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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:01 pm

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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:04 pm

Gauss Carbine?
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby City Commander » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:36 pm

Weapon: Air Rifle
Gauss pistol!

Gauss turret!

Mobile gauss cannon emplacement!

Artillery radio receiver! (call for help-- fire gauss artillery units or whatever).

Semi-automatic gauss rifle!



That's quite enough I think :P
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Actually, I dislike the use of the term Gauss. And Gatling. I'm pretty sure Transformers developed weapons technology without the help of the people those weapons are named for here.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Dr. Caelus » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:23 pm

Jeep! wrote:Actually, I dislike the use of the term Gauss. And Gatling. I'm pretty sure Transformers developed weapons technology without the help of the people those weapons are named for here.


:lol:

Perhaps, but we're translating Cybertronian into English anyway.

Just pretend that we recognize the alien technology as gauss cannons and gatling guns.*

And for the record, I probably won't be adding any new weapons any-time soon. The weapon list is pretty danged long - IIRC I added 80+ weapons in that round - and I don't want to continue indefinately stretching it longer and longer.

What I might do is let some of the weapons sell out, and instead of restocking them, replace them with new weapons with the same stat requirements. Or I could zero-out the stocks on some of the least popular weapons and replace them.

The cap on weapon stores makes that an interesting possibility I think.

Though if I do that I should probably stock everything with 100-500 units each instead of 5-20.

Also, remember that I can't create new weapons per se, only edit the inactive weapons that were never actually implemented. This means I can only potentially add 237 more weapons. That sounds like a lot, actually that is a lot since we have less than 200 right now, but I'd hate to burn through that 237 in a few months and then never be able to make new weapons ever again.

Oh, and before someone asks, once a weapon is added to the active list, I can't just scrap it and use the entry to create a new weapon, as any changes effect the weapons people currently own as well as those in the shop.

*Also, if we're going to gnaw on semantics, a "Gauss Rifle" is a nonsensical weapon. A Gauss weapon wouldn't have rifling! (AFAIK.)
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:32 pm

Well, the coils do mimic the helix rifling of a longer barrel; and rifles are as much classified by their from-the-shoulder design as by their rifling, if I recall rightly.
Though this seems to present yet another reason why we need a HMW Wordy Guy.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Waylander » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:57 pm

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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:04 pm

Jeep! wrote:Well, the coils do mimic the helix rifling of a longer barrel; and rifles are as much classified by their from-the-shoulder design as by their rifling, if I recall rightly.
Though this seems to present yet another reason why we need a HMW Wordy Guy.



are you sure on that? i mean if i recall coilgun design you have a series of rings, and don't really impart rotation upon the slug. I spose you could create a railgun with helical rails

and for all we know Transformers Didn't use Gauss weaponry until they came to earth, given the electrical nature of there physiology the high voltage required would probably produce alot of electrical interfereance, making it something akin to a dirty weapon
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:09 pm

Tammuz wrote:
Jeep! wrote:Well, the coils do mimic the helix rifling of a longer barrel; and rifles are as much classified by their from-the-shoulder design as by their rifling, if I recall rightly.
Though this seems to present yet another reason why we need a HMW Wordy Guy.



are you sure on that? i mean if i recall coilgun design you have a series of rings, and don't really impart rotation upon the slug. I spose you could create a railgun with helical rails

and for all we know Transformers Didn't use Gauss weaponry until they came to earth, given the electrical nature of there physiology the high voltage required would probably produce alot of electrical interfereance, making it something akin to a dirty weapon


It's a series of coils, alternating in direction. One coil goes clockwaise for a bit, then the next one's antieclockwise, and so on. So yeah, spirals.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:14 pm

that's just to create a magnetic pulse! it doesn't rotate the projectile at all, functionally it's nothing like rifling, and they don't have to alternate direction at all, in fact you don't even need multiple coils.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:29 pm

For it to do more than drop out of the end of the coil, you do. Unless I've got the mechanics entirely wrong, the more coils, and the alternating directions, add to the velocity and range of the projectile.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:59 pm

more coils(and by coild i mean solenoids, not turns in a helix) increase the range certainly, but they don't spin the projectile at all in any way, and the direction of the turns of the helix have to be the same direction(if you alternate their direction you alos need to invert the current), if you didn't all you would do would send the projectile back and forth between the first two coils.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby -Soundwave- » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:15 am

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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Archanubis » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:38 am

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Caelus wrote:And for the record, I probably won't be adding any new weapons any-time soon. The weapon list is pretty danged long - IIRC I added 80+ weapons in that round - and I don't want to continue indefinately stretching it longer and longer.

Never hurts to suggest a few more; it's even fun! :grin:
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Malicron » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:53 am

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Caelus wrote:And for the record, I probably won't be adding any new weapons any-time soon. The weapon list is pretty danged long - IIRC I added 80+ weapons in that round - and I don't want to continue indefinately stretching it longer and longer.

Never hurts to suggest a few more; it's even fun! :grin:

Yah! after all, you can just ignore the suggestions, Caelus.
Lord knows OS did. :P
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:07 pm

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Thunderscream wrote:
Caelus wrote:And for the record, I probably won't be adding any new weapons any-time soon. The weapon list is pretty danged long - IIRC I added 80+ weapons in that round - and I don't want to continue indefinately stretching it longer and longer.

Never hurts to suggest a few more; it's even fun! :grin:

Yah! after all, you can just ignore the suggestions, Caelus.
Lord knows OS did. :P



Just don't want anyone to be disappointed or get their feelings hurt if their weaps don't show up anytime soon.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby -Soundwave- » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:23 pm

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Caelus wrote:Just don't want anyone to be disappointed or get their feelings hurt if their weaps don't show up anytime soon.

No worries I just tossed it out. I don't expect to get it, but at least its documented.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Rat Convoy » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:10 pm

Maybe this is slightly off-topic, but why does the Fusion Cannon do Light to Incredible damage? As a 10/10 weapon, shouldn't it do a flat Incredible damage, or at least Devastating to Incredible? Seems badly underpowered for its cost as it is now, unless there's something I'm missing.

Also, any chance there may be a restock on the new weapons anytime soon?
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:38 pm

there is something you're missing,

and yeah cealus will restock when he realises there out...
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Jeep? » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:44 pm

The median damage will be higher than the bracket suggests, and being that it has as high a requirement as a weapon can have, it'll tend towards the higher end of its bracket a lot more than the lower.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Chaoslock » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:50 pm

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Jeep! wrote:It'll tend towards the higher end of its bracket a lot more than the lower.


No, it doesn't. Fusion Cannon is poopy, I tried it, it has too big recharge time that makes it even worse. My Chaos Blades are far more reliable than that.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Tammuz » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:53 pm

that's not entirely right JP;

a weapons stat requirments dictate it's mean damage, the spread is pretty much whatever cealus wanted it to be, with it being equal on either side.


the damage terms are so fecking vague they mean nothing.

the recharges on the other hand have been massively decreased, hopefully enough that they don't make some weapons useless.
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby City Commander » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:18 pm

Weapon: Air Rifle
You should totally get a Laser-Targeted Satellite Cannon instead! 8) :P
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby Lord Gothika » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:08 pm

Weapon: Twin Swords
I know its not a weapon, but this is only place i could think of to ask it, put would it be possible to have shields in armour?
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Re: Help me make New Weapons!

Postby City Commander » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:41 pm

Weapon: Air Rifle
That'd make a pretty interesting weapon too.


Melee weapon, but also used to absorb damage.


Sounds very V2ish. :-?
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