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News Credits: 101 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:06 am

So far, appart the 700$ Unicron, all HASLAB Transformers blew through all of their tiers with ease.
I don't see the trend ending anytime soon. Unless they're making another 700/1000$ monstrosity.

News Credits: 1646 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:25 am

I finally backed this morning.

And for anyone who was curious on the Iron Factory one, have a couple photos just for comparison

News Credits: 10 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:25 pm

Also for comparison, here's a sample of the extra parts that Liokaiser needs to combine:

News Credits: 462 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:56 pm

I just got an email from Hasbro Pulse saying that Liokaiser has funded.

News Credits: 10 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:16 pm

That's a very sudden spike of backers, but it's also the same day as Omega Prime funded (not my chart).

News Credits: 462 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:06 pm

Omegatron. wrote:That's a very sudden spike of backers,

The spike came from Hasbro adding in the current number of international backers from other sources

Omegatron. wrote:but it's also the same day as Omega Prime funded (not my chart).

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News Credits: 101 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:07 pm

For sure, all the tiers will also be unlocked.

News Credits: 10 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:08 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The spike came from Hasbro adding in the current number of international backers from other sources

That makes sense.

Sabrblade wrote:The image is broken because the text you've put between the IMG tags is not an image file.

Odd, it worked in the preview. Fixed.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:51 pm

I'm not too surprised by it funding quickly, but I don't think it'll break any records once it reaches its goals. Fans have been particularly negative about this one, both the price and the choice of figure, I don't know if we'll see big numbers this time in the end. Definitely going to be depending on hype from Asia.

But I'd love to be wrong, get us a bonus reward. I ordered mine on day one.

Emerje

News Credits: 462 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:10 pm

The negativity is a little ironic considering people were hoping the previous HasLab would be Liokaiser before it was revealed to be Omega Prime.

News Credits: 4880 · Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:14 pm

As predicted yesterday, the US/Canada market alone bringing the Haslab Liokaiser halfway to being funded did indeed mean that the main goal would be achieved when lumping in the international orders. It turns out China alone added an additional 5000 orders, confirming that Liokaiser was going to happen. However, it is yet to be fully funded, since there are still all the extra tiers to unlock. The crazy thing is that orders haven't gone up in Japan yet. As of right now, there are 11380 backers and 18000 are needed for all tiers to unlock.

Main Haslab link: https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/tra ... X1llAGfvwC

Here are some of the international links for those interested:

Korea: https://smartstore.naver.com/hasbrostor ... 1457891225
Mexico: https://www.juguetibicicollectors.com/c ... 5395003569
Singapore: https://ohmyprimus.com/hbtfhllks.html
Australia: https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/toys ... ion-figure
China: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=88 ... 2c1bDExDr8

News Credits: 4 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:31 am

So with a whopping 6291 backers yesterday, Liokaiser has become the most successful Haslab ever at this point in the campaign, and amusingly, it met the minium goal at exactly the same point as Omega Prime did. Unlocking the core figure means more people will pledge with confidence and we'll likely hit the first tier within the week. The higher price tag, more obscure character, and design controversies may scare off some people compared to previous campaigns but we should clear 25k easily.

liokaiser 2-18-25.png

Funnily enough, this would have been a good campaign to do an early brid incentive for, compared to the previous project (the Ghostbusters Ectotron), which didn't meet the early bird and nearly failed until the project team decided to include the early bird item in all orders anyway. But I'm glad they seem to have learned after two failures not to do early birds. Or at least be more selective about them.

haslab 2-18-25.png

Full chart with more data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

News Credits: 2 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:45 am

I wonder how many of these are scalpers from China?

News Credits: 10 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:01 am

You can't scalp a made to order product.

News Credits: 2 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:12 am

Omegatron. wrote:You can't scalp a made to order product.

Sure you can. Piece of cake. Create multiple emails. Order max number per email account. Wait until 6-9 months after release then double the price you paid. Pay $300 USD each, pick up 10 of them. You profit $3k if you get $600. Even if you only get $450 each, you make $1500.

News Credits: 4 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:19 am

First-Aid wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:You can't scalp a made to order product.

Sure you can. Piece of cake. Create multiple emails. Order max number per email account. Wait until 6-9 months after release then double the price you paid. Pay $300 USD each, pick up 10 of them. You profit $3k if you get $600. Even if you only get $450 each, you make $1500.

That's not scalping. If anything that's flooding the market. Scalping is when you buy a product before someone else has the opportunity and resell it at a markup. But this product is made to order so no purchase prevents someone else from getting it.

News Credits: 2 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:23 am

King Kuuga wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:You can't scalp a made to order product.

Sure you can. Piece of cake. Create multiple emails. Order max number per email account. Wait until 6-9 months after release then double the price you paid. Pay $300 USD each, pick up 10 of them. You profit $3k if you get $600. Even if you only get $450 each, you make $1500.

That's not scalping. If anything that's flooding the market. Scalping is when you buy a product before someone else has the opportunity and resell it at a markup. But this product is made to order so no purchase prevents someone else from getting it.

Oh okay. I perceived scalping as different. Thanks!

News Credits: 4 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:30 am

As someone who bought two of every Haslab (other than Unicron,I couldn't afford him at the time) with the intention to resell for Unicron money....
Everyone else had the same idea so right now Victory Sabers and Deathsauruses are going for only marginally above the backing price. It's gonna be a while before they really appreciate in value.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:56 pm

King Kuuga wrote:As someone who bought two of every Haslab (other than Unicron,I couldn't afford him at the time) with the intention to resell for Unicron money....
Everyone else had the same idea so right now Victory Sabers and Deathsauruses are going for only marginally above the backing price. It's gonna be a while before they really appreciate in value.

I do wonder if doing more of these Victory campaigns will do anything to bring up the prices/value of the previous ones? Just thinking of what happened to the prices of Legends Grand Maximus when Black Zarak was released (though maybe not on that scale, that was nuts).

Emerje

News Credits: 11 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:29 pm

I guess I really underestimated demand for this set. I was getting worried it hadn't funded yet but as soon as they added in international orders we were good to go. Hopefully the other tiers are funded soon too.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:35 pm

Great to know it's a sure thing now.

News Credits: 56 · Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:42 pm

Man...time is crazy when looking back. I had to think... I thought I got my OG LioKaisier in the early 2000's, but turns out I got it sometime in 1999!. I paid $300 using a western union wire (definitely risky), but thankfully the transaction worked out. It was MIB, so I could at least take it out and display if I wanted, then put it back in the box. I sold it unfortunately in 2007 as part of a huge lot. But I see now they can easily go for more than $1000. So Paying $300 once again, for a modern update 26 years later doesn't seem so bad. If the timing of obtaining the needed funds works out.

Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:16 pm

This will blow all of the other Haslabs out of the water as expected.

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:13 am

I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

News Credits: 2 · Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:03 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"