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PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

This. A thousand times this.

iv'e been out the loop for a couple of weeks due to being bored but to see a sinnertwin homage and omega make me glad to have come back, happy days.

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

Maybe you shouldn't assume you're aware of everything "kids" like. I've got 2 sons not to mention quite a few nephews and little cousins.

And forgive me if I'm not all that confident in your claims of us being only 10%. We might not be the majority but who's going to deny that we're the backbone.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

Look Hasbro didn't become the biggest toy company in the world just by appealing to children. So regardless of how insignificant some collectors think we are I still have a right to my opinion.

I didn't see any children siting down during that panel discussion so based on your logic why were they there in the first place when the vast 90% of their consumers were somewhere else....?

Were they doing us a favor or is there some significance in attending these conventions?

PrymeStriker wrote:

That Bot wrote:

starwarrior1227 wrote:Crap, the prime figs have been retooled to make them look like they come from DOTM's wreckers team...

Some of us actually like that. I expect kids will eat this right up, which is the goal.

Plaaaansss.

All of the plans!

Seriously though, I can understand the hate for the retools, but I love them, they look great. I'm seriously wondering how these would look in a more...Monster Hunter-y deco.

YoungPrime wrote:And forgive me if I'm not all that confident in your claims of us being only 10%. We might not be the majority but who's going to deny that we're the backbone.

What exactly do you mean by this? The majority forms a backbone of a company's earnings, not the minority. Exact percentages aside, we're not the majority and thus we're not Hasbro's target audience. Although Universe Platinum is a step in the right direction.

Then again, I'm arguing with someone who calls Transformers Prime "Shrekformers" simply because they use CGI, so what do I expect?

YoungPrime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

Maybe you shouldn't assume you're aware of everything "kids" like.

I didn't say I knew everything kids like. But they don't make these toys just for adults. Classics, Masterpiece, Reissues, yeah, more than likely aimed at adult collectors. Why can't you swallow that Transformers are for kids first? There's a reason it says 5+ on the box.

And forgive me if I'm not all that confident in your claims of us being only 10%. We might not be the majority but who's going to deny that we're the backbone.

Yes, most adult fans are adult fans because they liked the show and toylines as a...what? Kid.

Informative.

I'm not gonna deny that Hasbro targets the kids the most with their toy line. And, when it comes down to it, I'm not really mad at them for what they are doing because of just that. I do gripe about what I think sucks on what they are producing,but that's just my little opinion and sometimes I feel like venting about this so I won't get overly mad at my REAL problems or wind up killing a certain boss of mine J/k (maybe).

But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

I won't deny that we may be a majority of the fandom, but they [Hasbro] have said before that we're the minority of their profit.

PrymeStriker wrote:

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

I won't deny that we may be a majority of the fandom, but they [Hasbro] have said before that we're the minority of their profit.

I don't think he's denying that, but I do think that 10% is surely wrong. It's a made up number, at best. The fact that collectors buy so much at retail would increase that number notably if an accurate read could be taken.

RAcast wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

I won't deny that we may be a majority of the fandom, but they [Hasbro] have said before that we're the minority of their profit.

I don't think he's denying that, but I do think that 10% is surely wrong. It's a made up number, at best. The fact that collectors buy so much at retail would increase that number notably if an accurate read could be taken.

Oh, I'm sure that the adult collector is still a minority compared to the vast number of kids here in the U.S. alone, not counting the rest of the world. Plus, I'm sure there were not as many kids between the ages of 6 to 12 during my time as there are now. I mean, the school I went to back in the day was a relatively small building back then. Now the school has moved to a new location and is three large buildings that just house 1st through 8th. Plus back then, we only had one 1st grade class. Now there are at least 3 classes that make up a grade. So, yeah, we are still odd man (and woman) out, but can we get a little more credit than just 10%?

"]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!"


I just noticed this, by the way. If Hasbro goes through with this, then maybe I can get excited for them again!

it'd be very nice to get some of the currently comic-only characters some toys. the non-Pretender Metalhawk, Ambulon (legformers FTW!), psycho Whirl and some of the DJD would be very welcome.

craggy wrote:it'd be very nice to get some of the currently comic-only characters some toys. the non-Pretender Metalhawk, Ambulon (legformers FTW!), psycho Whirl and some of the DJD would be very welcome.

Dude, the DJD would be a killer set!

Also, bring back Skids!

headsortails wrote:"]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!"


I just noticed this, by the way. If Hasbro goes through with this, then maybe I can get excited for them again!

Yeah but how many years will that take?

YoungPrime wrote:

headsortails wrote:"]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!"


I just noticed this, by the way. If Hasbro goes through with this, then maybe I can get excited for them again!

Yeah but how many years will that take?

Darkmount and Skullgrin happened. So did Bludgeon, he was just some creepy guy, and recently he (and his mold) have gotten quite a lot of love.

Mkall wrote:

craggy wrote:it'd be very nice to get some of the currently comic-only characters some toys. the non-Pretender Metalhawk, Ambulon (legformers FTW!), psycho Whirl and some of the DJD would be very welcome.

Dude, the DJD would be a killer set!

Also, bring back Skids!

A Classics Skids is incredible overdue. Oh, and make his gun transform into a miniscooter that fits into his trunk, just for fanwank's sake.

SO the United States will be getting the Platinum toys?

joevill wrote:SO the United States will be getting the Platinum toys?

Yes as exclusives with Amazon and BBTS if I recall correctly.

Seibertron wrote:

joevill wrote:SO the United States will be getting the Platinum toys?

Yes as exclusives with Amazon and BBTS if I recall correctly.

Amazon and BBTS again? Bugger.

if smokescreen is not an exclusive i will loose 200 pounds, shave my head and beard and change my name to sue.

Doubledealer93 wrote:if smokescreen is not an exclusive i will loose 200 pounds, shave my head and beard and change my name to sue.

Which one? Legion class singular Smokescreen, or Legion class blue vehicle Smokescreen?