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News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:52 am

Think since so many fans have different scale preferences and budgets. 3rd parties might make decent money doing this.

Definitely be into buying a KFC Tempest-Cyclonus done in the Leader scale. Would buy a UT Mania King in the MP-10 Leader scale with retooled rotate wrist.

by **Lord Raze** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:00 am

TFC have shown off a scaled down Hercules a few times, no idea whether that is a product they intend to produce or not.

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News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:52 am

Might not work so well as you might think. Certain tolerances are bad enough at the current scale that decreasing their size would make it too fragile for people to enjoy.

It also uses up the one resource third parties struggle with as it is: time.

I would suspect there isn't enough return on investment if there's a divided customer base.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:23 am

Na i wouldnt want to seee neither of those two upscaled just a waste of time Tempest looked terrible and MK is overly detailed . While i'm in the MP camp now , i'm not up for anything to be upscaled i want oringinal figures to compliment the MP line and no chug figure will do that , imo for 3rdp MP to truly fit in they need to be basic in design when it comes to details to match the aesthetics of takara so for me a lot of figures will be getting passed on .

I think XT Megatron and Scourge are the best examples of fitting Takaras MP aesthetic .

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:37 pm

Mkall wrote:Might not work so well as you might think. Certain tolerances are bad enough at the current scale that decreasing their size would make it too fragile for people to enjoy.

I agree and only put the word Decrease for some here who prefer some 3rd party toys to be made in a smaller scale.

Think going upwards and increasing the scale on some 3rd parties toys, Would force them to be stronger than the original smaller scale. As the upscaling might involve newer stronger joints, thicker plastic and possible more articulation.

Mkall wrote: It also uses up the one resource third parties struggle with as it is: time.

The way I calculate it. The art sketches and CAD files are already done and paid for, So that's some time and money saved already. All that's gotta get done is create a new test shot using the original test shot and increasing the parts to a bigger scale. Then create newer injected molds.

Mkall wrote:I would suspect there isn't enough return on investment if there's a divided customer base.

Obviously this is not meant for every 3rd party TF toy. Just a selected few, that sold well and the fan demand is their for a bigger scale. Think, UT Mania King would sell really well if it was upscaled to MP-10 Leader scale with rotate wrist. Think KFC Tempest would sell galaxies better at the Ultra-Leader scale than it's selling at the Deluxe-Voyager toy scale.