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ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No one would have objected to a new Titan Class Unicron being announced instead.

Hehe, oh yes they would if said Titan Unicron was coming before a Titan Scorponok.

Indeed. I definitely would have. I've been patiently waiting for a new Scorponok for a Long Time...

Only got one more year left to wait unless you're one of the fans who wants him at leader or commander class

No, no, no. I don't care what the comics say. Scorponok is a City Bot!

Honestly, I think even if you made a Unicron that was only 18" tall, he'd still have to be like $300 because of the complexity and mass required to actually get him to turn him into a sphere (given that they've mentioned that's where the main difficulty was in designing him), if you can even pack it in a figure that size. A $150 Titan Class Unicron probably wouldn't be able to turn into a full sphere.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Honestly, I think even if you made a Unicron that was only 18" tall,

As in, 2 inches taller than Armada Unicron?

I wonder how much the Neo Unicron would have retailed for though people would have derided that for accuracy to the movie version.

The big question would always be, what to do with the planet kibble, as Unicron didn't benefit from the design Primus got in the Cybertron line which allowed for the kibble to be present.

ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder how much the Neo Unicron would have retailed for though people would have derided that for accuracy to the movie version.

Well considering it was based on BW Neo, and probably would have only been released in Japan, probably whatever the equivalent of $50.00 US was back in 1999.

When Armada Unicron was released four years later in 2003, I'm pretty sure fans knew it was based on the Armada series, and NOT supposed to be the original. I sure made that distinction. Honestly, I had consented even back in 1986 (before I even knew there had been prototypes) that something as big and glorious as the original Unicron could never be made, and back then, that was probably true.

I kind of wish that the Neo Unicron had been made however, and BW Neo's ending would not have been cut short.

I still posted it because there has been a fair mix of those who only think the price is bad, and those who think the price and size are not appropriate.

Honestly, i think this is perfect.

Unicorn needs to be bigger than a Titan. He needed the extra height, it wouldn't feel right for Unicron to finally get a new mold and still be big but shorter than the Titans.

And then he also has a much harder alt mode to assume, and a much harder time because he has to work the 2 mode kibbles, whereas the other titans really don't have to contend with that.

He was going to be expensive and complex, especially with the new articulation and detailing focus. He is what he should have been, I think it's the perfect dimension

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Does anyone know what the latest numbers are?

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Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards) so we can be given adequate time to save up for it. Crowdfunding is just not a good business model for these types of things. As it stands, HasLab are elitist a$$holes for doing it this way.

User897 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards) so we can be given adequate time to save up for it. Crowdfunding is just not a good business model for these types of things. As it stands, HasLab are elitist a$$holes for doing it this way.

Seemed to have worked for the barge but I can see why the month deadline is a sticking point. Personally I want it to succeed as a model like that needs to be released. I can see them losing money if an item like this was made normally.

User897 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards) so we can be given adequate time to save up for it. Crowdfunding is just not a good business model for these types of things. As it stands, HasLab are elitist a$$holes for doing it this way.

Except it is for pre-order on the major sites, and those numbers should count towards the end of the funding. You will pay more, but you will be given far more time to save up for it too.

Honestly, we shouldn't be cheering for this to fail. This is our shot to get something like this. And wanting a funding to fail just shows Hasbro that their faith in us was misplaced

User897 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards)

What are you talking about?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:And wanting a funding to fail just shows Hasbro that their faith in us was misplaced

As opposed to us misplacing our faith in Hasbro for years.

Burn wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:And wanting a funding to fail just shows Hasbro that their faith in us was misplaced

As opposed to us misplacing our faith in Hasbro for years.

I mean, in recent years they have given me strong faith in their ability to deliver better figures and update those that don't mean much to a lot but who still have their fans.

If this fails at the chants of "Fail fail fail" then i would be sorely disappointed to be part of this fandom. There's a difference between not being able to afford it, and chanting a fail chant because you can't afford it so no one else can have it

Don't be ridiculous. It's not about you. The gimmick should not be used and the only way to show Hasbro is failure. To be honest, I haven't been "a part of the fandom" for a long time because of Hasbro's choices and lack of involvement with the distribution of their products that we do actually want. I don't "wish others not to have Unicron." That is just stupid. I want Hasbro to fail at this and try another method.

