper......

I'm not on the side of defending highway robbery but, if you reference the data I presented, the extra CAD 40 may be to offset the shipping costs? Plus their profit margins.

Also, I also got BB last 2014 just like you. Maybe the moral of the story is to get the Takara releases as the Hbs are no longer that "cheap" anymore.

There is no shipping to offset. At least not more than for any other Hasbro toy. This isnt an imported item (unless one considers anything made by a chinese factory an import, but then thats the same as any other hasbro toy).

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:11 am

william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:O canada, the land where we get ripped off on TFS!!!!

120 please, my takara was effing cheaper......

I'm not on the side of defending highway robbery but, if you reference the data I presented, the extra CAD 40 may be to offset the shipping costs? Plus their profit margins.

Also, I also got BB last 2014 just like you. Maybe the moral of the story is to get the Takara releases as the Hbs are no longer that "cheap" anymore.

There is no shipping to offset. At least not more than for any other Hasbro toy. This isnt an imported item (unless one considers anything made by a chinese factory an import, but then thats the same as any other hasbro toy).

Well the cost by JP online shops already factored in the store's profits for MP BB. Then Kanraboat's price quotes for BBTS BB he spent adds that CAD 40. BBTS pays for shipping then other overhead plus profits (maybe that's where the extra CAD 40 went?).

Then the shipping BBTS charged Kanrabat which got him so riled up.

More or less, the price of worldwide shipping is factored in the domestic releases' SRP......that or highway robbery on TRUs part then? 8-}

Bad bad TRU..........caaaachinG! profits :ic$:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:55 am

Oh I see what you mean now, that basically TRU is charging what it would cost to import the guy twice, haha. Yeah, I can see that in their calculations to see how high they can price something. Its like a guy at a local toy show selling figures for their prices on e-bay plus shipping :lol:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:06 pm

william-james88 wrote:Oh I see what you mean now, that basically TRU is charging what it would cost to import the guy twice, haha. Yeah, I can see that in their calculations to see how high they can price something. Its like a guy at a local toy show selling figures for their prices on e-bay plus shipping

I'm not anti capitalist but you can never put one over a corporate slug to squeeze as much from a product as they can. Take the metastasis that was Bayformers Bumblebee :SICK:

etc.That was overkill but maybe, the added cost tacked in to the VW licensing for international sale might also be a factor.

I do hope that the pricing for Hb BB in domestic America would be different than that in Canada but I don't want to hold my hopes up.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:16 pm

Evening folks, you may have recently read that the Hasbro Transformers Masterpiece MP-08 Bumblebee had hit Canadian store shelves. It's true, and now he's in hand and side by side with his predecessor, TakaraTomy's MP-21. The differences are as minimal as they were between Prowl and Bluestreak's Stateside cousins, and about what you'd expect. The Hasbro Bumblebee has the standard serial number stamped on him (albeit much harder to find than the Datsun's) and the red tail lights are a bit dimmer but that's about it. Scroll down and see for yourself, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

by **Ultra Markus** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:40 pm

not much of an overall difference

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:51 pm

The box is smaller than most hasbro releases. They used the same tray as the Takara version.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:11 pm

Virtually identical. It was hard to find that serial number though. Like a freakin Where's Waldo :lol:

Anyways, here's why I needed a second Bee:

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:51 pm

On the Hasbro version is the entire tail light section molded in translucent red plastic rather than the Takara Tomy version using clear plastic with tinted red "lights"? Looks that way on the comparison image where you can see the panel joint on the arm.

Emerje

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:10 pm

Gee, a hundred bucks for another Bumblebee? And how many new variants will choke the market once Movie 5 is out? Sorry Hasbro, but I've already got enough Bumblebees to blow up an entire hive....

by **MGrotusque** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:40 am

130$ Canadian for that boring ass hunk a junk!?!?! You can suck it Hasblo for trying to thieve that much money out of us Canucks for what boils down to a 40$ transformer. What a hustle....

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:04 am

DeathReviews wrote:Gee, a hundred bucks for another Bumblebee? And how many new variants will choke the market once Movie 5 is out? Sorry Hasbro, but I've already got enough Bumblebees to blow up an entire hive....

Probably not that many (if any) variants of this mold considering it's expensive and is also the G1 character. At most, if anything, we'll see a G2 gold version and a version with movieverse's wasp stripes. If anyone's going to get variant-spammed it's Camaro-boy.

Although, maybe they have finally learned their lesson about overpacking Bee. Grimlock was the one I've seen shelfwarming (Especially the stupid worthless jumbo-sized non-transforming brick version).

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:00 am

DeathReviews wrote:Gee, a hundred bucks for another Bumblebee? And how many new variants will choke the market once Movie 5 is out? Sorry Hasbro, but I've already got enough Bumblebees to blow up an entire hive....

Considering how Hasbro doesn't typically do character variants of Masterpiece molds, I'd say this will be the only use of this mold we'll ever see from Hasbro for the foreseeable future.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:19 am

MGrotusque wrote:130$ Canadian for that boring ass hunk a junk!?!?! You can suck it Hasblo for trying to thieve that much money out of us Canucks for what boils down to a 40$ transformer. What a hustle....

Is Takara's official price much cheaper than Hasbro's?

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:28 am

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
MGrotusque wrote:130$ Canadian for that boring ass hunk a junk!?!?! You can suck it Hasblo for trying to thieve that much money out of us Canucks for what boils down to a 40$ transformer. What a hustle....

Is Takara's official price much cheaper than Hasbro's?

Oh yes.
The SRP was $61 USD but it was available at Japanes retail at $46 USD.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

In the US, this bee will cost $64.99 USD BUT for some reason in canada their official price (after conversion) is $92 USD. Which is madness.

News Credits: 2 · by **Bridgemagnet** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:38 am

Here is my video review!
This figure is AWESOME. the price is NOT awesome.

and a bunch of photos I took.
http://bridgemagnettoys.blogspot.ca/201 ... mp-08.html

It comes with a virtually identical faceplate. It doesn't have the battle mask as in the instructions.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:16 am

Emerje wrote:On the Hasbro version is the entire tail light section molded in translucent red plastic rather than the Takara Tomy version using clear plastic with tinted red "lights"? Looks that way on the comparison image where you can see the panel joint on the arm.

Good eye! Yes, you are indeed correct.