User897 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards) so we can be given adequate time to save up for it. Crowdfunding is just not a good business model for these types of things. As it stands, HasLab are elitist a$$holes for doing it this way.

Wait a sec, we have 2 lines dedicated to expensive Transformers just for fans who have the dough, along with plenty of licensed statues and even a Unicron lamp that was more expensive than this transforming unicron (and it sold out!), and just NOW the hobby looks elitist? Time to wake up.

User897 wrote:Don't be ridiculous. It's not about you. The gimmick should not be used and the only way to show Hasbro is failure. To be honest, I haven't been "a part of the fandom" for a long time because of Hasbro's choices and lack of involvement with the distribution of their products that we do actually want. I don't "wish others not to have Unicron." That is just stupid. I want Hasbro to fail at this and try another method.

Except there really is no other method. Haslab is the grail shop of sorts, giving us things at scales that are not retail worthy. I would rather have to pay $575 now for Unicron instead of pay say $900 for one guaranteed without a pre-order.

It's your opinion, but in mine, there is no other method. If this fails, there really isn't an alternative that gives us this Unicron. Maybe a $500 online retail option for a unicron of 1/3 the mass and complexity, but that would not satisfy.

And if this fails, this will only show Hasbro that they can't do large retail object. Titans and the $160 will be the top limit. And i don't think they could make nearly as good a unicron at that price point

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I think we all appreciate your single handed attempt to bring down the villainous Hasbro but chanting for it to fail is, well, lame. I hope your negativity campaign fails because if Unicron fails you won’t have ‘done it’ you won’t have brought down the system or whatever it is you’re trying to do. You’ll have just been that negative guy.

And we’re up to 2238 as of today.

User897 wrote:To be honest, I haven't been "a part of the fandom" for a long time because of Hasbro's choices and lack of involvement with the distribution of their products that we do actually want.

It shows you have been gone for a while, because Hasbro is now directly involved with product distribution. You can preorder any figure you actually want from pulse.

william-james88 wrote:

User897 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Care to give a reason or just not a fan of crowdsourcing?

Easy. It needs to be placed on preorder at the usual suspects (except TFSource, those bastards) so we can be given adequate time to save up for it. Crowdfunding is just not a good business model for these types of things. As it stands, HasLab are elitist a$$holes for doing it this way.

Wait a sec, we have 2 lines dedicated to expensive Transformers just for fans who have the dough, along with plenty of licensed statues and even a Unicron lamp that was more expensive than this transforming unicron (and it sold out!), and just NOW the hobby looks elitist? Time to wake up.

Unicron lamp, I totally forgot about that you’re killin’ me right now

william-james88 wrote:

User897 wrote:To be honest, I haven't been "a part of the fandom" for a long time because of Hasbro's choices and lack of involvement with the distribution of their products that we do actually want.

It shows you have been gone for a while, because Hasbro is now directly involved with product distribution. You can preorder any figure you actually want from pulse.

No, you can't.

Once again Will, you fail to think of fans in the rest of the world.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

User897 wrote:To be honest, I haven't been "a part of the fandom" for a long time because of Hasbro's choices and lack of involvement with the distribution of their products that we do actually want.

It shows you have been gone for a while, because Hasbro is now directly involved with product distribution. You can preorder any figure you actually want from pulse.

No, you can't.

Once again Will, you fail to think of fans in the rest of the world.

I'm international too Burn, why do you never consider me as such? Hasbro is more involved now then they ever were, regardless if we benefit from it or not. I do hope they can provide that service in a localised manner to more nations eventually.

Well Hasbro’s a US based company despite partnerships and whatnot. Canada, Australia, yeah that’s I guess technically international for Hasbro right?

I hear people’s frustrations at the limitations of the company but you’re arguing that it’s global but not global enough or to a degree that you find satisfactory is that correct?

In comparison to what other toy company’s efforts? Who has more efficient and accessible global outreach with its products, main line, exclusive, or otherwise?

I’m just trying to find the root of the frustration because I wonder if it could get lost and morph from pragmatism to general pessimism and I don’t want that for a fellow fan.

I sincerely do wish it a positive thing for everyone and hate that it’s not. It’s all perspective though I get that here in the US I don’t have that same stake in the frustration and I’m aware of that.